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The Saner TTC-Thunder Moon - Page 19post #361 of 67710/13/13 at 10:20ampost #362 of 67710/13/13 at 12:42pmCongrats WaterMama!!! That is awesome news!!!! :-)
I have been sort of off the grid I guess combination of having family in town last weekend and a very busy Sunday (2 birthday parties back-to-back and DS didn't get a nap either Sat or Sun), and a busy week...plus I have been really bummed about testing and getting BFN's. After all the BD Hubby and I did!!
As of today I am 3 days late. I have been getting ghost lines on my tests. I even went to a walk in clinic doctor last Sunday because I had a UTI and she did two tests right there. She said she saw a faint line. So of course I have tested everyday this week and always getting barely visible faint lines but no BFP. I thought for sure after a few days the line would show up nice and pink...even if faint. All I am getting are these "something is there but not a pink line".
When the doctor saw the very faint line last week I went ahead and upped my progesterone to 400 mg a day instead of 200 (per my OB if I got a positive....which I was just sure I did....but now I am baffled). I either conceived and it was a chemical, or I still have a bub in there that is getting a REALLY slow start, or Im just not pregnant and maybe need to lay off ttc for a while because it is making me bonkers. Lol....
BY THE WAY a friend here who was on the exact cycle and O date as me got pregnant this month, which I'm thrilled for her....but she used OPK's and they BD ONCE!!! One time and she is preggers. I was floored. She has had a rough time though. One miscarriage about a year ago and then had a stillborn at 21 weeks back in June. So she needs some good luck. (She's a little freaked out because EDD is June 20th, the day she had to be induced with stillborn), but maybe this is meant to be. She will deliver a healthy baby this time. FX'd!!
I have one FRER left that I plan to take in the AM and if negative then I will discontinue progesterone and let AF come. It worries me that I may be having back to back chemicals because the same thing happened last cycle. I kept seeing squinters then AF came 3 days late and it was a very heavy, clotty period (sorry TMI). Which is exactly how the cycle was before when I got a positive, got all excited, went to OB and they confirmed, then they called to say beta was low at 12...so I miscarried the following weekend. So of course I'm wondering if something is wrong with my eggs....or if I am just too old to be ttc. (Almost 39).
(Sigh) I am sorry to pity party it up over here....I am grateful for my two children and step children, and I know many women here have tried much longer than I, and haven't had a child....so I can imagine I sound pretty greedy. I just need to relax and be happy with the family that we have. We just wanted DS to have a sibling close to his age so he wouldn't be like an only child once DS goes off to college. DS would be 12...so all of middle and big school for him- he'd be he only one at home. Anyway.....
I also think I am having some depression because I quit nursing. From what I understand it can do a number on your hormones, similar to after having the baby. So I have delayed baby blues...or something similar.
I hope everyone is doing well. So excited for WaterMama and Oxford glad your temps went back up!! I hope that is a great sign for you this month!
Mare- how are you? Is kitty doing better? I saw the pic...how adorable.
Hope everyone is having a great weekend. Take care!post #363 of 67710/13/13 at 12:46pmAnother thing that just had me convinced I was pregnant- I have had the yellow cm (no odor or infection...just yellow which is exactly what I have has with other pregnancies...plus the UTI which I had with DS. 5 days before I tested positive I had a UTI). Something to do with the pressure of the growing uterus pushing down on your bladder makes you more susceptible during pregnancy. And the cm is not from urethra...by the way it is definitely from cervix because I have been checking.
Anyway- that's my frustration. I am happy to hear we have a success though with WaterMama.....awesome news!!!post #364 of 67710/13/13 at 2:09pmWater mama - looks great to me! I agree share the good news while you can xxx
Oxford - your cycle is soo confusing this month! Have you thought of trying some natural therapy in case something is slightly out of whack? Btw I lost track - if you are cd 29 which days so you suspect o?
Wengrin re the baby blues etc.. I can't find the exact article but 'gradas blog' at the purple house website has one somewhere in there - I think it may be 'caused' by low potassium from memory... Anyway it's well worth a read when you have time.
Hugs re the roller coaster! Again a while ago there was a lady on here that always got false positives (something about her Chen make up?) so for her bloods was the only way to test. I know that's probably not you - but there are soo many whacky things that happen in our cycles.post #365 of 67710/13/13 at 3:01pmWatermama - Congratulations to you. Best wishes for a happy and healthy pregnancy.
Wengrin - My heart goes out to you. I hope that you have a clear answer as to what is going on very soon. My wish is that you see a obvious BFP tomorrow morning. I also have older children and a young toddler, so I can easily relate to your desire to give your little one a buddy. Weaning a nursling definitely does bring on hormonal changes, and also the progesterone you are on can make you more emotional, too. Lots of women report depression and mood swings while on progesterone. Progesterone also causes lots of symptoms in women that mimic pregnancy, and that can do havoc on our already tender TTC emotions. I am not on progesterone now, but when I was I switched from taking the progesterone orally to inserting it vaginally. It helped with my mental symptoms (for me that meant moodiness) and it changed up my CM so that I couldn't analyze it. For me that was a good thing because it took away something to obsess over.post #366 of 67710/13/13 at 6:06pm
Aw, Wengrin, I get it. I sometimes want to come here and say how sad I am not to be pregnant, and how I just ache to be, but I don't want to be insensitive to people who have been trying longer. I don't think you should feel guilty at all - if we want another baby that doesn't make us ungrateful for what we have. Saying we shouldn't be sad because other people have it worse is like saying we can't be happy because other people have it better. And the ghost lines must be really hard. Not knowing what to feel or what is going on, I really hope it resolves for you soon. Especially if it turns into a sticky bean <3
How is everyone else doing? Anyone testing soon? BDing away?
AFM - AF is three days late. I thought I ovulated on the 21st of Sept, just because I had a pinching feeling that I thought was ovulation. It would have been a bit early in my cycle, which was Sept 10th-13th. I had a lot of milky, thin CM in the last week of Sept, which I hoped was a sign (but I am guessing wasn't). We BDd every other day from the 21st until the end of Sept. I took tests (as you probably remember) all month long and they were always totally negative, never even the faintest of squinters. The last one was Wednesday (four days ago) and was a BFN. I don't want to get my hopes up that they were wrong, especially if it could indicate there was a problem with low hormones or something. I have one test and I decided to wait until Thursday, and only test then (which would make me a week late.) My breasts have felt a little full lately, but not sore at all. I have had a very high libido, which is not typical PMS for me, but I figure anything goes.
I had an appointment to check on my cervix on Friday and my doctor said there was no blood in the CM, so it didn't seem like AF was immenint. She also said I have some scar tissue on my cervix, which was really sad to hear. I know that most likely it wont affect things at all, but I had such wonderful birth experiences with both my kids that I feel sad about anything that could change that. There is a lot I can do to try and help with it, though. So I need to look on the bright side and take care of myself.
Fritz is just as lively as ever! I think it was a misdiagnosis.post #367 of 67710/13/13 at 10:19pmpost #368 of 67710/15/13 at 8:57ampost #369 of 67710/15/13 at 1:23pmpost #370 of 67710/15/13 at 1:30pm
Cycle buddies - that sounds fun! I kind of had it in my head that I would fall pregnant our second cycle, so we'll see. I'm feeling good at the moment, AF is normal and I can try again this month. I guess I'll be using some suppositories (calendula and one called "healing" with Vits E and A) to help with the scar tissue and cervix healing, so they may impede TTC. We can still try, but I don't know. Dr did say they would be safe if I was pregnant, so no worries there I guess. This TTC journey just might be more extended than I had imagined.
Hoping to hear how everyone else is doingpost #371 of 67710/15/13 at 1:55pmHello!
I'm good thanks Mamablue :-) are you all set up for your next cycle? :-)
Water mama, or should I say new mama!? Congratulations!!!! Great news, I'm delighted for you. Did you tell DH, your mum and your friend? Hope it all went ok. Best wishes to you for a smooth 9 months :-)
Wengrin- congratulations, I think. I was elated when I first read your news. I hope it ha continued to get darker and you are definitely in the club! I have my fingers crossed for you.
Please don't worry about posting about how you yearn for a baby. I am TTC number one and have been trying devotedly for 13 months. When I read some other lady really wants it too, I think, yay someone else understands my journey! I certainly don't feel that you shouldn't feel that way because you have a child or you haven't wen trying as long as me. Feel free to vent and pour out your longing to be pregnant, boy do we all understand here!!
Chuord, primal- how are you doing?
For me, I am pretty sure that CD 29 was my I date, so I am 7dpo (again!!) my temp is nice and high now and pretty stable. This does however mean another extraordinarily long cycle. This one will now be 44 days and last month was 39 days. It's strange because I am normally regular at 29 or 30 days. It could be stress. Do you think a long fp is a concern?
I'm in France at the moment in the champagne region. It's lovely to spend some time away with DH and hopefully de-stress.
Baby dust to you all!post #372 of 67710/15/13 at 2:01pmpost #373 of 67710/16/13 at 9:28am
To everybody! Hope you're all doing well. I am very grateful that I joined this little group.
I have a question: I've noticed that my periods have been very, very short the last few months. After I had Malcolm they got shorter (but much heavier) anyway, so they were only 4-5 days, with two days being super, you better wear black pants heavy and the rest varing degrees of lighter and/or spotting. Not it's more like: Evening one, spotting, Full Day 1, heavy, Day 2, Med, Day 3, light/spotting. Then done. Is this of any concern with TTC?
ETA I did get my IUD out for the last two cycles, that may be the difference.
Edited by mareseatoats - 10/16/13 at 5:00pmpost #374 of 67710/16/13 at 9:45amMare - Sounds like a normal period to me. Well, maybe not normal for you, but normal in general. I say embrace the lighter flow while it lasts.
Chourd - How are things going for you? Is DH still taking his vitamins? I hope so. Are you near O time? or AF time?
Oxford - France sounds awesome. Yay for AF not expected while there. I hate traveling while AF is visiting.
Wengrin - Sending you happy thoughts.
AFM - Pelvic rest officially ended Monday, but we cheated on Saturday. Good thing because I started pre-AF spotting Monday, and it continues through today. AF will be here any day now. I'm guessing tomorrow or Friday. I hope it's not a doozy of an AF - I've read that can sometimes happen post-hysteroscopy. But either way, I'm ready. I filled my prescription for next cycle's meds yesterday, and so I'm just waiting for CD1. Let's do this!!!post #375 of 67710/16/13 at 3:16pmWengrin - any update? How are the tests going? Fx for you!
Water mamma - I'm really hoping you got a chance to share with your mums friend, and that things are going ok with you despite all that's going on.
Oxford - yay on France - oh I wish I were there lol!
Mama blue - you sound on fire ready! You know like in those movies like rockie or karate kid - where there's accelerated training before the big fight lol... That's what you remind me of, all revved up an ready to get pg - it's totally awesome!
My parents are visiting from Tas - so I've forgotten to nag dh re the multi vitamins - here's hoping he's been good! I'm still feeling generally blah, dizziness and nausea at times - not always connected. I'm about 5-6 days from o so should be at it already, but it's really hard - the whole process is getting me down a bit, and I'm feeling a bit (unusually) apathetic and down about it all... Sorry ladies, I'm just feeling a failure at present.
Baby dust to you allpost #376 of 67710/17/13 at 4:49amThank you everyone for the kind words and thoughts. I have been off the grid for the last week...so frustrated because I started spotting Monday, but it was very light and very dark (sorry TMI). So I waited til Wednesday and it was still light....called OB and they had me come in for bloodwork. Negative quantitative results which means no HCG, period.
So going forward I have to force myself not to look for faint lines. If it is there, it is there. If not then I have to roll on to the next month. I do have an appt at the OB Oct. 30th. He is a high risk fertility specialist as well. Not a true RE but the next best thing (that I can afford). He has a great reputation here. So hopefully he can help push my eggs along. :-)
MamaBlue-hope this AF isn't too rough and you can go forward into this next month after your procedure! That is hopeful and exciting.
Oxford are you still vacationing? Hope you had a really great time with hubby!
Mare-I guess periods getting lighter is somewhat normal. I asked my OB about it and he said hormones affect it (so for me taking Prometrium....maybe the IUD has affected yours?) I've heard even the copper IUDs can throw hormones off. Just a guess though. Hope this month goes well for you!
Chuord- Hugs girlfriend....I completely understand. It starts to feel (for me) a little hopeless and extremely frustrating...not fun anymore. As much as I want another baby I almost feel relieved to be having period right now because there is no reason to be analyzing cycle dates. Hope you feel better and can renew your spirit. And when you do, will you let me know how you did it? Lol....
I did place an online order for some OPK's and cheap tests yesterday. We'll see how this works. I have never used OPK's.
Hugs to all and hope you're having a great week! xxpost #377 of 67710/17/13 at 2:27pmpost #378 of 67710/17/13 at 8:12pmHi, everyone.
Water Mama -- Congrats! That's a lovely bfp.
Chuord -- (hugs) I understand entirely. After a year, enough's enough, right? At least it feels that way sometimes. I'm at a point where I guess we're trying, but I'm so emotionally checked out of the process that it almost feels like we're not.
Wengrin -- I'm sorry about the ambiguous tests. I had a pretty good fake out a few months ago myself.
Mamablue -- I'm excited for your next cycle! Really hopeful for you!
Mare -- Your periods sound a lot like my typical ones. It's also possible the hormones from the IUD are still processing out.
Oxford -- Where are you at now?
AFM, I am thinking I'm 4 Dpo. We BD'd on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. My typical timing would have put O on Saturday, but then I had fertile mucous on Sunday, so I'm thinking that's when it was. I forgot to tell him no lube (we don't have any Preseed), though, so that might have hurt our chances somewhat. Regardless, at least by the numbers, we have a strong chance. We'll see. I'd love to say that I won't test until 14 dpo, but I am oh so weak... Hopefully I'll make it to 12. I'm one of those who would actually rather have a negative test than AF show up without warning, so that's fine for me.
My art show is in two days, so that is taking my mind off TTC stuff in a big way. It's a visual art show and stage show. Sexy grownup stuff. I've been producing it for five years, but took a year off when Serenity was a baby, so I'm refreshed and really enjoying my work this time. I'm not an artist myself, but I think they're pretty great, and this gives me a chance to hang out with them and show off their creations.
Work is getting busy, picking up in a big way now that our government is back in business. I'm playing a lot of catch-up with my classes, too. I'm taking anatomy and physiology this semester (I took it before, but I needed one with a lab component), as well as nutrition. I'm staying as focused as I can, but I'm really just plodding through. Can't really bother with getting too worked up about getting perfect grades at this point in my life.
Anyway, time for some sleep before more work/school/art. I have promised myself that I'm taking Sunday off entirely.post #379 of 67710/18/13 at 9:03amPrimal- that art you produce sounds really neat! That would be a very cool distraction. Sounds like you are juggling a lot. Hope you and hubby were successful- even with the lube! :-)
AFM I think I am on my last day of AF, hopefully. I am ready to move forward. We have all the kiddos this weekend (step children visit). My poor little DS (2) had a really bad virus this week with 104 fever. His fever finally came down yesterday fortunately. He is much better today. So far no one else in the house has gotten it (FX'd).
Hope everyone has a great weekend!!
Here is a pic of poor baby DS this week-
Thank goodness he is all better!! :-)post #380 of 67710/18/13 at 12:46pm
Chourd. I'm sorry you were feeling discouraged. I get that way (about other things, too) sometimes and it is such a low, energy-less feeling. I hope you are feeling better and more hopeful now, and that your DH has been good about the multis! I saw a really lovely quote in an article the other day, where someone who was dealing with multiple miscarriages had a friend tell her:
"I hope you won't give up. Someday I want to take a picture of your child underneath the tallest sunflower."
I just thought that was so lovely and hopeful. It always makes me teary.
MamaBlue - Yay for pelvic rest being over!! We cheated on mine, too ;) I hope AF isn't/wasn't too intense. I'm so excited for your BFP! It must feel closer than ever now.
Wengrin - So glad that your sweet DS is feeling better. What a cutie pie he is! We're almost cycle buddies! AF tapered out for me two days ago. It would be so fun to be in the same DDC.
Primal Joy - Art show! That is so cool, it sounds like fun. I know what you mean about testing, although I think I'd rather just have AF show up than look at the negative tests. I'm going to try and be better this month.
AFM - Well, DH was laid off yesterday. So we're giving our 30 days and hoping he finds a job before that, if not we'll be scraping together enough money to limp back up to my mom's house in Oregon. I'm feeling totally shell shocked today. I can't believe we're moving again. Out of state. We don't know if we'll be able to keep all of our chickens and their coop or not. DH is very talented and should have no problem finding a great job (just not sure on the time frame) so I don't think we're going to change our TTC plans, although the stress might act at a temporary BC anyway. AF just ended a few days ago. I'm totally overwhelmed and sad about leaving, although I don't love California I've made a few really good friends, Clementine has made a really good friend, and I honestly just thought we'd be in this house until we bought something. I thought I'd have a home birth here. And it's weird to think about the fact that we probably won't come back - it will just be this thing where we're like, "Remember when we lived in California for a year? That was weird."
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