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post #21 of 249
Good for you mama!!!
post #22 of 249
Wanted to add, I typed my previous post in the middle if the night while awake (not really) and nursing Camden. So all of my typos and grammatical errors are totally the fault of my sleep deprivation.
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What makes me sad is just what is making some women's milk supply lower than other's which is out of our control. I, for example, have breast hypoplasia and it's very unlikely I'll get away without some supplementing. I've really benefitted from meeting experienced moms who've BTDT with the herbs and the drugs and the pumping and who still need to supplement. They've shown me resorting to formula feeding it's not always from a lack of effort or ignorance. Some things are out of our control.

 

But guess what causes hypoplasia? There are many theories, but most revolve around the use of certain agricultural chemicals and BPA which restricted the growth of mammary glands. Breastfeeding may be the most natural thing to do ever, but we don't live in a natural world anymore, and there's nothing we can do about past damage. 

 

 

Anyway, don't feel like your kid is doomed if you do need to supplement with formula for a percentage of his diet. Sometimes, there are real, legitimate reasons women don't produce enough milk, and it's no use feeling bad about it if you did all you could to boost your supply. 

 

The lactation consultant I talked to recently made a joke once that "she can't do math" because she was fed formula, but do you know how many excuses people give for their shortcomings? Besides, she is a super successful business owner, community leader, highly educated and respected nurse and IBCLC, fit and beautiful, and a wonderful person overall. Clearly, being exclusively formula fed didn't ruin her life.

 

Another thing to keep in mind is that supplementing with formula is not the same thing as replacing BF with formula--- your baby is still getting antibodies and bonding hormones and all sorts of good stuff even if your BF needs to be topped off with formula. This same LC mentioned a few studies showing that even a small percentage of diet coming from BF shows improvement in the key areas where formula lags behind. 

post #24 of 249
I never expected to need formula and here I am 5 days pp and doing just that. I have inverted nipples and have to use a nipple shield to get my daughter to latch, and while thankfully she has an excellent latch and has a powerful mouth, unfortunately the shield really prevented her from getting the colostrum she needed. She lost 13% of her body wt in 2 days and was getting dehydrated. Now I'm on a regimen of putting her to the breast for stimulation, supplementing with formula, and pumping to stimulate the nipples to come out. Im not getting anything from the pump yet. We tried feeding formula by syringe but she needed the sucking fixation so we moved on to a bottle with a premie nipple and are following the technique that mimics breast feeding with how you present and hold the bottle so she still has to work for it. The pediatrician and LC both agreed the bottle wasn't too bad for her at this point since I already am using the nipple shield. Hoping that when my milk finally comes in that things will turn around, but I definitely realized that getting my daughter fed and hydrated was the most important thing, even if it wasn't what I first had in mind. The plus side is that my mom is doing all the bottle feelings so we can be clear that I am always offering the breast, and it's been a really special way for her to bond with Noor. I hadn't anticipated that but I think being open and flexible is helping me find hidden benefits where I hadn't expected them.
post #25 of 249
Actiasluna, that sounds really healthy. I think no matter the exact circumstances most first time moms have that mama bear put our foot down moment.

To all the other mamas with nursing difficulties there is so so much unfair stigma about breast feeding that those who cannot for whatever reason exclusively breast feed feel badly...it makes me sick in my heart that on top of struggling so much anyone would feel like a failure. I'm not speaking specifically about any individual here, I guess I'm talking about the tendency in our society to put women in competition with each other instead of empowering each other.
I have all your backs gals. That's what I'm sayin.

As for my little guy, much of our life is spent trying to get air out of places where it should not be... Either burps or gas, poor dear. They both cause a lot of trouble around here.

Floating around Facebook there is a graphic about how big the newborns stomach is at one day, three days, one week, one month. Id post it but I can't get pictures to load up. Meant to illustrate how much milk a baby really needs at one feeding and why they need to nurse so often.
Day 1: cherry 1/2 Tsp
Day 3: walnut 3/4 oz
Day 7: apricot 1.5-2 oz
Day 14: large egg 2-5oz

I imagine those are average sizes for term babies. The graphic was made by babiesfirstlactation.com maybe they are on Facebook?
post #26 of 249
Well said, Wrenmoon smile.gif

We each do what we can and is best for our babies!! If its breast feeding, formula feeding, or bottle feeding breast milk. It's what we do. Congratulations to all of us ❤❤❤ for making the best decisions for our little ones!!
post #27 of 249
Harmonious, what an amazing mama you are for doing exactly what you and your baby need ❤❤❤

Wrenmoon, VERY WELL SAID!!!
post #28 of 249
We started to use cloth diapers today and I think my baby hates them. She would not sleep for more than 30 minutes all day and took forever to get to sleep. SO much soothing! I felt like I was constantly changing diapers. I am using organic cotton and bamboo prefolds with bummis covers. I also tried a flip cover for kicks and giggles. I thought the issue might be that she was feeling wet so I broke out the fleece liners...nope. I also tried happy heineys pockets but also with no success. Basically, we put her in a sposie for the night and she was out. Super easy to put down. It could be that she just had a really fussy day and was exhausted but I cannot help but blame it on the cloth.
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wrenmoon--i'm with you on just spending our day and night getting air out....one way or the other. actually i guess it's been worse in the evening/night. but maybe it just feels like it because that's when i'm tired.

 

hugs mamas--for those having a supply problem, i've always been on the other end with too much milk and too much quick letdown. so i don't have much experience. but with the green poop i'd definitely recommend longer on one breast. with my first we saw a lactation consultant who was free at a local hospital. it was awesome. it was our first outing at a couple of days old and even though i didn't really feel up to going, it was so great to have a resource as a mom trying to figure it all out. i also ended up googling natural breastfeeding or some other such thing and finding a website/video on mom laying baby on chest--mom laying back well supported by pillows and letting the babe find the breast. it was neat to watch, but mostly it was showing how natural it is and it felt encouraging to me after being at the lactation consultation with their "proper way" of nursing. "hold like this, open mouth like this, etc". anyways even though they were completely opposite ways of approaching breastfeeding--they were both helpful to me! :) hope you all feel supported during this big transition--that to me is the most helpful.

post #30 of 249
I think I know why the fussiness yesterday, and it wasn't the cloth diapers...developmental milestone! Today she started with social smiles! 24 days old. Today she is back to "normal" though we are still trying to figure out what that is.
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I can't wait for the smiles. Can't wait.
post #32 of 249
Anyone have insight on reflux? iris seems to vomit half of what she eats (and she clearly eats a lot). Makes me feel like a terrible mother. greensad.gif
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Anyone have insight on reflux? iris seems to vomit half of what she eats (and she clearly eats a lot). Makes me feel like a terrible mother. greensad.gif

If you have a cranio sacral practitioner near you I would get thee to his/her office. Many of the cranial bones get compressed during third trimester and birth, and the vagal nerve specifically ennervates the stomach, many many babies with reflux need a few sessions with a good practioner and it resolves. In fact most nursing/difestive issues can be resolved with cranio sacral work. Big claim I know, but all three of mine have been helped tremendously.
I just had a woman come work on my boy today in fact, because he is biting me when he latches on and is swallowing a lot of air which is related to compression in the nerve around his jaw.

Some practitioners will come to you or offer free or discounted services with newborns. It's very gentle and calming. Usually the babies sleep for hours after a session.

Also I have had to stop nursing and burp my babe a lot in one feeding so the air doesn't push out so much milk when it comes back up, does it seem like she's swallowing a lot of air?
post #34 of 249
Wow, Wrenmoom, you're a wealth of knowledge!!! Gonna check into this.
post #35 of 249
Yes, actuall on the air. We're using a nipple shield because I'm just too inverted, and she def gets air. She also tends to spit up after the 10 min each side+ nursing sessions. But, she's gained 14 oz in the last 10 days, so our doc isn't worried. And she pees and poops LOTS.
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Hi . Tonight i am wondering if breastfeeding is always the answer when my sweet little babe cries. It seems to always be what soothes her, i dont think shes eating too much. Even if shes gassy & farty , she will be often be comforted by the breast, thou i worry a little about that because it is my milk going thru her that causes the poor gas. Do all babies have gas? It makes me think so much about feelings, because i am always wanting to soothe her crying yet at the same time i wonder if somehow she is learning from me not to cry, thou i think she's too little to worry about that &needs all the "spoiling"she can get.. This motherhood thing is so heartbreaking , with all the joy&tears.
post #37 of 249
Breasted babies get gas from swallowing air *most* times not specifically from your milk. There are occasions that baby would get tummy upset from your mill but its typically due to food sensitivities such as milk protein (you having dairy) but I don't think it would be just gas and farting. At least for us it's not just gas, it's reflux, pain, and lots of screaming and crying.
post #38 of 249
Here we are are- I gave my baby a pacifier. Since he needs a bottle every now and then anyways, I wasnt worried about nipple confusion. And he was full term too. Anyways, sometimes he just wants to suck, even though he is not hungry and the paci soothes him. Has helped me out a lot throughout the night smile.gif

Mason started eating every hour! I am exhausted! I started pumping because I need some relieve to get sleep. He is so hungry all the time! my boobs can't keep up and he gets so frustrated and just screams! Then, he falls asleep after eating an ounce. I don't know what to do. We have been giving him formula once or twice a day. also, he is very gassy. He will start crying and screaming, and then he poops or farts and stops crying. i am thinking about getting some tummy gas drops for him.
post #39 of 249
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So baby is adjusting pretty well and I'm getting used to the newborn nursing pattern. Leaky boobs are the newest thing around here which isn't a big deal but it certainly doesn't help make my life easier. My mom has taken DD1 to her house for a visit fairly frequently but doesn't return her until bedtime and those nights are excruciating. Toddler is anxious and misses me, newborn needs to nurse tons and toddler screams of I bring newborn into her room. Ugh. Not pretty. Last night I ended up nursing DD2 down, putting her in her crib then going back to DD1's room to cuddle her back to sleep. By the time I came out, DD2 was full on crying - I felt so bad! Hopefully I didn't scar her wink1.gif. Now only remaining thing is: when does mommy sleep? :-/
post #40 of 249
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Originally Posted by wrenmoon View Post

Actiasluna, that sounds really healthy. I think no matter the exact circumstances most first time moms have that mama bear put our foot down moment.

To all the other mamas with nursing difficulties there is so so much unfair stigma about breast feeding that those who cannot for whatever reason exclusively breast feed feel badly...it makes me sick in my heart that on top of struggling so much anyone would feel like a failure. I'm not speaking specifically about any individual here, I guess I'm talking about the tendency in our society to put women in competition with each other instead of empowering each other.

Wrenmoon , thanks for saying that. Turns out i still dont have enough milk, two weeks later. Started supplementing Griffin with formula; he is a totally different baby. He is alert, sleeping better and we thought we had a colicky baby but no- he was just really hungry. That i dont make enough milk breaks my heart, feeding him formula breaks my heart and the knowledge that he was hungry breaks my heart. sigh. Im in fenugreek, nursing tea, pumping, he is nursing around the clock..still my milk is sparse. At least now he is full. I think one on the reasons my milk is all messed up is because my (emergency c section) incision opened and is infected. I think my body is trying to deal with that instead of making milk. It's so hard not to be mad about how nothing with the birth went the way it was supposed to and now breastfeeding is a gong show. Ugh.

Anyways. At least my babe is gaining weight now and is healthy and amazing. However, it's hard not to dwell on the trauma of his birth. I know with time, it will fade but right now it seems heavy.
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