The early days - Page 2
Amen. Yeast gone wild is such a pain! Also meant to add, I ordered some Motherlove brand nipple cream from Amazon (~$10 for 1 oz) after reading the rave reviews. It has Shea butter and calendula and some other good things and it is so amazing, I've been putting it on every night before I go to bed and it soothes tired, overtaxed nipples. (I also put it on a blister on DS's foot!) There is another brand that got good reviews, too- Earth Mama Angel Baby. I have their postpartum bottom balm (*cough* hemorrhoid cream) and it is fantastic! It's all non-toxic, food grade herbs and such. I was just in so much pain one day about 4 days PP that I ordered everything I could think of to make me feel better (including candy! Ha!) and now I do.
We are having such a crazy night with both babies awake and crying and snacking on pumped/bottled milk for 3 hrs straight. I think we finally got them both to sleep so I am pumping. This is so hard. They say to wake up one when the other is awake so they eat at the same time and it does make sense but really hasn't gone well tonight. Hopefully things smooth out soon.
Ugh. I have mastitis, and since I had a c section the docs are freaking a little. I have been put on strict bedrest for 3 days. Apparently it would be very bad if the breast infection spread to the abdominal wound. I am also terrified that the antibiotics will lead to thrush. My midwife suggest placing cabbage leaves against the breast to help draw out the infection- so I think I am going to try that too. Can't hurt, right?
Sorry you are dealing with mastitis, askew :( I've heard cabbage leaves are very effective actually! Take care...
My DP just went back to work yesterday so I'm learning how to live with a hungry newborn and a curious, energetic 3 1/2 year old. Some parts are easy, some parts are tough. I actually feel really bad that I'm neglecting DD :( My DP is gone before we get up and home after we're in bed so I'm having to do everything on my own. I think DS is going through his first growth spurt as he's nursing every 30-45 minutes during the night. Wow, I'm tired. Is anyone else co-sleeping btw? We have DS in a little nest thing between us in bed but he's starting to not like it and I'm thinking about just having him beside me now. I ditched the "nest" around 4 weeks with DD too and she started sleeping amazingly well. What are you all doing to get as much sleep as possible?
I sleep in the King sized bed with the babies swaddled on their backs next to me. DH and DD sleep in the guest room. I still have to get out of bed to pump but once they start nursing well it will be great. I try to nap but there's so much to do I'm struggling. Today I got up for the day at 4 since they were hungry and I had to pump and I figured I may as well get stuff done. DH went back to bed. He's off another week.
I sleep with DD right next to me- not swaddled or in a co-sleeper or anything. I just nurse her lying down and switch which side she's on throughout the night. We both sleep a lot this way; I don't know if I have what it takes to be a mom who has to get up/ sit in a chair/ go to a crib for night nursing. Co-sleeping is the only way I could survive!
Askew, so sorry about the mastitis! It is so awful and painful; I hope you get some rest. Also, up thread a bit I recommended a mix of tea tree oil and coconut oil as a non-toxic, simple, and effective nipple cream for combatting yeast/thrush. It worked great for me!
Carmen, we're in growth spurt mode, too. Constant nursing for the last 13 or so hours. My nipples are tired! Well, I'm pretty tired too.
askew, When my goats used to get mastitis we would make a strong comfrey tea and spritz or bathe their udders in it. When I told my midwife that (when I was pregnant with DS) she said that would be really soothing for humans too and had me give her the recipe. Sometimes we would add a drop or two of tea tree oil or peppermint. Now I would probably add lavender as well... I hope you get some relief!
Askew, sorry to hear about the mastitis. I hope it resolves soon. If you do have to take antibiotics, take lots of probiotics during (in between antibiotic doses) and after. You can also put some baby-appropriate probiotics on your nipples so your LO gets some too.
skycheat, glad to hear you are feeling better, hope your supply comes back soon. All that cluster feeding is bound to help!
As far as sleeping, I have a bassinet right next to the bed, I start DD out in it each night in a woombie but usually she doesn't last long in there. The best was last night when I put her down on her side and she stayed asleep 1.5 hours. The rest of the night she is usually next to me in the bed. She seems to prefer in between me and DH but we have a king so at least there is pretty good room. Most of the time she seems to end up on her side (she can already roll onto her side from her back or from her tummy!).
If I had a healthy full term singleton I would just sleep with him/her in the crook of my arm. That's what I did with DD and it was great. I'm nervous with my pre-term twins.
We're having another bad night. It's 12:30 a.m. and we haven't gotten to sleep yet. I was trying to limit the boys to drinking what I had pumped and they're too hungry so we're back to supplementing with my sister's milk. DH and I are both stressed out and I don't know why he can't bottle feed actually holding the babies next to him but he has them lying in his lap with his heads at his knees even though I've explained many times not to do that.
Thanks Paula. DH is getting so stressed out about my milk supply and I'm stressed out too but he's just making it worse. And I worked my tail off getting milk to DD but he didn't think it would be a big deal if we had to supplement her (we didn't, well, we got donated milk that time too and she never needed formula) but now he's becoming more attached to our boys and has decided it would be terrible if they need formula and I just can't do anything about it if they do need it in the next couple of weeks so I'm trying not to stress about it. I am just having a hard time with all my exhaustion and life role changes and hormonal changes, pumping, etc and on top of that I have a stressed out emotional husband.
It's very outdated advice to tell moms of preemies that they shouldn't breastfeeding because it tires babies or stresses them (what your LC said about them not "needing to nurse yet") research has shown for a while now that their HRs actually go up when bottle feeding, and that breastfeeding them reduces stress. And these are studies of preemies younger than your boys.
Also, while you may have had past issues with needing to supplement, you may not have the same issues this time. It's much easier to extract milk from a bottle than a breast and the potential exists to over feed them and then they seem to need more than they actually do, which stresses you out because you're "not making enough." It can become kind of a vicious cycle.
I started a post with some abstracts to show you about this, but my phone ate the post. It's very easy to google this if you'd like to speak with your LC about this info. Here is one really good, highly regarded breastfeeding expert to start you off.
LLL is a good organization to contact as well, even just for info. Local Leaders can put you in contact with breastfeeding professionals who are really up to date with newer information, if you'd like to try a different LC. Even of you're not interested in attending meetings, they will still be happy to share resources with you.
I hope this is helpful for you
Thanks Banana, I'm on LLL forums. If it doesn't stress them out it does wear them out and they weren't gaining wt in the NICU until I started limiting the time of their feeding sessions to 10-12 minutes because they would get satisfied sucking and too tired to take the bottle afterward. They might be better with that now but it was an issue earlier. Everyone at the NICU said nursing was exercise for them and they burn a lot of energy with it. We've done pre-post feeding weighing and they are not efficient at all with milk transfer. They've gotten 6 ccs to 16 ccs the times we've weighed them so any way I look at it, they do need most of their nutrition from the bottle. My first day home I triple fed them every single time and it's also really exhausting for me, especially at night to be up for 1.5 hrs every 2.5-3 hrs. I don't know what to do to keep me sane and them fed. I know I might not have the same supply issues this time but I do worry and I worry that there's something wrong with me or my hormones that don't allow me to make enough milk. I might be wrong but it does worry me and I don't want to start supplementing and have it become a bigger and bigger portion of my babies' calories.