TCmoulton, I feel like I'm coming across as really critical of you and I really want to apologize for that. This just comes up so frequently I just had to say something. I understood what you meant, and I really hope you don't think I'm bashing you in any way.
Anyways, I've effectively derailed the conversation here and I apologize. It's not about being PC, it's not about our history as a global people, the fact is there are a large group of women on this very site who may only be two or three generations removed from the senseless slaughter of their entire family tree, and it just doesn't seem right to further an argument with their tragedy. We're all so careful here to respect birth choices, respect sexual orientation, respect disabilities, support each others choices. Let's try to extend that into cultural sensitivity.
I won't add anymore to this thread, I feel bad about killing the thread topic here, but thank you to those who PM'd me with support.