My labor was only 4 hours after water breaking and that seems pretty unremarkable among the tales of daring and car birth!
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~Weekly Chat Thread August 26th-Sep 2nd~ - Page 3post #41 of 628/29/13 at 10:44ampost #42 of 628/29/13 at 11:35am
I feel so stinkin moody. I was so happy about the boys' nursing yesterday and all motivated and then last night tried to tandem them and they both had such painful awful latches I ended up crying and they got almost no milk. Now my big guy did the same thing- won't open up big enough, chomps down on the tip of my nipple and it's horrible plus he gets no milk. Neither of them nursed well this last time ,0 and 4 ccs and I just am crying and want to quit. I know I don't really want to because I want them to have the benefits of breastfeeding and breast milk but I just am so worn out and tired. My mom is really helpful but I'm tired of not having the house to myself and feeling like I have some semblance of control of how things are run. My little guy hasn't gotten above 8 ccs any one feeding today and my big guy has been all over the place from 0 to 30.post #43 of 628/29/13 at 12:49pmSorry edelweiss. It can be a struggle to get a baby breastfeeding well. But even though today has been more difficult for you, you can still be excited about the tandem nursing yesterday. That's awesome! So maybe they won't do it for you today, that's okay. You can focus on feeding them seperately and getting each the best latch they can give you, and maybe tomorrow or the next day you'll get them to tandem again. Baby steps. You're doing an amazing jobpost #44 of 628/29/13 at 1:26pmpost #45 of 628/29/13 at 1:28pmThread Starter
Edelweiss. I understand what you are saying about the help. The help is wonderful, but it is also frustrating for there to be too many cooks in the kitchen, all over, and nothing to be quiet done 'right'. I just redid the fridge after grocery shopping because I am the only one who reads the labels about where the drinks go and it was a mess (yes I label my fridge, I over organize to make up for hating to clean and tidy)
I just had my two week midwife check up and we had a talk about my using Doctor Who when I get the moody baby blues (I just get fed up with big people and need to go curl up alone with baby).post #46 of 628/29/13 at 2:28pmpost #47 of 628/29/13 at 3:25pm
Thanks banana, coffee and leigh. I took a nap and that helped my emotional state, at least. Then I pumped since they were both still asleep and 8 minutes in they started waking up and crying. So I nursed them both solo and they got 12 and 16 and now I'm just pumping myself basically dry. So tired of pumping but at least it doesn't hurt like their nursing.post #48 of 628/29/13 at 3:32pm
Edelweiss, I have no idea how I would nurse 2 at the same time, it sounds really tricky. It sounds like your boys are really making progress, even if there are occasional bad days. The emoticons aren't working right now, but I'm sending you lots of hugs!
Glad you got a nap and hurray on the 12 and 16!post #49 of 628/29/13 at 4:08pmpost #50 of 628/29/13 at 6:26pm
Thanks Susan. I feel really obligated to keep working with bf-ing because I worked so hard with DD (LLL published our story of our first year). Plus they're premature so I know they need the immune protection and I know nursing is such a great relationship builder when it's going right. Today I was crying because it hurt so much and wishing that people were birds or something and not mammals because it is just so tough! But if they get the hang of it it will be easier than formula feeding. I'm already tired of washing bottles and it's also so expensive and we're on a really tight budget so I can stay home 6 days/week. I don't know how twin moms do it either. We're strictly in survival mode even with an extra adult to help. My mom is leaving tomorrow evening and my in-laws are here next week and I am sort of nervous about it because they won't be as helpful and no idea what my FIL will do the whole time.post #51 of 628/30/13 at 7:29ampost #52 of 628/30/13 at 8:54ampost #53 of 628/30/13 at 12:11pmHave her do what helps You the most. Physically and emotionally. There are two of those little dudes! You're going to have to eat, shower, nap, use the bathroom, etc. There will be plenty of time for her and FIL to hold babies, if you feel more comfortable doing the feeding.
As for diaper changes, I might ask her to bring you a diaper and a wipe and change a diaper while she is standing right there. That way you can explain while you're doing it, it will probably be more comfortable for you both, and more effective. You can decide if she seems able to handle the diaper changes after that.
While we are on the subject of intact newborn care...I dont have much experience with changing little boy diapers, period. But after looking at his little boy parts while changing him, I'm just not sure how you could possibly think that it needs anything more than wiping off. I'm talking intuitively here.
Does the care of circumcised boys vary that greatly?post #54 of 628/30/13 at 12:29pmQuote:Originally Posted by Banana731
Have her do what helps You the most. Physically and emotionally. There are two of those little dudes! You're going to have to eat, shower, nap, use the bathroom, etc. There will be plenty of time for her and FIL to hold babies, if you feel more comfortable doing the feeding.
yes, this! No entertaining!post #55 of 628/30/13 at 3:06pm
I don't think there's anything complex about their diapers but I know some people think they must forcibly retract each change. But we use cloth prefolds with snappis and even my mom who cloth diapered 30-some years ago needed a little coaching on her first couple of changes since she didn't have snappis back in the day.so I doubt it would be offensive to show her how we CD.
I need to sit down with DH and figure out what they're going to help with, fortunately he's off Monday for Labor Day and is working from home Wed. so he can take some time off to go to my OB 6 week check so I won't be alone with them a ton. I think just having two adults around who I'm not really comfortable walking around with just a nursing tank on makes it hard because I'm totally fine with DH or my mom helping me position a baby on breast or pulling a breast out and letting them weigh the baby and hand him to me but I would def not do that in front of FIL and I don't know how MIL would handle that, either (she BF-ed her kids 5 weeks and 12 weeks, just for maternity leave, which I don't know if it makes her less comfortable around nursing but she has always seemed pretty shy when I'd nurse DD and I'd always turn my back to avoid any awkwardness for her).post #56 of 628/31/13 at 7:24ampost #57 of 628/31/13 at 8:22amThread Starter
Edelweiss: I usually do a reminder of how cloth diapers work for the grandparents when they visit, just to refresh their minds. This visit my MIL forgot to snap up the fitted and everyone needs to remember to check the legs and waist of the covers for diaper that is sticking out.
Husband and I tried to go for a date yesterday. We took C to his office to show her off, then walked to the Art Institute to see the fashion and impressionism exhibit I really wanted to see. But it was too much and I ended up really bleeding. So it was fun if finding a place for me to sit down for a while, and getting me fed. I saw perhaps 20% of the exhibit, mostly from where I could sit down. He got me on the train back home and then had to go to work for a bit. I did feel much better once I was home in bed and the bleeding has totally stopped.post #58 of 628/31/13 at 9:20am
banana - ugh about the power. I hope it's up soon!
Leigh - sorry about the bleeding. I hope you get some rest today.
Talk about cloth diapers - I forgot to put a cover on one of them last night and when I picked him up out of his bouncy seat the whole seat was soaked. He had fallen asleep but of course I woke him up changing him and felt like such an idiot.post #59 of 628/31/13 at 11:32ampost #60 of 628/31/13 at 2:50pm
Regarding in-laws and bf/cd/intact penis care:
Just give them the rules. I told my mother to clean the penis as if it were a finger. No pulling, pushing etc. Just wipe. You can even have her skip wiping when the boys pee only. Give a short tutorial on diapering with snappis I(they are easy!) then...if you are planning to use a bottle, let her do it if you want to, take a shower!!! otherwise, nurse as you normally do. If someone is uncomfortable, there are other rooms in your house (and ones that I imagine need some cleaning!) This situation could cause you to nurse a little less frequently, or a little less time each feeding, and that will effect (or is it affect? damn.) your supply. Get ok with lactating breasts, if you come to the house of a newborn bf twin mama. That's it. You are doing so, so great. Don't let this slow you down. You are on a freaking roll, sister.
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