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RM, lots of love to you and to your family.
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RM, :Hug

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Originally Posted by sparkletruck View Post

JG - those are symptoms. In any case, you're already doing paleo, an antifungal could just be added in, see what, if anything, happens after a few weeks. Just curious, do you get bloated or have any other g.i. symptoms when you eat carbs/sugar?

Sparkle - bloating, yes, definitely. And I'm pretty sure the room-clearing gas is also a symptom bag.gif. I looked online last night and I do actually have quite a few symptoms. What kind of anti-fungal did you use? Do I need a prescription? And how do you make sure you're not wiping out the "good" bacteria with the "bad"? My Paleo eating has been not so Paleo recently and I can definitely tell a difference. The rash on my knees and elbows, the itchy, bubbly skin between my fingers are all back in full swing. But still, I cant.stop.the.sugar!

Happy Labor Day to everyone! We're cleaning all morning and going to our favorite pool one more time this afternoon smile.gif.
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JG - pm-ing you ....
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rm~:HugThinking of you and your family. My dad was diagnosed with an AAA earlier this summer. 


gaye~Talk for hours?!? Love it! Makes me nostalgic for my teen years. :happyt


sugar~:goodvibes to those of you trying to give it up. I'm not much of a sugar person myself, but try to take my salty indulgences from me and I might knife you.


nrr~DD1 (age 10) just had her first period. I figured it was coming--she's 5'2'' and has bigger boobs than some of my friends. I'm actually kind of glad it's here. I didn't realize how nervous I was about it's obviously pending arrival until it actually came. I just didnt' know how I/we would handle it. I'm not really a red tent type and wasn't feeling the crunchier take on the whole thing. I took her lead, super secretive and shy at first, now we joke about it a short three days later, and it's been surprisingly no big deal. (Okay, I did give her a special book, a cute container that includes a variety of pads, and some fun new underwear.) I also introduced her to period-tracking apps. Are girls regular when they first begin?


rr~Slogging through my half-mary training. I think it's week 6 now. Of course, there's no actual half mary on the horizon. Guess I should do something about that.


ETA: Oh yeah, totallynotes2.gif on the laser hair removal stuff.

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Towsonmama--probably depends on the girl, but I wasn't regular then, unless a couple of weeks on one end or the other still falls under the definition of regular.
Originally Posted by Geofizz View Post

"Wait until your father gets home" is a good way to perpetuate the problem.

But wait--what if her father is the guy who teaches statistics to nurses (and previously to psych PhD)? lol.gif Actually, it's not an issue now and sometimes it's better if I work with her because I let her tell me how she's figuring it out and we talk through how she wants to represent the problem, whereas sometimes DH tries to tell her to do it his way and that ends badly. I'm hoping the fact that he's the one who teaches math will make him the obvious choice later--not because he's a man but because this is his area of expertise and we do spend a fair amount of time talking about areas in which we excel, either naturally or because we've studied and practiced them for years. We try to frame it along the lines of both being pretty good at all of the areas, but DH knows more about some things and I know more about others. DH is pretty committed avoiding the girls and math issue, so that will help a lot too.
Originally Posted by sparkletruck View Post

Those who have done IRB involved studies: did it cost you $ for IRB review, and if so, did your program/dept. pay for it? I'm looking at the IRB app. and I see $2000 in fees bigeyes.gif
sparkle--DH has never had to pay for an IRB app, not when he was in grad school, not when he was a postdoc, and not now. That's extremely unusual.

lofty--I'm not sure this comment every made it from my sticky note to a reply, so my apologies if this is a repeat about your son's piano video: very nice! He did a really nice job of bringing out the melody with his right hand and not letting the left hand over power it. I also noticed that he a really great hand position--curved fingers, flexible wrists (not necessarily what he's looking for in terms of comments but good technique that will take him a long way).

tjsmama--no worries! I'm just reminding you that if you do want a partner, I'm here. smile.gif

Nic--hope you're feeling better about school this week. I don't mind the behaviorist approach so long as it's focused on positive feedback rather than punishment-oriented. Then again, if I do a good job I like to hear "good job" or "did you knit that? Wow, nice job" even now. I'm not sure if that means I was too shaped by my schooling, or just that it's human nature to want good work or hard work to be recognized. My guess is the latter, and if so, that means your teaching style is awesome. In any case, I hope the doubts can fade into the background this week.

Plady--hope they are able to get an extra teacher.

sparkle--I'd imagine school choices are influenced by the area they're in, but Douglas County--one of the wealthiest counties in the entire nation, has no shortage of charter and option schools and now is still battling to have vouches for their private schools too. Mind you, the "Dougco" system is not challenged--very little poverty and posting some of the highest test scores in the state (rivaled by the also wealthy Cherry Creek and the mixed bag that my district is of wealthy areas and very, very poor ones).

All the school talk also reminds me of a quip I heard on a podcast: "Well, we have school choice here which of course means that no one is ever completely happy with their choice." It is very easy to fall into a "grass is greener" state of mind, when the reality is that very few systems are perfect in every way.

RM--I am so very, very sorry about your FIL.
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RM, adding my love to what I hope is being piled on your family both those near and dear to you. :Hug


Math: on this other forum I visit, a HSing mom is taking this course right now. As she put it, "because math tends to be taught as a collection of routines and operations," rather than a language or way of decoding information, she wants to improve as her kids progress. It's a Stanford MOOC, started two days ago. I honestly don't have time myself right now, but if we keep HSing, I very well might find myself doing a course like this together with ds in the near future. Might anyway.


RR: :( Please take my half off the list. I have not been able to get out. As soon as I got well, dd got sick. Now we are thick in the transition of starting school, and we decided to hang on to our travel plans, so we are leaving at the end of the month. Add the DC trip this week and I am toast. Not happening. My spare time between teaching and wrangling the learners here has to be spent sorting/packing/purging and spending what's left with family, some of whom I have hardly seen this summer, it seems. I hope to put about 25 miles or more on while in DC, so there is that, but realistically, I don't see being able to train for 13.1 in a week. Still may walk it.


Dd has today and tomorrow to get better. I am sure she will be, but meantime it's all about tea and elderberry syrup.


Other recent preoccupations have included travel pillows, melatonin, and I think I mentioned packing cubes before. Also leggings and probiotics. We are actually looking forward to getting back to AUH and I am talking the kids through this reverse-culture-shock experience, and considering a plan for next summer that may involve a lot less USA, as in 3-4 weeks. :meditate We're becoming third culture. Not sure how I feel about it.

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RM - My deepest condolences.  Peace and love and healing to you and yours. 


Math - Math really didn't click for me until I failed Algebra my freshman year of high school.  Now, I was very sick that semester, and they let me drop it (as well as several other courses) so it never appeared on my transcript.  I made it up in summer school, and it just clicked.  I don't know why.  My junior year of high school, I took another algebra class, along with physics.  For most of the 1st quarter, the two classes really parallelled each other with math concepts and from there, I got it.  I never went higher in math, though.  I'm not sure why.  I kind of wish I had.  I understood it, and enjoyed the process of figuring out an intense problem.  It gave me that satisfaction that doing a hard sudoku gives me now (but more so).  I always try to see math through Katie's eyes (discalculia), and trying to understand if the reason she doesn't get it is because of a learning disability or just a fundamental failure to teach numeracy.  I don't have the answer to it. Math is much more fraught here than just trying to understand math facts. 


RR: After not feeling well most of the weekend, we finally got out yesterday for our long run.  10 miles in the books.  Emily was flagging between miles 6-7, when I gave her a salt tab (we were doing Nuun and shot blocks).  Half a mile later, she had perked up and was running 2 minutes faster per mile!  Making a mental note of that!  Then, I took Katie out for a walk around the forest preserve to collect leaves for a science project she has going on.  That was good for another 2ish miles.  Later in the evening, I had promised another friend that I would take her on a run (only 2 miles, and very slow, even for me).  Between the getting there and home, it was another 3.5 miles.  So, all told, I went around 15.5-16 miles yesterday (or a mile more, if we go by DH's Map My Run count)!  So, that leaves me wondering.  At what point do I just call this marathon training and just start tacking on more miles to the long run days?  Things to think about!

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RM, You and your family are in my thoughts. May you all feel supported in the coming days and weeks. Your fil's strengths will surely be missed by many.

RR: Not happening lately.
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Bec, your run cracks me up. I think your math experience speaks volumes regarding: readiness of student (and not simply previous math work) Kids are ready at so many different stages and sometimes waiting for that stage can mean certain success.

RM: hug.gif I'm so sorry.

Jooj, your plate is really full! I've been following comments re: Coursera and Moocs/Stanford/Edx for some time now with much interest. Glad to see you reference it again. I may find something in there for ds's algebra...

RM, I'll pass along your comments to ds2. He'll love that, coming from you. He is absolutely crazy about piano and plays it 3, 4, 5, 6 times a day for lengthy periods of time. Not sure if it's an inherent thing or if it's because I finally stopped making him take violin and cello lessons. He hated them with a passion and is crazy about piano. He plays every piano we come across in any setting: church, homes, schools, stores, etc. He's composed 2 songs so far and is working on more. Re: School choice "No one is ever completely happy with their choice" applies to us all.

Towson, nice job sticking to your training! How's school going so far?

RR: Did anyone see this link I posted on the last thread: The 10-minute Workout, Times Three? Might be interesting to some...
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Thinking of you today, Lisa.



Originally Posted by loftmama View Post

Bec, your run cracks me up. I think your math experience speaks volumes regarding: readiness of student (and not simply previous math work) Kids are ready at so many different stages and sometimes waiting for that stage can mean certain success.


Not just readiness, but algebra taught well can represent in a huge shift in what math is.  Actually, I think of algebra as the start of learning math.  Before that, it's arithmetic.  People can struggle with the numbers part of arithmetic, but be able to really grasp the logic of math through algebra.  I find calculus actually quite easy because it was taught to me through a series of pictures.  When I work through a problem, I can see the curves move and change in space. There is a distinct cognitive shift in this, and it's a mid-adolescence shift for most people.  Pushing algebra down in the grades is problematic for many.  I'm seeing it in my college students who have a poor working ability with algebra.  I'm almost wondering if the common core watering down of round 1 of algebra (in 8th grade) is almost a good thing for most kids.


Swam a very slow mile yesterday.  A friend was walking in the lane, and I did breaststroke or backstroke alongside her as we talked. 


Still no T/Th sitter.  I'm about to fork over money to post an ad on a nanny site.  Grr.

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My life certainly fits 10 min workouts at the moment. I'm trying to keep calm about back to school week and having been a student during the big prep week of the year and feeling like I'm struggling to catch up. I switched clinical groups to accommodate another instructor. This benefits me with a shorter commute, but I'm now teaching at a facility that I've never worked at before and am trying to figure out how to get an orientation day for myself before I start wi the students. Aaaaaand- I'm supposed to take them for a tour on Thursday, but I don't know where anything is. I have an email in to e manager asking her to give us all a tour and set an orientation day for me.

My math understanding is more conceptual than formulaic. I really struggle teaching adults "med math" because our curriculum uses a formula-based approach. I can reason out the formula and show multiple approaches to solving a problem, but often end up with several very upset students who want to "just learn the formula to pass the med math test". I rarely teach this component other than the re-inforcement in clinical settings, but lack of numeracy scares me from a safety standpoint (I work in a very small hospital, and pharmacy doesn't pre-draw, pre-package or otherwise do the math for nurses).

Off to do run to preschool and then go sort out paperwork at the college.
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Lofty, have you checked out content on Annenberg Learner?

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Originally Posted by MelW View Post

I really struggle teaching adults "med math" because our curriculum uses a formula-based approach. I can reason out the formula and show multiple approaches to solving a problem, but often end up with several very upset students who want to "just learn the formula to pass the med math test".
DH has had this trouble with so many students, both when he was teaching the PsyD students and now with graduate nursing students. He wants them to focus on the concepts, but often there's so much math anxiety that he has to work through that with them before they can move on to thinking about it conceptually rather than just in terms of memorizing formulas.

I don't feel like I ever had bad instruction in math, though I'm not sure much of it was all that great either. My general memory of algebra and beyond was only half paying attention in class. Or in geometry, not paying attention at all because she put the homework on the board and I'd just do it during class, paying attention enough that I could give an answer if she called on me. There was one unit of advanced algebra where I paid lots of attention--and it was the only unit where I've failed the test. (I never did understand radicals, not even later when studying for the GRE with friends.) But then she changed the seating and I sat near the back and resumed my usual pattern of only half paying attention and did fine. DH thinks I process math differently than most people, and that may be true. There are also many memories of knowing the answer to the question, but struggling to explain how I got there because it wasn't something I could easily express in an equation. Unfortunately, I've forgotten most of it, since math exists for purposes of paying bills, and sewing/knitting/gardening/cooking applications, all of which I can do without algebra. (Could they be done with algebra? Sure, but my own systems work better for me.)

NRR: just got off the phone with my sister in the middle of a fight. Ugh. She's worried about her nearly-one-year-old. He has some issues, like low muscle tone and is now receiving therapy. They're doing therapy for speech too, though any issues are borderline at best (though I agree that it's better to be proactive, for sure). Anyhow, what I see is a kid who has a few physical challenges ahead but other than that seems really bright and attentive and will do well. He's the one who was 10 weeks early, so his adjusted age is more like 10 months right now. He's started signing, which is awesome. But my sister sees a kid who has a 40 percent change of a low IQ and visions of him in a wheelchair and all...I'm not sure why. She's generally a pessimist, but I'm guessing there's some PTSD still there too, or PPD or both. Anyhow, it got ugly and brought out our mama bears 'cause she dragged my oldest into it for no reason whatsoever and just ugh. I really wish we could fast-forward time a bit so she can see that he really will be fine.
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Real-sorry about the argument with sis. greensad.gif

Thank you for the support, I'm VERY grateful.

RR: ran with ds1 (13yo) biking as I thought it would be a good diversion for him. He is really mourning the loss of his Papa. He told me on the run that he googled "how to cope with the loss of a loved one" and read about the stages of grief. greensad.gif poor kid.

NRR: none of the family wants to be there when FIL passes, well MIL is undecided but doesn't think she does. While I understand this, I am the person that wants to be there with him. Even though the doctors consider him brain dead, I don't want him to pass with strangers.

I'm trying to keep life normal, but inside I'm anxious.
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Peace to your family, Lisa.

Real~ how do you plan how many plants in a given space, or scale up or down a knitting pattern? That's basically algebra. I hope you can help your sister see the optimistic side of things. A good friend's son was 15 weeks early, and her mantra, as given to her by a nicu nurse, is "therapy works.". It's so hard to not focus on the negative, though. Our first speech report on DS told us that he "might" someday develop normal speech. Googling, I found that his diagnosis came with a 50% chance of not being functionally literate by the end of high school. Somewhere in my gut I knew we were in the other half,but the black and white worse-case prognosis is hard to forget.

Ahhh, fall weather hit all at once today. I hope it sticks around for a while.
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So much to comment on.


((Lisa)) while I didn't love it, it did give me great peace to be there when we stopped life support for my dad. My siblings were there too -- I think that it made it somehow easier to grieve.



Geo: on the T/Th nanny. Do you have friends in the school of education?  Can they post on a listserve? Send me the listing, I'll forward to my friend/prof at CCAD. And also I ran an ad on a paid site, but got ZERO responses. Ran the ad at the local university's job posting and got about 20 in about 4 days.


Jo and Lofty: the kind of stuff you guys are talking about WRT MOOCs is exactly what I see them for. The get ahead, no need for college credit cost, etc. is the kind of thing that just really gets me going (in the wrong way).



MATH:  the tough part to me about the whole way we do math in this country is that although there's a linear progression in skills, we don't really learn as humans in a linear fashion. And fluidity in learning is part of my soapbox.gif on why MOOC doesn't help college freshmen. Also IME many many many math instructors are just not cut out for teaching people who really like (a). descriptive language and (b). are not black/white people.




Choice: No one is ever completely happy with their choice. Yes. Yes. YES!



Running related: none. nada. zilch.  First day teaching. I wish we could forward three weeks and I would feel better! I'm getting the schedule down and hanging with the girls. They start school on Thursday. They would like to begin school today. Well one has found a free library locally and she might want to begin school as soon as she's devoured all the books in there.

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Lisa - hug.gif you and your family continue to be in my prayers.

Math - I like math. I was pretty good at math.... until college calculus. I had a first year, visiting professor who had NO CLUE how to teach. I aced trig and precalc, but just couldn't grasp calculus. Hence my hasty retreat from Pre-med greensad.gif. My Dad is a brilliant mathematician, but not a great teacher. He didn't understand why I didn't understand. I always think, if only I'd had a different prof. If only....

A full but good day in the library. I count it a win that I don't have any kindergarteners this year who have never touched a book before (had two last year, who asked, "What's this" and What's it for?") Of course, full day in the library means no R to R.

sparkle - I'm rocking my first day on the anti-yeast protocol! I have a headache, probably from lack of sugar, but overall, it's going well.

NRR - I find it really amusing that every time I make a "To Do" list, one of my kids adds "Buy Kay a Pony" or "Get Kirsten a Dog" or "Buy Jacob an iPhone" on it! And why is "Dog" always on my grocery list?! Funny, funny kids.
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I count it a win that I don't have any kindergarteners this year who have never touched a book before (had two last year, who asked, "What's this" and What's it for?")
Mind-boggling! dizzy.gif
NRR - I find it really amusing that every time I make a "To Do" list, one of my kids adds "Buy Kay a Pony" or "Get Kirsten a Dog" or "Buy Jacob an iPhone" on it! And why is "Dog" always on my grocery list?! Funny, funny kids.
My list always has "Pokemon" on it. lol.gif

Jooj, had not heard of Annenberg Learner. Thanks! thumb.gif

Kerc, that's interesting about the MOOCs. I've read pros and cons by professors on this. I guess you're seeing students who take it as a credit or pre-req but really aren't prepared? Or maybe take it as a high school credit and are unprepared? Both? Enjoy these last few days with the DDs.

RM, hug.gif

Geo, I second Kerc's idea on checking in on campus. The uni where I got my teaching certificate frequently posted notices in the education dept. Re: Algebra in life. Last night I made cereal but only had 3 cups of flour instead of 4, so I multiplied the rest by .75 and made it anyway. Is that what you mean by real-life algebra?

Real, sorry about the place your sister is in. hug.gif

RR: Tomorrow, I swim for an hour. That's it, folks.

NRR: Walls are up and stained in the classroom. Ceiling tiles and flooring next...
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Originally Posted by Geofizz View Post

Real~ how do you plan how many plants in a given space, or scale up or down a knitting pattern?
Without equations. lol.gif Most things are just a matter of dividing or multiplying. The next time I'm in the process of doing it I'll have to write down the steps. I do have a very funny memory of my sister and I wondering what the sales tax rate was at some town while on vacation. We both grabbed pencils and paper, came up with exactly the same answer, and then glanced at each others' papers and said "how did you do that?" She'd written a very nice algebra equation, and I, of course, had not. My system probably isn't as efficient, but it's worked so far.

Are there any Dingos who could use a road bike tube, size 700 x 28-32c? I accidentally bought the wrong size and couldn't return this one because I'd taken it out of the box and put it in my bike bag in case of a flat. I'll ship it to you for free if you can use it. orngbiggrin.gif
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