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Some "crunchy" things you never thought you would do

post #1 of 20
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Anyone doing/planning something "crunchier" than they thought they would do?

 

I'm planning on doing umbilical cord burning at our planned homebirth.  Never done it before, but wanted a ceremony that the kids could be part of, as well.  Our children have been present at all the homebirths, so we are planning that they will be present at this one, as well.

 

I'm also planning to encapsulate my placenta.  I had a few weeks of intense depression during my 2nd trimester with this pregnancy.  I never experienced this with the other pregnancies.  I want to be sure to do everything I can to secure my health.  (I would have never, ever considered this beforehand.  Though, I did/do appreciate the placenta.)

post #2 of 20

I haven't decided about encapsulating my placenta. I surely wouldn't tell DH about it, he'd be completely weirded out. I keep thinking maybe with my supplementation regime I can keep things under control and the extra money spent on the placenta prep will just be wasted...

post #3 of 20

momzilla: what's the umbilical cord burning for, just as a ritual? i've been bombarded with "cord blood banking" ads during this pregnancy, never actually looked into it though.. haven't given the cord much thought altogether, i guess. 

 

yeah, i've done a bunch of unexpectedly "crunchy" things (or planning for them).

  • hired a doula
  • doing placenta encapsulation
  • refused first u/s at 7 weeks "to confirm pregnancy", backed out of first OB appointments to find a low-intervention OB instead
  • bought pretty much exclusively organic cotton stuff for baby
  • going with coconut oil as opposed to anti-diaper rash products, and so far having no other baby hygiene products in place (much to my mom's shock, who apparently bathed me every day)
  • reading books that originally struck me as "crunchy".. "Birthing from Within" & Penny Simkin. 
  • didn't get a stroller (yet?), instead got a mobi wrap, an ergo carrier and a sling. 
  • being selective about vaccinations 
  • declining circumcision (this was brought up by DF, i had never given it much thought)

 

basically -- i think when i got pregnant, i thought a regular hospital birth would be totally fine with me.. until i realized how different the US medical system is to the one i'm used to (the European). so in that process, i ended up doing a TON more research than i ever thought i would do.. leading me to make "crunchier" decisions than i expected. 

 

only that some of the items i'm mentioning above don't strike me as "crunchy" anymore, but just as "common-sensical" considering the default system.

post #4 of 20

I'm going to consume the placenta raw in smoothies, I think.  I told my MW I had been thinking about consuming it, and she thought it was a good idea and suggested consuming it raw.  With my mood swings and anxiety lately, I think it is a good plan for added protection against PPD.  I managed to get my mom on board to wash the placenta, cut it into cubes, make me my first smoothie and freeze the rest.  She's a little weirded out about it, but says it can't be more difficult than when a friend asked her to make steak tar tar (something she had never prepared before) for her post-birth meal.

 

None of that is too much crunchier than I would have expected of myself, though.  I think I've actually surprised myself by being a little less natural than I expected - I'm starting to lean towards doing the Vitamin K injection, even though I had originally thought I would decline most newborn procedures.

post #5 of 20

I always knew I wanted a home birth and no vaccinations, but my husband convinced me to do placenta encapsulation too.  Actually he wanted to make me placenta stew.  I think we're going to do some encapsulation and some raw in a smoothie.  Animals eat theirs raw, and I figure in a smoothie I won't have to chew it.

post #6 of 20
Aside from declining vaccines in the hospital (for baby and myself- I heard from a friend who delivered at the same hospital recently that they wouldn't let her leave without a TDaP- oh, hell no!) and delaying cord clamping, I don't think our wishes for the birth are too crunchy. I have a general preference for things to be done as naturally as possible, but I want to pick my battles and I'm not willing to go down in flames over vit k or eye ointment, though I think they're generally useless interventions.
As for placenta, last time DP dehydrated and encapsulated it for me, and I could barely stomach the pills, so a lot of it went to waste. I felt bad that he went through so much trouble for something I didn't really use, and I'm not going to push for him to do it again (nor do I know the hospital policy on bringing it home). But if he brings it up, I'll try again wink1.gif
post #7 of 20

jenny, I've read other accounts of women who said it made them feel really funky, not good at all so I'm torn about it. And I totally feel the same way about the vit K and the eye ointment, they seem harmless enough that I don't want to fight over it.

post #8 of 20
Gone with cloth wipes as well as cloth diapers. It's not that I originally planned to go with disposable wipes, I just honestly forgot that I would need wipes until I was placing my diaper order. Since we're not buying any special "baby" soaps and lotions and whatnot and are cloth diapering, I figured it was cheaper and just as easy to have cloth wipes on hand.
post #9 of 20

Pretty much all that vc mentioned - placenta encapsulation, cloth diapers, coconut oil for diaper cream, basically no baby toilettries (got some gentle soap just in case, but not planning to use it unless it becomes necessary), selective and delayed vaccinations (this one I think would have been the biggest surprise to myself a couple of years ago), no stroller, refusing medical procedures and making my own choices.

post #10 of 20

Jenny- What turned you off about taking the capsules?  I am worried this will happen to me too and would hate to pay for it to go to waste. Do they taste awful?  

 I am also planning to encapsulate my placenta and it is a big decision for me as a vegan.  But I did have PPD last time and def want to do all I can to help avoid that this time around. 

post #11 of 20
Vegrunr, they tasted and smelled strange, and I couldn't get it out of my head that perhaps DP hadn't fully dehydrated it before grinding it up. If we do it again I'll look into herbs that can be added to the mix to improve the flavor/odor.
post #12 of 20
I would like to do placenta encapsulation, but I can't afford to have it done and there's no way I could do it myself. I thought about it, and I just can't.

I can't say there's anything especially crunchy for this pregnancy for me, my third baby was the one where I started doing things like declining all the shots and stuff to baby, cloth diapering, not vaccinating, etc. When I went into the hospital Friday to have my BP checked, I was asked if I'd had the tdap shot my LAST pregnancy, which I hadn't, but it's never even been brought up or offered before that. I only know its the newest thing being offered because of hearing other moms mention it on pregnancy boards.

I had a tetanus booster 2 1/2 years ago while on a tornado relief trip, so I'm not about to double up in that anyway-but I wouldn't ever get a vaccination while pregnant. I'm also not about to get one immediately after giving birth. I hate that sometimes I feel almost like a whacked out conspiracy theorist when it comes to things like that, but after years of research and reading studies and other info, I've become so jaded about anything artificial we do to our bodies. I generally keep our choices to myself anymore because even to my own ears it sometimes sounds whackadoo, but it is what it is.
post #13 of 20

Not in this pregnancy, but my first one, I definitely would have been shocked to know that I would be co-sleeping/bed-sharing once the baby got here! LOL. We had his room all set up and I said he wasn't sleeping anywhere but in his crib. He never did sleep in that crib, and I didn't even bother setting it up for #2. :p I've kind of learned to just go with the flow, and let baby's needs dictate decisions like that.

 

Other than that, all the "crunchy" type stuff — homebirthing, exclusive breastfeeding, cloth-diapering, non-circing — we did were not a surprise. But the parenting itself was not something I really thought much about until we were "in the trenches", so to speak. I wish I had read up on attachment parenting and babywearing ahead of time and planned for them. They just weren't really on my radar before birth. But then along came this high needs, colicky baby and I quickly had to figure out better ways to handle him then what I was planning or knew of, and AP fit the bill.

 

The hardest part in that first year of parenting was doing things so differently than most people I knew. If I had really researched it beforehand and had confidence in all our decisions and methods, it would have been much easier! Instead, I felt self-conscious and worried that I was setting myself up for some real problems down the road, especially regarding the nursing and sleeping. Once my first son was weaned and sleeping through the night, however, this weight was just lifted. It worked! I didn't "ruin" him! So parenting the second one was much less stressful, in that way. I didn't care so much what other people thought, but did what worked for US. There were tough times when I wished for a baby who slept through the night and wasn't using me as a pacifier still, but I knew that it would end eventually. That makes it much easier to handle.

 

Besides those things, I'm not all that crunchy. I believe in vaccinations, though we do delay for a bit. I'm getting the vitamin K and eye ointment done after birth. The thought of consuming the placenta makes me queasy (though I'd consider encapsulating if PPD were an issue I was concerned about and I really thought it might help). I'm too cheap for organic baby clothes (though my diapers are). And I have a stroller. ;) I guess I'm a little crispy instead of crunchy. LOL!

post #14 of 20
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Originally Posted by Bromache View Post
 ;) I guess I'm a little crispy instead of crunchy. LOL!

 

 

That's a good description! There are a lot of "crunchy" things I didn't list because we'd already planned to go that way (babywearing, cloth diapers, cosleeping) but we also plan on vaxxing on schedule and are birthing in a hospital. Crispy! Lightly toasted.

post #15 of 20
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Jenny- What turned you off about taking the capsules?  I am worried this will happen to me too and would hate to pay for it to go to waste. Do they taste awful?  

 I am also planning to encapsulate my placenta and it is a big decision for me as a vegan.  But I did have PPD last time and def want to do all I can to help avoid that this time around. 

 

I couldn't bring myself to pay $200-$300 for the encapsulation process...the only thing that was appealing about it was that someone else would be getting everything ready for my consumption, since I doubt I will be up to prepping the placenta for consumption after giving birth.  But the whole dehydration and encapsulation process seems like overkill to me when most mammals consume their placenta raw, and I've heard that as long as you wash all the blood off really well and put it into smoothies, you can't really taste it (and if you include strawberries or raspberries in the smoothies, you can't even really see it).  And the prep for smoothies seemed a lot simpler to me - just wash the blood off, cut it into cubes, and freeze the cubes you don't use right away for later use.  Now that I have my mom on board to do that prep, even better.  I've read one account of it making someone feel funky, and while I believe that different things affect different people in different ways, the article I read definitely seemed to have a bone to pick with placenta consumption, like it had an agenda.  I figure if it makes me feel weird, I can just not consume the rest of it.  I dunno, I just can't believe that every other mammal out there is wrong.  I remember when my cat had kittens (she decided to have them in our neighbor's bedroom while I was out of town), I called DH (then-DB) to go clean up for the neighbor, but when he arrived our cat had already cleaned EVERYTHING up, spick and span.

post #16 of 20

I surprised myself by deciding to encapsulate, as well. After our doula explained it to us, my husband was all about it too! I feel like I will be particularly susceptible to PPD and so I am eager to do what I can to avoid the baby blues. I learned quickly not to mention this to my family though... should have seen the looks on my female family member's faces when I mentioned ingesting the placenta. My SIL (also a doula and very crunchy) has done it before, planning on doing it again, and so it's kind of our secret - we joke about it all the time.

 

Originally Posted by Jennyanydots View Post

Vegrunr, they tasted and smelled strange, and I couldn't get it out of my head that perhaps DP hadn't fully dehydrated it before grinding it up. If we do it again I'll look into herbs that can be added to the mix to improve the flavor/odor.
 

My SIL said she's been able to detect a slightly copper-y aftertaste in the past, and said it helps to drink with juice. Our doula offers two ways of preparing - the traditional Chinese method where you steam with lemon, cayenne & ginger before dehydrating (what we are doing) and a more Western, raw-foods approach where you don't steam, just dehydrate and encapsulate. You women are brave who are willing to eat it raw or put in smoothies... I don't know if I could handle that! 

 

I always knew I'd be on the crunchier side of things, we are CDing and using cloth wipes, BFing, baby wearing (though I do have a stroller), and room sharing/co-sleeping. We got the Arm's Reach, but lately I've been feeling like I will prefer to have her in the bed with me. I've surprised myself on that front because early on in pregnancy I was VERY concerned about suffocation during co-sleeping. 

 

On the other hand, I'm having a hospital birth (mostly due to it being my first and having to be on blood thinners this pregnancy), though we may do a home birth next time. And we are going to vax, with the possible exception of pertussis because I had a very, very bad reaction to the vax as a tot that caused me to have grand maul febrile seizures and be on anti-seizure meds for years. I haven't had the vax since just before my 2nd bday, so I was getting a lot of pressure to vax myself now. Luckily both my OB and my naturopathic doc agreed I should skip it (after reviewing my history), but our pediatrician thinks we should get the vax for the baby since they have changed the way it's made (acellular vs. whole cell - I'm not convinced). 

post #17 of 20

With my daughter:

Cloth diapering

Cosleeping

Breastfeeding for almost 2 years
Delaying her vaccines and now stopping them all together

Keeping the placenta--I couldn't find someone to encapsulate so we brought it home, thinking we were gonna do SOMETHING with it. Well it's been over 2 years and it's still in the freezer :P

-Baby wear

 

With this baby:

All of the above except now

-Planned home birth hopefully in the water!

-Planned Lotus birth

-not doing any vaccines

-not circumsizing

-denying all newborn procedures except PKU testing & hearing test

 

BECOMING A DOULA! FINDING MY CALLING! 

 

My husband introduced me to the idea of not circumsizing years before we had kids. At first I was like why wouldn't I do it? but then I started reading and feel very strongly against RIC. I also NEVER thought I would co sleep but I realized it made life so much easier. I also never saw myself as someone who would breastfeed let alone for as long as I did but when push came to shove I knew it was important. Surprised myself there! Kind of the same with vaccines-once I started reading and seeing the reactions my daughter was having I realized they weren't something for our family. We are looking into homeopathic vaccination. 

 

It's an amazing journey and I do enjoy looking how far I have come and how I have been set on a certain path in life. I feel like natural birthing and breastfeeding education and support for families expecting is something I am meant to do. It's taken me almost ten years to figure it out and I have my daughter to thank for showing me my path in life. 

post #18 of 20
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I couldn't bring myself to pay $200-$300 for the encapsulation process...the only thing that was appealing about it was that someone else would be getting everything ready for my consumption, since I doubt I will be up to prepping the placenta for consumption after giving birth.  But the whole dehydration and encapsulation process seems like overkill to me when most mammals consume their placenta raw, and I've heard that as long as you wash all the blood off really well and put it into smoothies, you can't really taste it (and if you include strawberries or raspberries in the smoothies, you can't even really see it).  And the prep for smoothies seemed a lot simpler to me - just wash the blood off, cut it into cubes, and freeze the cubes you don't use right away for later use.  Now that I have my mom on board to do that prep, even better.  I've read one account of it making someone feel funky, and while I believe that different things affect different people in different ways, the article I read definitely seemed to have a bone to pick with placenta consumption, like it had an agenda.  I figure if it makes me feel weird, I can just not consume the rest of it.  I dunno, I just can't believe that every other mammal out there is wrong.  I remember when my cat had kittens (she decided to have them in our neighbor's bedroom while I was out of town), I called DH (then-DB) to go clean up for the neighbor, but when he arrived our cat had already cleaned EVERYTHING up, spick and span.

 

This makes sense to me, plus I'd like to save $200.  I was going to eat some in a smoothie anyway but it never occurred to  me freeze the rest...pregnancy brain!

post #19 of 20

For the placenta - I'm planning to mix in a chunk in a post labor smoothie, and then encapsulate the rest. I figure I'll be so ravenous after birth that I'll eat / drink whatever is put in front of me, but later on the food might not pass my brain filter because I'll know there's raw placenta mixed in, whilst swallowing pills seems more like a willpower done in a second thing.

post #20 of 20
Yeah, I wish I were woman enough to drink a placenta smoothie, but I know I couldn't handle it. Even chunks of strawberry make me gag. I've got a very wimpy palette and a quick gag reflex.

I guess it's crunchy that we cloth diaper and bf at least 2 years. And I never use soap on baby bottoms or in baths- just warm water and it keeps them plenty clean.
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