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post #1 of 14
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I was reading an article my brother in law sent me about a woman who stopped a rapist by squeezing his testicles once he removed his clothing...........which got me thinking...

If you and/or your child were being attacked by a rapist and you managed to grab a hold of his testicles, how hard would you squeeze?

and what effect do you think this would have on your attacker if you were to decide on not letting go of them?
post #2 of 14

you really want to know?!!!

post #3 of 14

Squeeze as hard as I could......then twist.

post #4 of 14

I would make it as painful as possible for him. 

post #5 of 14
I'd try to make one pop. Debilitating him with pain is the safest way to getting free.
post #6 of 14

I would squeeze his testicles so hard he would be castrated.  I would then go for his eyes.  I've heard it only takes 8 lbs of pressure to pop those out.

post #7 of 14

So, I hate to say the word visualize, but visualize that he's got in you a neck hold and is standing behind you.........you are literally going to let your entire body go limp and you are (ideally) going to drop to the floor while attacker is caught off guard.  Then fight to the death. Be cautioned, if your attacker is high on drugs, etc, the attack to groin may not be felt. (it's the same concept when using mace or pepper spray...it doesn't work on someone who is high)..a different approach will need to be taken to incapacitate your attacker....knees, shins, etc. Again, it's a fight to the death.  If you are a mom, it's time to think about having these talks with your child.......(I so won't go into the facts of child recovery here, but give your child permission to escape from a kidnapper's car......etc).

post #8 of 14

What a strange question! I have to say, I have no idea.

 

Of course in theory I'd squeeze as hard as possible - who wouldn't? And in theory I'd do a bunch of other things, too. DH has advised me to go for the fingers and the eyes - he's also attempted to show me a bunch of ways to throw someone's balance off using leverage behind the knees, but I don't grasp the biomechanics of that even in a calm, safe environment. A rough-and-tough guy I used to know said that the best way to stop a rapist was to urinate or defecate, because it would repulse them - no idea if that's true, or if it would occur to me at the time! The same guy also advised me to go for a weapon, any weapon, because frankly in hand-to-hand combat with even a pitiful, weedy rapist I'd be sunk. No coordination, no strength, no training (not for lack of trying - I met this guy at a medieval martial arts class - I just have anti-talent when it comes to using my body.)

 

And another guy said the best way to ward off an attack is to act weird - start laughing uncontrollably, refuse to acknowledge the situation and chatter away happily to the guy, start quoting poetry, whatever. Anything to upset the expected attacker/victim dynamic to unnerve the attacker. That's more my style, but again, would I remember to do this in a crisis? Probably not.

 

I have no compunctions about maiming or killing an attacker, nor about using my teeth, fists, feet and whatever else is available to stop him. I have violent tendencies, so I suspect if I had enough warning to get my rage built up before I was completely incapacitated that wouldn't be a problem. :p But rage doesn't translate to strength.

 

Honestly? I don't think I'd be much good at all. I was in a car crash a year or so back, and it really opened my eyes to how helpless and sudden a crisis can be, and how everything you think you know goes out the window. It's easy outside the situation to say "Well, you just brake hard and throw the gearstick into reverse and don't swerve" or whatever; but at the time? Obviously a few Readers'-Digest-drama-in-real-life people are able to act coolly and rationally in such circumstances. I'm not. It was just a blur and then over. Heck, I'm still not entirely sure what happened.

 

I suspect an attack would be the same way. It's all very well to know tricks like squeezing testicles or the car-keys-in-the-fist thing or whatever, but in a sudden, unexpected attack (be it date-rape or stranger-in-the-bushes) I don't imagine those techniques help most people. It would be nice to think my maternal protective instincts would kick in, years-old latent martial arts lessons would rush to the fore of my brain and adrenaline would fuel a savage and debilitating attack. But I doubt it.

post #9 of 14

I totally agree with Smokering's post. I would absolutely use as much force as possible. Squeeze, bite, twist, gouge. I don't know what would occur to me in the moment, but I don't believe I would hold back. But I think that perhaps rage can translate to strength - in the sense of focus. In a normal mental state, many other things may be running through your mind. All our lifelong training not to hurt others, etc. It would be hard for me to imagine hurting someone intentionally without rage. But I work in the mental health field, and people, even children, in a state of pure rage seem to have near-superhuman strength. It can be truly frightening.

post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by Smokering View Post
 

I suspect an attack would be the same way. It's all very well to know tricks like squeezing testicles or the car-keys-in-the-fist thing or whatever, but in a sudden, unexpected attack (be it date-rape or stranger-in-the-bushes) I don't imagine those techniques help most people. It would be nice to think my maternal protective instincts would kick in, years-old latent martial arts lessons would rush to the fore of my brain and adrenaline would fuel a savage and debilitating attack. But I doubt it.

 

Yeah this.

 

I hate posts like this because I feel like we get, very quickly, very close to a mentality where we've all figured out how to protect ourselves from attackers, so women who are attacked and hurt must just be, I dunno, very stupid?  Which is not what I believe at all.  I think these stories are sometimes a response to a culture in which rape is minimized and excused and rape victims are punished for speaking out.  Since we all know that if you're raped, it will be immensely difficult to pursue charges, we come up with these urban legends in which, if we know the right moves, we can prevent rape and punish rapists without having to go through the legal process that often harms victims without punishing rapists or improving public safety.

 

Depending on the rapist, the motive for the attack and other factors in the situation, grabbing the testicles and squeezing or twisting could have results ranging from you walking away with a handful of testicles, to you dying horribly.  I don't know what I would do, because I'm not on the ground adding up those factors.  (I'm also not convinced you'd have a realistic chance at twist and grab.  I have never met a guy who didn't automatically guard his groin in a fight.)

 

All the situations are different.  If you're being attacked, you have to play it by ear, and base your decisions on what's happening to you in that moment.  I'm not going to tell anyone to fight to the death, because I presume they don't want to die.  Do whatever you need to do to get out and get safe.  It would be easier to say that if I could assure people that no matter what you say or do to preserve your safety, the legal system will help you prosecute charges against an attacker, because rape is absolutely unacceptable and tolerating crime makes our communities less safe for everyone.

post #11 of 14

just to add to smokering....

 

since i have been tested both times...

 

when "I" am in a situation i mostly freeze up. shut down. my common sense and smartness goes out of the window... i knew what i was supposed to do to avoid the car crash, but i sat and watched it happen... frozen. 

 

... but when its my dd involved it goes the opposite way. i become a super hero with powers unbeknownst to me. my tennis instructor could not believe i could ever move so fast. and i cant. and i never did. again. on the tennis court.  

post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by Lazurii View Post
 

I would squeeze his testicles so hard he would be castrated.  I would then go for his eyes.  I've heard it only takes 8 lbs of pressure to pop those out.

 

whoa...wonder how much effort it takes to produce 8Ibs! My point of view: better HE loses his man berries then ME become a victim of rape!!

post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by sandra063 View Post
 

 

whoa...wonder how much effort it takes to produce 8Ibs! My point of view: better HE loses his man berries then ME become a victim of rape!!

 

A human hand grip is about 40 psi.

post #14 of 14
I have actually done this when I was attacked 20 years ago. I am not going to recount the details of the attack, suffice it to say, it was totally unprovoked and shockingly sudden.

I was able to reach into his clothes. I grabbed around the base of his entire genitals, twisted and squeezed as hard as I could. He screamed in pain and jumped off of me which gave me enough time to escape. Had I not done, I would most likely be dead right now.

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