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post #1 of 54
Thread Starter 

This is a roll-call thread! I'm a mom of one 21-month-old son, and he has all of his vaccinations according to the Canadian schedule.

 

Introduce yourselves!

post #2 of 54
Hi Michelle!

I have an an almost 18 month old son who is vaccinated on the US schedule.

He's healthy as a horse, has never needed an antibiotic and has only ever gone to the doctor for well baby check ups. Well, that's not completely true. He rolled off the bed once when he was 6 months old and got a little bloody nose and goose egg and I brought him in as a precaution.

Other than that he's been perfect smile.gif
Edited by teacozy - 9/15/13 at 10:53am
post #3 of 54
Mom to a 2 1/2 year old boy vaccinated on the US schedule. He has been blessed with daddy's immune system and has nott been sick much at all. Never needed medicine yet. Had one ear infection at 4 months but otherwise only well baby visits. Will be getting a flu shot in a few weeks
post #4 of 54
I've got 2 - they're 6 and 3 now. We moved from US to UK with the eldest, so her schedule's a mush of those two. Younger one on UK schedule which has some vaccines US doesn't and not others it does. The recommended timings differ a bit too. smile.gif

Should we ask to transfer some of the more "on schedule" feeling threads from the other board, or better to start afresh and just link back (eg I'm thinking the "my kid just had a shot thread"), or the ones about why people on schedule might want a support board from MDC.
post #5 of 54

Hello! I have one daughter aged 2 years and a bit. She has had all the vaccines on the US schedule (except rotavirus, which her doc said she would order and didn't). We did space them a little, but I feel I belong here more than in selective/delayed because my default is to be in favor of vaccines and I may tweak a few, versus defaulting to being scared/worried about vaccines. 

post #6 of 54

I totally think you belong here, erigeron:love

 

Hi! I'm Rosemary. Expecting my first in March. Obviously no vaccinations yet, but if I could vaccinate in the womb I probably would. :thumb

 

prosciencemum, I don't really have an opinion one way or another on transferring threads vs starting new ones and linking back . . . 

 

Pleased to meet everyone and SO HAPPY that we have our own space!

post #7 of 54
Thread Starter 
You do belong here, Erigeron! As we're learning here, schedules differ from country to country so our kids might be getting things in different orders or different timings. Actually, perhaps we should start a thread about the different schedules!

I "delayed" my son's 12-month shots. When we came in, he was quite sick with a cold so they told me to come in later. The next appointment available was 6 weeks later.

When they get them isn't an exact science. The main thing is to get those antibodies working.

I think the main thing is that, in general, we all
1) have a basic understanding of how vaccines work
2) view them as generally safe
3) view them to be generally worth the risk to help prevent diseases
4) view the medical recommendations surrounding them (like schedules and dosage) to be generally well enough conceived
5) believe that society benefits as a whole with a vaccinated population

I don't know, is that a pretty good summary of how we feel as a group?
post #8 of 54
Thread Starter 
Btw: re vaccinating in the womb. If your vaccines are up to date, Pepperedmoth, your infant will benefit from that. S/he will get your antibodies through your breast milk.
post #9 of 54

My son, 2, is vaccinated on the US schedule. Where I live I'm an exception :)  

post #10 of 54

I have a 20 month old son, vaccinated on schedule.  He's had one ear infection in his life.  Otherwise no illness, no allergies, no rashes...

 

Vaccines were a hot topic for me before I even had kids.  My background is in infectious disease with a bit of immunology thrown in and pseudoscience used to really make me rage.  I'm much less passionate when it comes to trying to teach the internet about science these days, but it's still a strong interest of mine. 

post #11 of 54
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Originally Posted by erigeron View Post We did space them a little, but I feel I belong here more than in selective/delayed because my default is to be in favor of vaccines and I may tweak a few, versus defaulting to being scared/worried about vaccines. 

 

This is me as well.  I have an 11yo who is fully vaxed although we did do the infant shots one at a time to check for reactions, which resulted in delays for some of them.  I am also torn about the HPV vax and am probably going to delay that one at this point (eta: if anyone wants to try to talk me in or out of that, I won't consider that unsupportive, because I am truly seeking information and preferably from a pro-vax p.o.v..)

 

My daughter is amazingly healthy.  She has had one sick visit -- strep -- to the doctor, ever (there have been well-child checks and a few visits for injuries, but only one related to illness), and she has had perfect attendance in school for the past three years.


Edited by chickabiddy - 9/17/13 at 11:52am
post #12 of 54
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Originally Posted by MichelleZB View Post

Btw: re vaccinating in the womb. If your vaccines are up to date, Pepperedmoth, your infant will benefit from that. S/he will get your antibodies through your breast milk.

 

Thanks, Michelle! I knew that, but it was tucked away in one of those inaccessible cortical folds . . . now I'll remember, and it's reassuring indeed. 

 
I am indeed up to date on all my vaccines. I live in an area with high non-vaccination rates, and I'm definitely worried about my little one contracting pertussis (a lot of that goes around in Vermont) in those vulnerable first two months. 
 
Yay for breast feeding!
post #13 of 54

Yes, definitely, nurse that baby!  You will pass on your antibodies, and if you are exposed you will make even more antibodies to pass on.

post #14 of 54
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 I am also torn about the HPV vax and am probably going to delay that one at this point (eta: if anyone wants to try to talk me in or out of that, I won't consider that unsupportive, because I am truly seeking information and preferably from a pro-vax p.o.v..)

 

So, why are you torn? What are the points against the HPV shot? Is it just too expensive?

post #15 of 54

All mine were vaccinated on schedule pretty much. My younger ones have been later and later off schedule, mainly because I'm disorganised, not because of any antipathy toward to schedule. I'm very pro people making the right decision for their kids. When my oldest (now 10) was a baby, I remember a good friend absolutely agonising over the MMR. She actually did have an older kid who developed autism, seemingly just after the shot. She was 90% sure that it was a huge co-incidence but back then the MMR was news. It was a heartbreaking level of doubt. OTOH, we both moved in very low vax circles, and I've always reasoned that if you react to the MMR, logically you are likely to have a stronger reaction to live measles (I don't think there's any evidence for this, btw, but I'd take that as evidence of the MMRs safety). FWIW I was happy that by having my kids vaxed, the onus was a little less on her to get it done because I can see how that would be be a truly agonising decision (although ultimately she went for the jab-and her daughter was fine). I think there are good reasons beyond pure medical indicators for not contributing to herd immunity. At the end of the day though not wanting your child to take the minuscule risk inherent in any vaccine, yet letting them benefit from herd immunity, seems a bit selfish to those who genuinely can't have the vaccine. I'd rather my kids went through five seconds of pain and the tiny, tiny, tiny risk of adverse effects to improve the prognosis of another child who was immunocompromised as a result of chemotherapy, say. 

 

Actually my kids have had extra vaccines. The older two just missed out on the meningitis one and I had them done privately, because I think meningitis really is scary in this age group. I've had it myself-measles complications as a kid. It always makes me laugh when people say its only kids with poor diets that get complications, btw. My parents ran a whole food shop!

 

Oh and my kids are never ill either! I've never understood the idea that vaccines weaken the immune system. I mean I just don't get the logic. We introduce far, far worse toxins than anything in vaccines to our bodies quite routinely, say because we like to drive around in a car.


Edited by Fillyjonk - 9/18/13 at 3:20am
post #16 of 54
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Originally Posted by MichelleZB View Post
 

 

So, why are you torn? What are the points against the HPV shot? Is it just too expensive?

 

I'm pretty sure it's covered by my insurance, but even if not, cost is not a factor.

 

First is that it's too new to have a long-term safety record I feel completely comfortable with.  Second is that at age 11, I don't think she needs it yet.  But I know she needs it before she *needs* it, ikywim, and that's why I'm torn.

post #17 of 54

I don't know much about HPV as it is fairly new and it won't be on my vaccination radar for another 9 years.  It's been approved and in use for 7 years, is that right?  And in development for like 30 some?  How long a track record would make you comfortable?  (This is something I've been thinking about lately with the recent TDaP-for-every-pregnancy recommendation.)

 

Are there specific aspects about this vaccine that are different from others that give you pause?  Just the virus itself?  Or the reports of adverse effects?

post #18 of 54

As a midwife I see the consequences of HPV allll the time, and this is actually one of the vaccines I'm most eager to give my kid. I have a son but 1)it's good to decrease the number of HPV+ people out there and 2)it's not just cervical cancer HPV causes but throat, anal, penile, and probably others as well. I want to know how long protection lasts but if it gets people through the years when they are more likely to have multiple partners, even if serially monogamous, then I'll be happy. I plan to start the series when he's 11.

post #19 of 54
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I'm pretty sure it's covered by my insurance, but even if not, cost is not a factor.

 

First is that it's too new to have a long-term safety record I feel completely comfortable with.  Second is that at age 11, I don't think she needs it yet.  But I know she needs it before she *needs* it, ikywim, and that's why I'm torn.

 

It's been approved and in use now for about 6 years, right? How long should a vaccine be in use before you are comfortable with it? Of course, before it was approved, it went through clinical trials for safety.

 

Of course, this isn't an entirely "new" drug. It's a vaccine. Same mechanism as all the other vaccines, different virus. It works like every vaccine: you're exposed to a mild form of the virus, and then your body fights it, forming antibodies that will be able to attack a stronger version should you ever be exposed again. So... I guess I want to know what kind of adverse effects this particular vaccine would have that other vaccines wouldn't. Is there another reason to be concerned about this one, but not about all the other vaccines your daughter has had? If she has been fine with most of her other shots, what would make this one different?

 

Did you have similar doubts about other newer vaccines, like chickenpox or rotovirus? Or did you do those?

post #20 of 54

Rotavirus was not yet introduced when my daughter was born in 2002, so we did not do it.  I had similar concerns about varicella but eventually decided it was worth it.  I'll probably decide in the end that HPV is worth it as well.  My main concern is that it still feels new to me.

 

Can I say how happy I am to be able to discuss this with other people whose default is to vax, instead of the opposite?

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