Pook, I'm sorry it was just the beginning of AF. Progesterone is so awful for that kind of thing.
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redrockband, AHHHHHH!!!!! keep us posted!
Darcy, I have all of that info somewhere, lemme look. Ok, basically, we were given this quote by Sd fertility for out of pocket IVF: $12,170 + $470 for anesthesia + medications (can range up to $8,000). But onlly 2k of that can be paid for by our insurance if we end up qualifying to use our benefits. We might be able to get our meds covered, which is great.
From FSMG, they said this: $10,500 + $460 for anesthesia + medications. If our insurance covers this, then we would potentially only have to pay $4,000 plus a $1,000 deductible in addition to our regular one. The "facility fee" for the surgical center is usually the largest cost, and the "professional fee" to pay the RE is usually not as large. The surgical fee for SD Fertility is much higher than at FSMG as far as I can tell.
Hope that helps!
afm, we're now 3dpiui, and lady is eating her pineapple and putting in the progesterone suppository like a good ttcer! for whatever reason, i'm convinced this is not the cycle it happens, although even while i type that i realize that i'm lying, that i totally think this is it. but i think just because the financial part is my responsibility, it's important for me to feel like we have a plan for the next cycle(s). thinking of you all!
Thanks for the congrats everyone!
fried: Sorry to hear about the AMH results, but good that you are doing IVF now. I hoping everyone doing IVF results in a big gayby boom over here.
isa: Hurrah for a good transfer. Can't wait to hear if there are one or two little growing beans in there.
sandiego: Good luck, I hope this is it for you too
mama: We didn't make it to the Ani concert, I was bummed but it was after this crazy folk/gospel/crazy concert. Spirit Family Reunion and a few other bands.
lea: So sorry to hear AF showed up. Hopefully you can work out travel next month to try again
darcy: Welcome back, good luck with the upcoming tries. We only did one insem per cycle. Are you doing IUI's or ICI's?
pook: What a bummer about AF, but how great that you're LP was 10 days, it is definitely an improvement. I wish we would foster/adopt, it sounds hard but we really hope that it's an option for us one day when laws here change
jam: Good luck this cycle, you are doing IUI's with a Dr. right?
sandie: Fingers crossed for you and your lady. Hope that pineapple does the trick.
AFM: Took another test this morning, a digital and it clearly said pregnant. We told my mom yesterday and she was really excited. She said she knew before we came over. We'll tell the rest of my family this week and DW will decide when she wants to tell hers. They are all very conservative Mormon folk and don't think we should have kids so we'll see how that goes. I'll stick around here for a while if that's alright. We are on mission to find a midwife and are cautiously hoping it sticks
redrock - my icons have all disappeared but CONGRATULATIONS!!!! i'll do a proper fruit parade tonight but that's fantastic news, about time we had a BFP here!!!!
And... I'm spotting. So I guess I'm out for this month. I don't know what was going on with all those symptoms. This also only gives me a 10 day luteal phase. It's an improvement over 8, but it's not enough. I'm so disappointed. Do you guys think that things are still balancing out and that I'll see a bigger improvement on the LP next month?
Not sure if we'll continue trying after next month because it gets in to the academic calendar and could mess with life all around. Our backup plan has been to just make ourselves open to another relinquished child and hope that we hit the baby lottery the way we did with S. It's also still at least until March if not July until we know what's going on with A. He's 13 months old now and has been with us for 9 months. I <3 that guys so much, it breaks my hear to think of him leaving.
I haven't been following along at all but have you tried vitamin b6 to lengthen your luteal phase? I've seen it work for lots of ppl. Do some research though as you don't want to take too much....
Everything I just typed got deleted ugh! let's try this again...
Congrats Redrock!!!! We are doing IUIs with RE because I am follicle size challenged, have a very low amh and need clomid to ovulate a mature follicle and also have low progesterone. I think I want to try an ICI at home, too.
Jam - Thanks for the info. Our doc says the same thing but with all the bumps in the road we are encountering I feel like an additional insem can't hurt.
Sandiegongp - Wow! Thank you for getting all of that info. It's really helpful to see real numbers so that we know what we might be getting ourselves into. We are going to start saving right away and I will also have DW look into her insurance. It might cover more than mine does. It's so great to hear you have insurance that will cover a large portion of your bill if needed. That's got to feel great!
pooka I second vit. B and also vitex. I hope your LP sorts itself out. My doc was always very adamant about me getting at least 12 days to give the embryo a good chance to implant.
afm where is AF when I want her to come? I can't wait to start shooting up. Fun fact, did you know that Menopur is made from older womens pee and Ovitrelle from genetically modified cells from a chinese hamster? Hamsters and pee, worth 2000 bucks (which is more than our wedding bands cost -eek) currently occupying a third of our refrigerator, this whole IVF business feels like a cross-over episode of McGyver and Dr Who.
Fried - Nice! Menopur is good as apparently has less chance of giving you hyperstimulated ovaries!!! They unfortunately don't have it in Guernsey so I had to make do with Ovritrelle (which was the syringe that cracked our first go round). When's your wedding? A little tip - rub an ice cube on the injection spot to numb & you shouldn't have too much trouble with the jabs.
The wedding was last month, last weekend in september. We already celebrated our 1 month anniversary
Did you use Ovitrelle more than once? Was it part of your stim protocol? The Menopur in my protocol is for stimulation, just like Bravelle, Gonal F or Puregon that most people seem to use. Those however as far as I know don't contain LH with the FSH, so with my questionable egg quality they gave me Menopur since that LH supposedly helps for that. Menopur as a brand isn't available in Germany either, but I had the pharmacy do a EU import from Czech, which also saved us 20% and got the other two meds via internet from France, also at 30% off. There was an even cheaper option of using Merional instead of Menopur, but that one isn't licensed for most EU countries since part of it comes from China and they can't show that those incredients aren't possibly infected with BSE. I guess that risk for getting infected with mad cow disease via chinese older womens pee is neglectible though. With the Menopur I take Citrotide from day 7 for O suppression (some people use Ganirelix or Lupron or Synarela) and the Ovitrelle as the final shot to release the goodies.
I am not really scared of hyperstimulating right now with my amh level and if it turns out that we do get there, we might forego the transfer and just do a FET next month. My clinic usually recommends doing it that way because they say the pregnancy is what makes it really worse.
You're feeling better by now though, I hope? Belly growing from baby instead of OHSS bloating?
By the way - I never heard back about the BBC documentary, I guess we didn't fit with their vision. Are you participating?
Darcy--another thing to ask your clinic if you do get going on IVF is whether they have any cost-sharing or donated meds you could take advantage of. Last time I had some extras and no one on here was in a place to use them, so I just brought them back to the clinic and they donated them to someone whose insurance didn't cover them. And I know lots of places offer some kind of shared risk program where you pay more than you would for a single cycle but if it doesn't work you get another one or two for free. All worth looking into.
AFM--not sure what to think these days. I feel a little nauseated, and a little tired and a little everything else. But whatever it is is really subtle and I can't tell if it's just PMS trying to break through these meds or early pregnancy. We'll find out on Friday. Yesterday DP's two cousins both had little baby girls--they're so thrilled to have had them on the same day! It's exciting and happy, but I can't help feeling a little sorry for myself if I'm not pregnant and have to go through all of this again.
fried: How bizarre, hey if hamsters and pee do the trick I guess I should be more grateful for them
darcy: well I would say based on everything I've read that one vial with an IUI is the way to go. You've got to do what's best though. If we could have afforded it I would have wanted to use two per cycle
jam: It was our third try, but really only our second I guess since we totally botched one of them and inseminated a week early
liz and jwaite: thanks for the veggies!!
isa: can't wait for Friday! nauseated is a good sign, I don't know how it was with your first but other than nausea the painful breasts was the biggest difference for me between normal PMS and being pregnant. They hurt, so bad, it's crazy. DW is obsessed with checking everyday to see how different they look and feel.
Sorry for no other personals. My period came along on Monday, so I've been "managing my disappointment" (with chocolate and mindless television watching, mostly). My chart (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/fillefantome) was crazy this month (traveling, irregular temping, temporarily lost/unavailable thermometers, you name it). I never had a clear temp raise and FF thought I was just at 5 DPO on Monday when my period started. Totally inexplicable/maddening, though there's nothing I could really have done either way--we'd started insemming by when I figure I must actually have O'd CD14-16, so we did have a decent to good try (even if it was fruitless-literally). But, it's the first time I haven't been able to figure out where I O'd looking backwards--which makes me really nervous about whether I actually did O--and if I didn't, if this means there's something wrong that's going to mean TTC will have to go high tech (which I absolutely can't afford).
We'll ship again in November--the upside to having this cycle end so much earlier than I thought was that I should be ovulating in mid instead of late Nov, so my KD won't be traveling for Thanksgiving, and we can hopefully get a November insem in.
I'm thinking I'll talk to my doctor about whether I should do some testing during the December cycle (assuming November isn't my month). I'll likely have met my out-of-pocket maximum for the year by then, so assuming my insurance will cover testing--it doesn't cover "infertility treatment"--that would make sense financially. I'll have been trying for a year, officially, with 6 actual insem cycles, so I think we'll have given it the old low tech (ish) try, and might as well get some medical input on whether everything's in order.
I officially hate this. I signed a baby shower card this morning for one of my coworkers who's due in a month, and who I know struggled with her fertility, and this is the first time I've been jealous of her, instead of excited for her. So, bleh.
fille - sorry to hear that.
fried - CONGRATS! I think I knew that but baby brain is kicking in xx
We only used Ovitrelle once as a trigger. Yeah wanted to use Menopur instead of Gonal but didn't have the choice. Good job on getting them cheap! I had gonal, then orgalutran to stop the ovulation then ovritrelle at the end. Good point about the overstimulation.
I feel much better ta, have a baby belly though! not liking looking down and not seeing my toes but it's all for a good reason. Not heard back from the BBC either, who knows what they're doing x