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post #1 of 33
Thread Starter 

Anyone else worried? concerned? Any of you affected personally?

 

I've been watching the news a bit and this could really have a negative consequence real soon. There seems to be enough state money in the reserves for now but if it extends beyond thirty days, then we may have to worry.

post #2 of 33

DH is military and had to send a lot of people home yesterday.  A handful need to keep working without pay.  Hard times.  He's still getting paid (so far, don't know how the debt ceiling will impact that) so we're in good shape now but troubled for those around us.

 

Interestingly, I got a phone call today regarding a CDC survey -- surprised that was still happening.  It wasn't made by a government agency, they have a university doing it, so the money must have already been in place.

 

DS2 gets an educational benefit through DH; if things go on long enough he may not get a November check.

 

DS1's girlfriend is a grad student, and I think part of her stipend might be federally funded.

 

Hope people around here aren't running into trouble from it.  This is so sad.  Just the whole situation.

post #3 of 33

My husband works for the gov't. So far one person was laid off yesterday. Several others were furloughed with no promises of when they will be paid. Some money was diverted to keep dh coming to work for now, because he needs to run the main computer systems. 

 

We were supposed to go on vacation next week. Have been planning this for a year. Now dh tells me that it would look bad for him to take the vacation since so many are going without pay, and I agree, but it irritates me. And one of the places on our destination-- the big highlight of the trip-- The Grand Canyon is closed. My girls have not seen it since they were toddlers. I was building them up for it, now that they are older and can enjoy it and appreciate the geology lessons as well as spiritual experience. We have already paid for the cabin so I guess me and the kids will go without dh. Some vacation.

 

Last time this happened 17 years ago, dh's INS green card paperwork got lost en route. He almost lost his job because he could not get his work permit renewed. I had to call our congressman to get things moving for him. Thank goodness the congressman helped us.

 

I should not complain too much. At least I am not depending on WIC to feed my babies, and not dependent on Head Start to watch my kids so I can work. And I am not a cancer patient who now is not able to get the experimental drugs that could save my life. I don't know how some of those people in Washington can sleep at night knowing how they are hurting so many people. I heard an interview on the BBC and I didn't catch the name of the Senator, but he insisted that this would not affect "ordinary people" and most people would not even know that this was going on. 

post #4 of 33

My husband is a law enforcement officer with the US Fish and Wildlife service, so he's till working, but if this goes on a lot longer, he'll be working with out pay.  He's had to close his refuges and send people home.  He's had to tell hunters who have hunted on the refuge for years, that it's closed.  So far though, everyone has been really understanding.  I'm still waiting for someone to take it out on him.  So we'll see. 

post #5 of 33
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I should not complain too much. At least I am not depending on WIC to feed my babies, and not dependent on Head Start to watch my kids so I can work. And I am not a cancer patient who now is not able to get the experimental drugs that could save my life. I don't know how some of those people in Washington can sleep at night knowing how they are hurting so many people. I heard an interview on the BBC and I didn't catch the name of the Senator, but he insisted that this would not affect "ordinary people" and most people would not even know that this was going on. 

I know.  It's shocking, so it's hard to be too upset.  We'll see what happens when/if dh doesn't get his next paycheck, and we're struggling to eat.  

post #6 of 33

Im glad i no longer depend on wic.

post #7 of 33
Thread Starter 

Prayers to all the families personally affected :grouphug

post #8 of 33

Word circulating today has DH more nervous that he may not get paid upcoming mid-month, so we may be hunkering down here for a bit.  We're very, very lucky, though:

 

- DS2's tuition is already paid through the end of this calendar year

- DS1 starts his new job in a few days and will be making enough to cover all both his and his girlfriend's expenses if needed (including his loans, though we had offered to cover those)

- my mother, who is now living with us, has a modest income plus savings and is disgustingly generous

- we bought our home with an assumption of a much lower income than DH currently makes, so our mortgage payment is low

- we have savings

- our bank has offered 0% pay advance loans to affected members who have direct deposits going into accounts with them

 

We have all that and I'm still terrified.  I cannot imagine what's facing those in some of the situations out there.  I'm counting my blessings tonight.  Good luck to everyone . . .

post #9 of 33
DH was furloughed last Tuesday, but his boss called yesterday and "invited" him back to work on Monday, without pay until the shutdown ends. He's a GS employee for the Air Force. Fortunately, he draws a military retirement check so at least we won't get behind on our mortgage. I hope this all ends soon.
post #10 of 33

Dh has one more week until he doesn't get paid. I'm only working p/t right now but may have to pick up some extra shifts.

post #11 of 33

http://washingtonexaminer.com/updated-amber-alert-website-down-due-to-government-shutdown/article/2536887/comments#disqus_thread

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"The Amber alert website, the national missing-child warning program, has been shut off due to the government shutdown, according to the Department of Justice.

 

“Due to the lapse in federal funding, this Office of Justice Programs website is unavailable,” it says on amberalert.gov.

 

Just 17 percent of the government is shut down, and Friday the Obama administration allowed union representatives to return to work.

 

So, union members could return to work, but the website to alert Americans to missing children had to be taken down?

 

UPDATE: "Following the outcry that the website was taken down, it appears the DOJ has relented and set it live again: amberalert.gov."

 

Pay attention, guys and girls, they aren't playing.  They're gonna keep stomping their feet and tantruming and holding children hostage until they get their way.  Cuss.gif

post #12 of 33

Except the above is not true:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/missing/shutdown.asp

 

Apparently that was an informational site run by DoJ, not the actual system, which is local.

 

National Center for Missing and Exploited Children: "AMBER Alert not impacted by shutdown"

http://www.missingkids.com/home

post #13 of 33
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Originally Posted by Ragana View Post
 

Except the above is not true:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/missing/shutdown.asp

 

Apparently that was an informational site run by DoJ, not the actual system, which is local.

 

National Center for Missing and Exploited Children: "AMBER Alert not impacted by shutdown"

http://www.missingkids.com/home

 

What's sad is that I believed it was possible.

 

DH got a pay statement for the 15th yesterday, so the paperwork is moving along as usual.  I'll be really surprised if people who are supposed to get paid all get paid on time -- not snarky surprised, just thinking of all the support staff that had been furloughed and the backlog stemming from that.  Hope it comes through for everyone.

 

Debt ceiling will be the next nail-biter.

post #14 of 33

gosh what a world we live in!!!

 

climate change? what? that's bunkum!!! it doesnt exist!

 

debt ceiling? waht's the big deal?!!! nothing will happen. things will be normal..... <shiver> so people might not get their disability check. so what!!! its ok. they'll somehow survive. 

 

we were promised the armed forces and VA wont be affected. hah!!! just shows one doesnt know what they are talking about. death benefits for our dead soldiers - many of them just out of high school are being held back. not sure if things have changed today. yeah. if you dont have savings, u cant buy a plane ticket to go pick up your son's casket. 

post #15 of 33

We just got Dh's last paycheck for the time being.  It only included 5 days instead of 10.  I really hope that this doesn't go on for much longer.  I have to laugh at the irony of the fact that if the government was open, dh could be off on Monday for the federal holiday, but because it's closed, he has to work and he won't even get payed for it until this whole thing is over.  sigh. 

post #16 of 33

So the day after we get back from our failed Grand Canyon trip, AZ decides to open it and pay for it with state funding! :irked We spent 4 nights in a lovely cabin, saw some snow and found some charming little museums to go to. But it's not the same as the Grand Canyon. 

post #17 of 33

oh no!!! how frustrating. if this helps...

 

when dd was 8 we first went to Canyonlands in UT. we camped out in teh most rugged part and at other places in Canyonland (spent a week there) and then went to AZ and the Grand Canyon. dd shocked the Ranger there when she said she was disappointed with the Grand Canyon. it wasnt such a big deal. the maze in Canyonland was much more spectacular. his jaw hung down when he realised she had gone to the maze and had hiked some long hikes. he said that's a well kept secret and that he agreed with dd. he was on the rescue team that went looking for the guy which became the movie 127 hours. 

 

dd chaffed  her inner thighs otherwise she was sooo looking forward to hiking into the canyon. 

 

but i will say we saw the license plates of every state in our union as well as canada. including hi and ak. 

post #18 of 33

DH is funded for one more week before furlough. We're crossing our fingers things will be resolved before that time comes.  The primary employer of our town is gov't funded so ~70% of the families in our town will be furloughed. This will hit the others in our town pretty hard because they rely on our business to stay open.  Food service contractors and janitorial workers in DH's facility were let go last week in an effort to save on operational costs.  We at least have the possibility of receiving back-pay. Our neighbors who work in service and retail do not.  

post #19 of 33
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Originally Posted by USAmma View Post

So the day after we get back from our failed Grand Canyon trip, AZ decides to open it and pay for it with state funding! irked.gif  We spent 4 nights in a lovely cabin, saw some snow and found some charming little museums to go to. But it's not the same as the Grand Canyon. 
That stinks.
post #20 of 33
 
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Originally Posted by Sativarain1 View Post
 

Anyone else worried? concerned? Any of you affected personally?

 

I've been watching the news a bit and this could really have a negative consequence real soon. There seems to be enough state money in the reserves for now but if it extends beyond thirty days, then we may have to worry.

 

 

I am not personally effected nor is anyone in my immediate family.  I don't have any friends that are effected, as far as I know.  My father may be (I don't read/watch/listen to the news so I don't know how widespread it all is) since he's on disability.  He hasn't mentioned anything.

 

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Originally Posted by USAmma View Post
 

My husband works for the gov't. So far one person was laid off yesterday. Several others were furloughed with no promises of when they will be paid. Some money was diverted to keep dh coming to work for now, because he needs to run the main computer systems. 

 

We were supposed to go on vacation next week. Have been planning this for a year. Now dh tells me that it would look bad for him to take the vacation since so many are going without pay, and I agree, but it irritates me. And one of the places on our destination-- the big highlight of the trip-- The Grand Canyon is closed. My girls have not seen it since they were toddlers. I was building them up for it, now that they are older and can enjoy it and appreciate the geology lessons as well as spiritual experience. We have already paid for the cabin so I guess me and the kids will go without dh. Some vacation.

 

Last time this happened 17 years ago, dh's INS green card paperwork got lost en route. He almost lost his job because he could not get his work permit renewed. I had to call our congressman to get things moving for him. Thank goodness the congressman helped us.

 

I should not complain too much. At least I am not depending on WIC to feed my babies, and not dependent on Head Start to watch my kids so I can work. And I am not a cancer patient who now is not able to get the experimental drugs that could save my life. I don't know how some of those people in Washington can sleep at night knowing how they are hurting so many people. I heard an interview on the BBC and I didn't catch the name of the Senator, but he insisted that this would not affect "ordinary people" and most people would not even know that this was going on. 

 

 

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Originally Posted by momasana View Post
 

DH is funded for one more week before furlough. We're crossing our fingers things will be resolved before that time comes.  The primary employer of our town is gov't funded so ~70% of the families in our town will be furloughed. This will hit the others in our town pretty hard because they rely on our business to stay open.  Food service contractors and janitorial workers in DH's facility were let go last week in an effort to save on operational costs.  We at least have the possibility of receiving back-pay. Our neighbors who work in service and retail do not.  

 

As a humanist, I'm truly sorry for the suffering of everyone.  I can't imagine. I'm grateful that we do not need to rely on the government & hope that those who do will be able to come out of this okay or better.

 

I think that this highlights the fact that the government is not actually about taking care of people, the environment, animals, etc., but about power & control.  As a voluntaryist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voluntaryism), none of this shocks me at all.  I realize that this view is unlikely to be popular and I'm okay w/ that.  I don't know exactly what the answer is, but I know that the way things are being done isn't working & really never has been.  Using force on children doesn't work & it doesn't work w/ adults either. 

 

Best wishes,

Sus

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