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Losing too much weight on SCD/paleo

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Sorry if there is a thread out about this but I'm on my phone so searching isnt very efficient.

I've been on a paleo/SCD/GAPS/no-dairy diet for about 3 months. I've been all in - 100% except for the last week - I've been experimenting with adding in small amounts of brown rice & gluten free oatmeal (soaked in an acid medium). (I know on SCD I should be waiting to do this but my outward symptoms have always been minimal & so far I haven't had any negative reactions.)

My energy has generally been great, except for a transition period at the start. I feel better. My cravings come & go, though they aren't strong & I suspect they may be more linked to my cycle than anything else. My appetite is good. I eat lots of good fats. Maybe to many nuts.

But I'm losing weight & I'm a bit worried. I lost a bunch of weight when we basically stopped eating bread & pasta about 1 1/2 years ago, about 10 lbs. over the course of a year. I chalked it up to losing the "wheat belly" & felt good about it. Now that I've cut out almost all grains I feel like I'm wasting away. My clothes don't fit & everyone comments on how tiny I am now. I'm guessing I've lost at least another 5 lbs, if not more.

I guess I just feel like it's not healthy to be so skinny & bony. But maybe it's just a result of cutting out all the complex carbs?! I don restrict my intake AT ALL. If I'm hungry, I eat. (Sometime I eat when I'm not hungry... old, bad habit...)

I don't exercise really except walking, cycling, gardening, etc. Sometimes I feel bone-tired after a physically full day, but that's not the norm. Generally I feel good. I've been working on multiple deficiencies & probable gut damage (hence the SCD/GAPS).

Is it possible to be healthy & pretty darn small? Is this something I need to worry about? What can I add to my diet to gain weight?
post #2 of 14

It looks like your post might have been missed, so I'm bumping it up for attention. :bump: Anyone have suggestions to share?

post #3 of 14
I'm having the same problem. I cut out dairy and most grains due to some suspected food allergies in my 6-month old, who is nursing. I've basically been on a paleo diet for about four months. My weight has dropped to below pre-pregnancy weight and I was small to begin with, so am not comfortable losing any more weight. I've been using tropical oils (coconut, palm oil) for cooking and have not been eating lean meat (e.g. boneless, skinless), so am getting quite a bit of fat. Now that it's fall, I'm adding more starchy vegetables (pumpkin/squash, root vegetables), but haven't seen any changes yet. I have an appointment with my nutritionist next week, so will ask her about this and hopefully get some recommendations I can share.
post #4 of 14

Same here. While not losing weight, I should be gaining it, as I am pregnant. Have not gained anything, and am 31 weeks. I do feel good and am a normal weight, but my 21-year-old (adopted boy) and 20-year-old (adopted girl) are really underweight and always have been.

 

It doesn't seem right to subject them to a diet that is recommended for people who want to get or stay slim? 

 

What we usually did, was cook the main meal for everyone. Then, to their potatoes, we would add cream, to their pasta we would add butter and cheese. But now, everyone is getting into the slow-cooker and it is harder, especially if you want to avoid the store-bought pasta.

 

There must be recipes for people who want to gain, but don't want to eat crap?

post #5 of 14
Paleo is very similar to the Atkins Diet - which aims to put a body into a state of "Ketosis" - so that it burns energy off its own fat stores. It was generally regarded that if you ate less than 10 grams of carbs a day - you were in "Ketosis" and would start to lose weight.
I think your best bets are to add plenty - and i mean plenty of sweet potatoes and all the fruit you want BACK into the diet. Also - i know its not sticking to the true Paleo - but beans have lots of decent carbs -
im looking at it from the other end of the fence....i need to lose weight and try to maintain a Paleo diet in order to best do that - i find when i overdue the starchy vegetables or add a few beans in with my meat - my weight loss is affected.
Adding fats really wont help with weight gain - focus on the carbs and sugars. Bananas are paleo arent they? dates? eat the coconut, not just the oil - and veggies like carrots, beets, yams are 'high' in carbs.
post #6 of 14

Our big kids were 5'11 and weighed 7.5 stone when we adopted them (DH's bro and sis). We did manage to get them up to 9 stone with smoothies (bananas, vanilla ice cream, sugar and cream, sometimes berries added). But now it has stalled. Still 9 st at 6 ft and especially the boy would like to gain a bit more. Junk food is out of question, as he actually loses weight on that, goes right through him, which is quite common. If you want to lose, junk makes you fat, want to gain, junk goes through you. Hate the stuff. 

 

Root veggies are a good idea. Potatoes, too, right?

post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thank you, all, for the good ideas! I thought it was so strange to be losing weight on this diet but it makes sense about the ketosis, motherhendoula.

I have started adding more root veggies - including A LOT of sweet potatoes - & some beans. But I'm already eating a ton of carrots & beets. It's such a trade off because I've been feeling a bit bloated & not as energetic but that could also be due to a spate of travel & schedule upheavals lately. Once I get into a better routine I'll be able to really tell how much of the starchy foods my body can handle. I have done a tiny bit of beans (soaked) previously & I've done well with those. I also like the idea of eating the coconut & not just the oil - more coconut flakes in everything!

MayaT, how's it going for you? Was your nutritionist able to help you at all (I know it takes a bit of time).

EineMutti, have you found the beans & root veggies to help with your children?

Thank you so much!!!
post #8 of 14

Had a stomach bug in the house and the kids lost too much. Again. So did I. On the chicken broth just now, but will see next week. 

 

Hope you get on well!

post #9 of 14
post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks all for the advice! I have been able to maintain my weight with eating more carbs from legal high-carb veggies & fruits & honey. I've probably cut back a little on the fat intake just because fat is so filling & I need room to eat carb! All the advice here has been super helpful!!
post #11 of 14

t2009, I am mostly raw paleo and have been for years. I am at the low end of my weight recommendation. This is not unhealthy. One of the benefits of paleo / low carb / CRON is that you attain metabolic efficiency. It becomes much more important as you age (I'm 45) to keep your weight low and avoid taxing your organs.

 

In time you could try adding back in some fat and lower the carbs a little at a time. I eat less than 100g carbs each day, usually around 60g. My weight has been stable throughout. I think you may have had a metabolic transition that burned off a lot of fat. Much of that fat could have been internal, in which case it was great that you lost it! If you work out or exercise, you will put on muscle weight which will keep you looking slim but boost your weight a little.

 

Be sure you are getting enough protein. I think recs are too low for women. Protein will keep you out of deep ketosis, build muscle, satisfy carb cravings, and fill you up. I eat 75-85g protein a day, about twice the rec for my body and age. It's not very much, about 2 normal servings of meat per day.


Edited by PumaBearclan - 2/19/14 at 8:08am
post #12 of 14
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Originally Posted by PumaBearclan View Post
 

t2009, I am mostly raw paleo and have been for years. I am at the low end of my weight recommendation. This is not unhealthy. One of the benefits of paleo / low carb / CRON is that you attain metabolic efficiency. It becomes much more important as you age (I'm 45) to keep your weight low and avoid taxing your organs.

 

In time you could try adding back in some fat and lower the carbs a little at a time. I eat less than 100g carbs each day, usually around 60g. My weight has been stable throughout. I think you may have had a metabolic transition that burned off a lot of fat. Much of that fat could have been internal, in which case it was great that you lost it! If you work out or exercise, you will put on muscle weight which will keep you looking slim but boost your weight a little.

 

Be sure you are getting enough protein. I think recs are too low for women. Protein will keep you out of deep ketosis, build muscle, satisfy carb cravings, and fill you up. I eat 75-85g protein a day, about twice the rec for my body and age. It's not very much, about 2 normal servings of meat per day.

 

I think this thread is about upping the carbs in a good way. Being on the lower end of weight recommendation is fine, but being way below and feeling bad physically is NOT.

 

Blueberries, strawberries, raspberries and honey are working well for us. Ancient food, really.

post #13 of 14

I'm just offering a different approach for consideration rather than adding more carbs - more protein and healthy weight with lower carbs, since you asked: Is it possible to be healthy & pretty darn small? Is this something I need to worry about? What can I add to my diet to gain weight? Questions not about upping carbs specifically but addressing weight and health. There are other solutions than substituting honey for fat; just wanted to mention.

post #14 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks so much for the ideas & discussion. It's good to hear different points of view, PumaBearClan & EineMutti. It's funny but I think you may have put your finger on my issues, PumaBearClan, as to losing a ton of weight due to a change in metabolism. It was still more than I was comfortable with so I'm grateful to have stabilized. But I also noticed that the positive effects of the SCD diet tapered off as well (cycle is crazy, crazier than before I started, other GI stuff was ok but not great)... I was feeling like I just stalled out. I think changing probiotics is helping me get back on track. Also my body is now swinging again away from the carbs toward fat & protein. I'm just going with it for now & trying to stay positive & patient (which is a challenge)!!

EineMutti, how's your family doing? I remember you all got sick a while back?

Thanks, all!
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