It just all seems a little crazy.
It just all seems a little crazy.
I do not see anything crazy in protecting my child and others around him. Modern vaccines have fewer antigens. So, even thought a child getting more shots than in 1960's, the burden is less. Measles is not a benign disease.
"About 30% of measles cases develop one or more complications, including
These complications are more common among children under 5 years of age and adults over 20 years old.
Even in previously healthy children, measles can be a serious illness requiring hospitalization. As many as 1 out of every 20 children with measles gets pneumonia, and about 1 child in every 1,000 who get measles will develop encephalitis. (This is an inflammation of the brain that can lead to convulsions, and can leave the child deaf or mentally retarded.) For every 1,000 children who get measles, 1 or 2 will die from it. Measles also can make a pregnant woman have a miscarriage, give birth prematurely, or have a low-birth-weight baby."http://www.cdc.gov/measles/about/complications.html
No one thinks that vaccines are 100%. But given risks and benefits I go with vaccine. I am not between a rock and hard place. I am between a hard place and a tiny pebble. I read many studies and I talked to immunologists at the world class university. We know enough to know that the measles itself is more dangerous than vaccine.
Vaccines do not make immune system weaker but quiet an opposite. Newer studies show some amazing benefits
I work with thousands of people. I know only one who had a really bad reactions to a vaccine. Myself. It was discovered that I am allergic to a preservative. I get it preservative free vaccines.
Can you post a link to that Quebec study? It is not coming up in my search.
Delaying vaccinations actually increases rate of side effects. This is really fascinating.
I would be concerned about a child getting 3 MMR shots. MMR is one of the more reactive vaccines, and has a fairly significant febrile seizure rate.
I have also seen the data out of Quebec, and yes, it does seem that those vaccinated early might have less immunity.
I have seen the study (or article) on how early vaccination leads to less febrile seizures. it sounds nice, until you realize that those fevers are signs the body is mounting a good immune response to the vaccines, so younger kids might not be as prone to fevers (and thus febrile seizures) as they are not mounting as good a response.
If I were doing MMR at all, I would do it between 3-9, and I would check titres after one shot. A second is often not needed. If I did not want to wait until 3, I would do it after 15 months and check tires.
A little OT, but yes, I think vaccine policy that is over the top pushes a small percentage of the people away or on a road to questioning things.
Maybe she does not think her kids will get measles. I am not sure where she lives, but the average number of measles cases in the USA is around 60 a year. The arguement that the rate is low because of vaccines does not change the fact her child (depending on where she lives) might be extremely unlikely to get the disease.
Let's not forget about SSPE either. 4-18 per 100 000 measles infections, which is still much higher than fatal side effects from vaccinations. SSPE is always deadly. My friend's boy died from it this year, he has been in a coma for nine years after onset of symptoms (he got infected from an unvaxxed 10-year-old at his peds office).
Let's not forget about SSPE either. 4-18 per 100 000 measles infections, which is still much higher than fatal side effects from vaccinations. SSPE is always deadly. My friend's boy died from it this year, he has been in a coma for nine years after onset of symptoms (he got infected from an unvaxxed 10-year-old at his peds office). Sleep tight, Micha.
I went to the link, and this is what it had to say:
Analysis of data from an outbreak of measles in the United States during 1989-1991 suggests a rate of 4-11 cases of SSPE per 100,000 cases of measles. A risk factor for developing this disease is measles infection at an early age. Studies in the United Kingdom indicate that 18 out of every 100,000 people who get measles when they are less than a year old will develop SSPE. This is compared to 1.1 per 100,000 in those infected after 5 years of age.
First off the line in blue is odd. It might just be sloppy wording (if it confirms what other data says, then it is probably valid) - but still. According to the pink book, there weren't even 100 000 cases of measle in 1989-1991. There were about 55 000 cases in those 3 years. I am not sure you can get firm rates from such a low number - it might be an outlier.
I found the bolded interesting - SSPE has a higher risk in those under 1, and is quite low in those over one.
Sorry for your loss :(