or Connect
Mothering › Mothering Forums › Baby › Baby Health › Vaccinations › I'm Not Vaccinating › are there people on here who did zero vaccinations for their kids ever?
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

are there people on here who did zero vaccinations for their kids ever? - Page 3

post #41 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by ocelotmom View Post
 

I'm in a bit of a bad mood and probably came across badly. I've been seeing increasing blind pro-vax sentiment lately that is pissing me off (eg. comments on a local news station blaming a TB outbreak on non-vaxxers. Not part of the standard CDC vaccine schedule, guys). My irritation is mainly aimed at people who imply that vaccines make people healthy, and I definitely don't think that's what the OP was saying. I think it's sad that people have doubts that a non-vaccinated child could be overall healthy, and irresponsible of vaccine promoters to imply that vaccines do more to promote overall health than they do, though I'm not anti-vax by any means, either.

 

Thanks for clarifying :)

post #42 of 76
Thread Starter 

OP here. I did not state my position but to state it now I was looking for support around non vaxing.

post #43 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snapdragon View Post
 

OP here. I did not state my position but to state it now I was looking for support around non vaxing.

You can consider my comment supportive, because that's how it was intended. I just got a little ranty.

post #44 of 76

Completely non-vaxxing here. My oldest is six. She hasn't been ill with any vaccine available ailments as far as I know. She is very healthy other than having a sensitive stomach which seems to be a hereditary thing on my husbands side of the family. 

I would hope most people on the not vaccinating board would be practicing that.

post #45 of 76

There was a whole 15-year study done by an Australian, Dr. Isaac Golden, comparing health outcomes for children not vaccinated, fully or partially conventionally vaccinated.  The non-vaxxed kids used homeopathic "vaccinations" (homeoprophylaxis) or homeopathic treatment.  Here is a link to some information: http://www.lifehealthchoices.com/the-center/health-options/homeoprophylaxis.

 

Of course, the study's participants can't be contacted, but there's another study being done in the US by another homeopath.  She has a blog on http://vaccinefree.wordpress.com/ and maybe if you post there, someone could respond.

 

Dr. Golden found children who went through the study using homeoprophylaxis and not being vaccinated had the best outcomes.  I looked into all this myself before became a supervising homeopath in the current US study.

 

Ruth Pearson Smith

post #46 of 76

I have a teenager and a tween who have never been vaccinated. I, myself have not ever received any vaccines either. I had the chicken pox as a child and have had a flu or two but none of us have ever contracted anything else that's vaccinated for. Also we very rarely get sick (kids have had less than a handful of colds in their lives.) I'm not certain that our lack of sickness is related to choosing not to vaccinate or to our diet. We're vegan (well they are, I occasionally slip and have something with dairy ingredients at restaurants) and I really try to limit the mucous forming foods that we consume.

post #47 of 76

zero here

post #48 of 76

Eldest has a couple, the younger 3 are completely vax free and very healthy.

post #49 of 76

Zero vaccines for my 2 kiddos, aged 4 and 9mos. 

post #50 of 76

None for my two kids, now age 5 and 8. They are healthy, no allergies or asthma. Of course they get colds, flus and they have had a few ear infections. My son got a rash that the Dr. thought might be measles, it was treated homeopathically and went away quickly and painlessly.  My daughter had chickenpox, a very mild case that caused no problems.

 

One thing I want to point out, is that I don't think we need to be so afraid of childhood illnesses. The amount of fear mongering that goes on  now, even about chicken pox, is incredible. We actually need to contract some illnesses to be able to strengthen our immune systems, to live in our environment which we share with millions of microorganisms.

 

There is so much about our immune systems that we still don't understand, yet we are bombarding tiny babies with large numbers of vaccines, it's a lot for their very young immune systems to manage, and we really don't understand how this affects a growing immune system, cumulatively, when we keep adding more and more shots to the roster. What bothers me the most is that we are demonized for just asking the questions, wanting the research to be more thorough.

post #51 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeoMom View Post
 

 What bothers me the most is that we are demonized for just asking the questions, wanting the research to be more thorough.

 

 

This truly bothers me the most. Why do we get so much hate for simple just asking questions, doing our own research, and trying to be good parents? And yet, there are people all over that bully and hurt their kids, neglect them, buy iphones and rims with their welfare money instead of providing for their children and no one says anything about them? The vaccine questioners are so vehemently targeted. It's awful. 

 

AND, if you happen to believe in God and are a non-vaccinator? You are treated like rats. Worse than that. You are fleas on rats, You're amoebas on fleas on rats. I mean...we're too low for even the dogs to bite. (Altered Grease quote for the win!)

post #52 of 76

I've done none thus far for my 22 month old but she's sick again with her second hear infection in 22 months.  we did all the alternative stuff, breastfeed for 20 months, raised uber organic and she's the same way, tired homeopathy and she ended up with antibiotics both times.  this second time she's now been sick for over 8 days and may end in the ER to hydrate. so I'm kind of trying to stay strong on my decision but her friends that are vaxxed and eat crap have never been sick.  and now my kid that i make everything from scratch from, stay at home, etc, no dairy...has been sicker than all of them.  trying to believe what I'm doing is right...

post #53 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by amietess View Post
 

I've done none thus far for my 22 month old but she's sick again with her second hear infection in 22 months.  we did all the alternative stuff, breastfeed for 20 months, raised uber organic and she's the same way, tired homeopathy and she ended up with antibiotics both times.  this second time she's now been sick for over 8 days and may end in the ER to hydrate. so I'm kind of trying to stay strong on my decision but her friends that are vaxxed and eat crap have never been sick.  and now my kid that i make everything from scratch from, stay at home, etc, no dairy...has been sicker than all of them.  trying to believe what I'm doing is right...

I know. It's hard.. This is the way I think about it: What floats around right now are more poignant viruses that ever before because of vaccine shedding and vaccinations in general. Our kids are catching these bugs and they are nasty. My boy is 9 months old, breastmilk fed (I pump exclusively and am donated milk by a family member who had her baby a few months after mine) and he's been sick twice. But this is the point! Our kids are getting sick and their immune systems are being built with pure concrete. 

 

Not vaccinating and being really healthy and organic does not mean our kids will never get sick. It just means that our kids immune systems are being built the right way, slowly and surely, will be so strong that later on, they will be able to fight off more serious illnesses and live healthier lives in general. The immune systems of vaccinated kids are synthetically created, it may help now but not in the long run.

post #54 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by amietess View Post
 

I've done none thus far for my 22 month old but she's sick again with her second hear infection in 22 months.  we did all the alternative stuff, breastfeed for 20 months, raised uber organic and she's the same way, tired homeopathy and she ended up with antibiotics both times.  this second time she's now been sick for over 8 days and may end in the ER to hydrate. so I'm kind of trying to stay strong on my decision but her friends that are vaxxed and eat crap have never been sick.  and now my kid that i make everything from scratch from, stay at home, etc, no dairy...has been sicker than all of them.  trying to believe what I'm doing is right...

Being sick creates health.  In order to have a fully functioning immune system you need exposure to things that will test it.  Some kids will always be "sicker" than others regardelss of all other factors, thst's just life and the roll of the genetic dice.  On a side note, have you tried chiropractic?  Ear infections are part of a long list of problems chiropractic is proven to eliminate.  My DD is 26mos and has been getting adjustments since she was 6weeks - no ear infections in spite of "family history" from both myself and DH.

post #55 of 76
Quote:
Originally Posted by amietess View Post
 

I've done none thus far for my 22 month old but she's sick again with her second hear infection in 22 months.  we did all the alternative stuff, breastfeed for 20 months, raised uber organic and she's the same way, tired homeopathy and she ended up with antibiotics both times.  this second time she's now been sick for over 8 days and may end in the ER to hydrate. so I'm kind of trying to stay strong on my decision but her friends that are vaxxed and eat crap have never been sick.  and now my kid that i make everything from scratch from, stay at home, etc, no dairy...has been sicker than all of them.  trying to believe what I'm doing is right...

I know it is hard.  Hugs, mama.

 

My youngest was born with a birth defect.  I took excellent care of myself during pregnancy, but she was still born with a birth defect.  I think we can increase our chances our kids will be healthy through our choices, but not guarantee it.  

 

I do believe our choices often make a difference.  The birth defect my daughter had tends to result in smallish babies.  She was small - 6 pounds - but hardly the 4 pounder some are with her condition.  Thing like not smoking and eating well helped to give her a good birth weight.  She also had an incredibly easy birth, some of which is due to luck and genetics, but some of it was due to picking a good team, having a great attitude, etc.  As children with her condition go, she has had a fairly easy path - some of which is luck but some comes down to  choices.  

 

We may not be able to change whether or not they are prone to ear infections or whatever, but we can do our best and know that we have tried.  Good health choices are never wrong.  

 

I would not jump to conclusions on a 22 month old needing antibiotics for the second time, for what it is worth.  Twice does not a pattern make.

post #56 of 76

My husband and brother in law were never vaccinated. They had zero problems. We chose to not vaccinate our son. At 8 mo, he has been very healthy.

 

I do have a question for anyone reading....my mom and her husband are traveling to Haiti to volunteer in a hospital. They have both been fully vaccinated. My concern is for when they return, has anyone dealt with this and what steps did you take to protect your child? Should my mom and her husband get tested for diseases when they return? 

 

Thank you for any input!

post #57 of 76

3 Children here all non vaxxed, the eldest is 6.

We have had a few mild colds and last year all 3 had chicken pox and unconfirmed whooping cough, as did a number of their vaccinated peers, in fact both diseases were passed onto us by children who had been vaccinated against them but got the illness anyway.

Other than that we have had no medical or health issues

post #58 of 76

My kids are 11 and 8. No vaccines ever. I haven't had any in 23 years. Mine have only ever had colds. No ear infections, no meds, no antibiotics, nothing....

post #59 of 76
Subbing
post #60 of 76
Quote:
These posts are quite reassuring. Do any of you ever concern yourselves with shedding from recently vaccinated kiddos? Anyone ever had their child get a "mysterious rash" about 2 weeks after playing with a recently vaccinated child? I'm interested because it causes me some anxiety.

 

Not really. I guess we aren't really around other kids that closely, although I don't particularly appreciate that they give out things like FluMist in the stores. The one shedding concern I do have is about smallpox because my children are at specific risk from being in close contact with anyone who has been recently vaxxed, but since it is primarily only given to military and we don't currently have any friends/family enlisted I am not fretting over it. My biggest concern right now is actually with hcp's who have received the pertussis vax, not because it is live (eta: the current vax is not live), but because it doesn't prevent transmission and can apperantly reduce symptoms enough that the person may not know they have it and will come to work with "just a little cough" and spread it. We have a member here whose daughter contracted it from her NICU nurse.

New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: I'm Not Vaccinating
Mothering › Mothering Forums › Baby › Baby Health › Vaccinations › I'm Not Vaccinating › are there people on here who did zero vaccinations for their kids ever?