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post #21 of 36
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Hi All, I've removed some posts from this thread that in violation of Mothering's User Agreement and the forum guidelines. Please keep both in mind when posting. As a reminder:

 

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In addition, please keep in mind that I'm Not Vaccinating is a support-only forum for those not or those seriously considering not vaccinating. Here we host discussion of issues that arise when choosing to not vaccinate and sharing of resources and information that are related to the no-vax decision.

 

@ummlily, please check your PM box for a message from me.

 

@MaggieLC, would you please edit your post above to remove the quote from the post that has now been removed? Thank you in advance. :)

 

And, now back to the thread! Has anyone else lost clients due to a no-vax status? Any suggestions or support for the OP?

 

Edited to add: If there are any concerns about other posts on this thread, please flag them rather than posting to the thread to respond to them.


Done and done. Glad to remove.

 

Thank you! :)

post #22 of 36

Thank  you @MaggieLC! :o

post #23 of 36
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Also, I got an email saying that someone gave me a Reputation.....what does this mean exactly?

 

@jenveg618, in brief, reputation is a way for another member to say that they appreciate your post or question. There's a full explanation here. :)

post #24 of 36

nm

 

I've already addressed this thing. I was terribly misunderstood. If the rewording of the same question and the same attack would STOP like the Moderator asked, that would be best.

post #25 of 36
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nm

 

I've already addressed this thing. I was terribly misunderstood. If the rewording of the same question and the same attack would STOP like the Moderator asked, that would be best.

It made sense to me :-)

post #26 of 36
I am a non vaxer so I'm not promoting them at all. But just so you know you can have pertussis more than once.
post #27 of 36
So I've been hearing and reading. My Ped doesn't evidently know this.

The latest research says you csn get a good 30 years immunity from having the actual disease. I got it in my 40s, so I'm most likely good until my mid 70s.Better odds than the vax, which might give one as much as 10 years, maybe 3-6, and possibly no good immunity at all, but with false sense of security that you are protected.
post #28 of 36
Sorry I was trying to be helpful
post #29 of 36
I know you were. No problem. My Ped misinformed us. We're protected for probably 30 years. But it may not be life long.
post #30 of 36

If I were you, I would be angry and feel a twinge to email preachy things to her.  BUT, I would stop myself and use it as an opportunity to educate with sound, non-inflammatory information.  It was actually MY birth doula who introduced me to the idea of delayed or non-vaccinating.  I was sick over the idea of having to do it and lo and behold, her own 8 month old was selective/delay vaxxed.  She inspired me so much... I ended up becoming a birth doula too.  You have an opportunity here if done right (and she has to be receptive, of course).

 

I also disagree that saying, "I have all the necessary vaccines" is lying.  I say "they're all up to date" when asked about my children as well... which is true, imo, even though they've never had a single one.

post #31 of 36
Hey ladies, I'm with everyone on this, and I agree vaxing is a choice. But I guess trying to make light, smile, this thread made it to the skeptical ob. Everyone say HI AMY! And no, it's a flame on the women here so it's not flattering. But I find it funny she has to troll these threads for something to talk about on her blog. I do not vaccinate and understand those that do and do not. I am 100% on the cool with everyone. But after you get past the rudeness and just...if I ever want to be yelled at, I'd go to her site (she's not talking to me, but whenever I read her blog I feel like she's yelling. I can feel her yell through her keyboard :P) after all that I'd still laugh.

To the OP- you are an amazing woman, you help other woman and you should be proud. I understand it hurts to lose a client to something that should be a choice. But next time it's brought up with a client, may I offer to maybe ask them how they feel about the advice they were given on the vaccines? Maybe ask how they feel about it, not so much the doctor. After all, it's her child, not the doctors.



Oh,an d Dr.Amy, I can be found around the interweb. And I do appreciate your site, you have allowed me to get into the minds of women when things have gone wrong during birth (mainly, mostly, pretty much all home births). I understand that you do not, align, yourself with the home birth or much natural birth hoo ha, and i understand that too. It's okay though. The Buddha teaches us that, those that hurt others, whether by actions or words, have been hurt themselves sometime in their lives. I'm sorry you we're hurt by something(probably not even birth related!) or someone in your life, but I love you. I love you an d your whole pile of what is Dr. Amy.

To the ladies here: keep doing what you do. You're awesome. You are moms. You try to understand this crazy thing we call life. It's hard, it's brutal, it's wonderful, and it's rewarding. But in the end, we're all human, eyes, ears, heart, nose, mouth, blood pumping all that, and I love you all. Have a great night ladies.

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post #32 of 36
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Hey ladies, I'm with everyone on this, and I agree vaxing is a choice. But I guess trying to make light, smile, this thread made it to the skeptical ob. Everyone say HI AMY! And no, it's a flame on the women here so it's not flattering. But I find it funny she has to troll these threads for something to talk about on her blog. I do not vaccinate and understand those that do and do not. I am 100% on the cool with everyone. But after you get past the rudeness and just...if I ever want to be yelled at, I'd go to her site (she's not talking to me, but whenever I read her blog I feel like she's yelling. I can feel her yell through her keyboard :P) after all that I'd still laugh.

To the OP- you are an amazing woman, you help other woman and you should be proud. I understand it hurts to lose a client to something that should be a choice. But next time it's brought up with a client, may I offer to maybe ask them how they feel about the advice they were given on the vaccines? Maybe ask how they feel about it, not so much the doctor. After all, it's her child, not the doctors.



Oh,an d Dr.Amy, I can be found around the interweb. And I do appreciate your site, you have allowed me to get into the minds of women when things have gone wrong during birth (mainly, mostly, pretty much all home births). I understand that you do not, align, yourself with the home birth or much natural birth hoo ha, and i understand that too. It's okay though. The Buddha teaches us that, those that hurt others, whether by actions or words, have been hurt themselves sometime in their lives. I'm sorry you we're hurt by something(probably not even birth related!) or someone in your life, but I love you. I love you an d your whole pile of what is Dr. Amy.

To the ladies here: keep doing what you do. You're awesome. You are moms. You try to understand this crazy thing we call life. It's hard, it's brutal, it's wonderful, and it's rewarding. But in the end, we're all human, eyes, ears, heart, nose, mouth, blood pumping all that, and I love you all. Have a great night ladies.

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I had been reading this and didn't know the Dr who was being "spoken" about - WOW- I found her site - scary! OP - I could not comment because I have not dealt with this, but it sad what happened - sorry to read about it.

post #33 of 36
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I had been reading this and didn't know the Dr who was being "spoken" about - WOW- I found her site - scary! OP - I could not comment because I have not dealt with this, but it sad what happened - sorry to read about it.

Yah, I was told about her but just got around to looking it up last night, holy crap!  Guess some people really do have nothing better to do, but I shut her crap down real quick too much trash talk, all garbage and nothing worthy of my time reading.

post #34 of 36
Hey Mamas, my take on this is that one can be helpful and loving and use truth and caring words or one can be intentionally hurtful and wallow in negativity and end up only refusing to heal by using inflammatory language and hatred and only drag others down to that particular circle of hell for company.

When we choose mental and emotional and physical health over hate and rumor and innuendo we bring other people into the light with positivity.

Dwelling in negativity will prevent healing and only keep us sad and bitter and only find temporary "joy" when attacking and hurting others. This type of thinking and action speaks to a certain sadmess darkness and even perhaps depravity of the soul. It makes me sad that anyone, let alone a mother would immerse herself in such damaging negativity.

I'm glad to see so many positive loving and forward thinking mothers here reject that particular kind of pathetic self inflicted darkness!

I applaud the women who reject certain damaging kinds of inflammatory hatefulness.

It gladdens the heart to see so many choosing health healing and joy instead of darkness.

MDC Mamas who choose the Light rock.
post #35 of 36

this doesn't belong here really but I feel those who posted here might want to hear this - a "certain" OB talks on this - I heard it this morning! uhoh3.gif ahhhhhhhhh PUNKE!

 

http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/thepulse/item/62755-hunting-for-a-home-birth 

post #36 of 36
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Originally Posted by MaggieLC View Post

Hey Mamas, my take on this is that one can be helpful and loving and use truth and caring words or one can be intentionally hurtful and wallow in negativity and end up only refusing to heal by using inflammatory language and hatred and only drag others down to that particular circle of hell for company.

When we choose mental and emotional and physical health over hate and rumor and innuendo we bring other people into the light with positivity.

Dwelling in negativity will prevent healing and only keep us sad and bitter and only find temporary "joy" when attacking and hurting others. This type of thinking and action speaks to a certain sadmess darkness and even perhaps depravity of the soul. It makes me sad that anyone, let alone a mother would immerse herself in such damaging negativity.

I'm glad to see so many positive loving and forward thinking mothers here reject that particular kind of pathetic self inflicted darkness!

I applaud the women who reject certain damaging kinds of inflammatory hatefulness.

It gladdens the heart to see so many choosing health healing and joy instead of darkness.

MDC Mamas who choose the Light rock.


Wow, I just love your post. This is so absolutely true. I felt so touched by this. Thanks for sharing.

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