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The Saner TTC and Graduates -- The Beaver Moon - Page 7post #121 of 21312/8/13 at 4:29pmpost #122 of 21312/8/13 at 4:38pmpost #123 of 21312/8/13 at 5:05pmOh Mamablue I hope it is just a hematoma like your Doc possibly thinks. Did you say you spotted with pregnancy before? I know how you feel....it is grueling waiting and not knowing if your pregnancy is healthy or not. It kills me because I am a need-to-know-now type person. I don't do well patiently waiting especially when it comes to a little unborn life at stake (and my body)....ugh. I am so glad you're able to go in for an u/s tomorrow. I am still tempted to do that but not sure if I will.
I noticed my cervix is pointed down and more open now. I had the same feeling, that I was getting ready to miscarry. I have been so sick today so missed my dose of progesterone this afternoon and by the time we got home and showered I realized it had been all day. I hope I didn't cause it to happen. My boobs have felt so flappy and empty...that's another red flag. They're normally full and heavy with pregnancy. I don't know....
Sorry you got a BFN Chuord...maybe just too early? I never get positives until at least 11 dpo. I know some do earlier. Good for you- keeping your positive zen attitude. You really are the zen poster child of the month. ;-)
SCJP yes that is a symptom I believe. Mine always used to get itchy and strange feeling.
I may call the doctor's office tomorrow. I am a little worried what my charge will be. I know with a pregnancy they charge you 20% of the estimated bill. I pay it up front and then everything is covered except any additional charge like a c-section. So anyway I wonder if I miscarry how they'll bill me. I have no idea how much an u/s would be, but I imagine not cheap. (Sigh)
We have eaten out every day this weekend. I must gather the strength and stomach to go grocery shopping and actually buy some food. I have just been picking up milk, cereal, snacks for the kids, etc. Every time I look at food my stomach turns. I wish those symptoms were a positive pregnancy sign but unfortunately I think it is just a side effect of the progesterone supplements.
I hope everyone has had a good weekend. :-)post #124 of 21312/8/13 at 5:50pmI have also been nauseas all day had a headache and my boobs are very sensitive. I really really hope this means something. My sister in law txt me yesterday and asked if I was preg I said not that I know of cuz she has been getting morning sickness for a week and she can't have babies now cuz she got her tubes tied lol. And I remember her telling me when I was preg with my son she had morning sickness and knew someone was preg in the family and I ended up being. Lol so hopefully all this means something. I'm gonna test when I get paid on Friday I know long way a way but I have no money til then so gona just waitpost #125 of 21312/8/13 at 5:50pmThread StarterI'm sorry for those I miss, heading to bed but wanted to respond to a couple things --
Mamablue - I am so sorry for this stress! I'm really hoping that all is well tomorrow. I had some bright red bleeding with DS #1 (and virtually no nausea/heartburn), but he was fine. It was so scary though, particularly coming right after my first loss. Please feel free to vent/process/discuss however is helpful for you here. Thinking of you!
Wengrin -- If you're having your u/s at a hospital, check out their charity care program. The income limits are more flexible than you'd think; it has saved us in the past. They won't advertise this to you, but there should be info on it if you search their website.post #126 of 21312/8/13 at 6:15pmThanks faith, mama blue and Wengrin... I had low expectations as it is 5 days before AF is due... But I felt I had to take one before the docs appointment... Still have time before RE...
Looking forward to your results mama blue - my gut is that all is well... Hugs on the stress
Wengrin - hugs, you are in an awful place right now, I'm hoping so much you get both resolution and a desire to eat - I can't think of a worse combo! You are a Trojan!
Primal - you being so amazingly useful and supportive to us all - hoping you are traveling well? How long till you're ultra sound?
Faith what about you?
Oxford did you get cross hairs? If so what dpo?post #127 of 21312/8/13 at 6:32pmI still have to find a midwife/ob. My ob/gyn is mainly focusing on post-meno ladies. There are midwives at her practice but whoever is working when you go into labor is who delivers you, so that's probably out. I've been recommended two other ladies, but I think they do home births only and we live about 6 feet away from our neighbor. August with no air conditioning means windows open.... Nope
I don't know if it's the hormones but I've been totally freaking out. I wish I had morning sickness or at least as many symptoms as I felt yesterday. I just have mostly period-ish cramping and sore breasts. I wish I had seen this worrying coming. I didn't realize I could be MORE anxiously obsessed! I've cried over this alone (sobbed really, and other things have hit me too) at least six times in the past two days. oypost #128 of 21312/8/13 at 8:29pmpost #129 of 21312/8/13 at 8:31pmpost #130 of 21312/8/13 at 8:56pm
Faith, maybe you would be able to borrow a air conditioner from someone during that time? Or get one on Craigslist! If you do it before it gets hot you could get a good deal. Women have home births in apartments, so you could definitely do it if you wanted. Have you seen "Call the Midwife"? It used to be totally normal to hear neighbor's birth song :) Is this your first? You may not be a loud laborer, either. I barely made any noise with my daughter and hummed "Sweet Baby James" with my son, but that was about all as far as noise goes. There was a woman giving birth below me who was much louder!
Chourd, still early for a BFP! Mine was barely there at 10 DPO. Barely. Still, I know it can be discouraging to get the one line. How are you feeling?
(Ugh the batteries on my keyboard are dying and making it very hard to type)
MamaBlue, I am so sorry for the stress you are experiencing. I agree about what others have said as far as every pregnancy being different. I was so worried with DS because I didn't throw up much, whereas with DD I threw up every morning. Fingers crossed it is a hematoma, as you said. Are you checking tomorrow?
Wengrin, sending lots of love and light your way. I wish I knew something better to say, I just can't imagine how you feel right now. Being so sick, possibly from the progesterone, just adds to the anguish and unsure feeling, I'm sure. I hope you have (good) news soon. I know it can be hard to keep hope alive... I felt so disconnected from DS during the weeks I was waiting for the ultrasound to check and see if he was okay. I even thought about selling the car seat I had bought for him. It's hellish. I wish things were different for you right now.
AFM, with the health concerns I feel bad complaining about anything, but I've just been so depressed. There's almost nothing on the market house wise right now. I hate living apart from DH, in this weird in-between land. I miss having a real kitchen and space. I have no motivation to get up or go out during the day. I've stayed in my pjs all day a few days, which is not like me at all. It's difficult with Malcolm right now, both his behavior and the fact that I would really like to work on night weaning, possibly moving him to his own bed, potty training... but I don't feel like it's a good idea when things are in such upheaval. I think it would just be setting him up for frustration and failure. And there's just no end in sight right now. So yeah, feeling looooow down. I don't want to waste the time writing it all out, but living with my mom is not great for me mental health wise(although there can be some very nice aspects) or DD. It becomes this weird thing where she's always up there and I feel like I've lost her, essentially. Boundaries are an issue.
Womb-fruit related, I was 7 weeks on Saturday and baby is the size of a blueberry, apparently. I'm feeling tired and sick, but not too bad. My skin is a mess. I get cravings and then hate the food after one bite. First appointment on the 16th. I'm going to call tomorrow, though, so I can get a referral to schedule the Harmony Screening and first Ultrasound. I am hoping to hold off on telling DD until we know the gender, which the Harmony Screening will tell us.post #131 of 21312/8/13 at 9:08pmMareseatoats--that sounds like a crazy time! Is there ever a good time to move with little ones of different ages? I hope you guys find something soon! It has to be so hard to be apart from one another on top of everything with the kids.
Maybe the air conditioner could work for the home birth! Someone gave us a window one that sits on the floor and really works really well. I had totally forgotten about it. Thanks for the suggestion!post #132 of 21312/9/13 at 1:07amMorning,
Mamablue- hang in there my love. Keep breathing deeply. That little one is a fighter! When is your scan? We are here for you
Wengrin- how are you doing? Have you decided to wait until your next scan or go in early? I don't know how you are holding your sanity. Get as much help as you can and don't put pressure on yourself. This uncertainty is going to be the hardest time possible, so be gentle, let go if domestic stuff and be kind to yourself x
Chuord- sorry to hear about your bfn, it's still so early though, maybe implantation is still happening. Hang in there until AF is due and you may get some good news. If not, you have got the cavalry arriving to tell you what is going on! On the blood tests- LH, FSH, androgens, estrodiol, adrenal, pituitary and most important - an ultrasound. They can tell so much from that. They may want you to do a dye test too.
Mares- sorry things are so down for you. Are you still in close touch with DH? Can you plan treats with him so that you have something to look forward to? Little phone chats during the day? Picture messages? Old fashioned love letters through the mail? Get creative to occupy your mind and full that space next to you. On DS, can you pick one little project to work on together, weaning or potty training? He might like the one to one attention and feeling grown up. Wengrin went through this with her little DS so might be able to give you some top tips.
Faith- hang in there! Those crazy hormones are tossing you all around. Just keep that little baby in mind :-)
Afm- I am 5dpo. I think my o was on day 12- earliest ever. I hope the drugs are rebalancing things and this is a good sign like it was for Mamablue :-) I have been reading so much about the metabolic pathway for our ovaries and it is so finely balanced. I am eating all the right things and supplementing like mad. I just hope all this helps. If I don't get pregnant this month, it is clomid and follicle tracking. Anyone any experience with clomid? I read so many mixed reviews (damn professor google!).
Hang in there ladies. I'm sending out calm vibes to us all today. It feels like our little group is in a tough unsure place. Let's stick together and we'll all get through it.
Extra baby dust!post #133 of 21312/9/13 at 4:10amMorning Oxford! Thanks for the info... I took a pic and will make sure I check them against what he suggests.
I think your suggestions to everyone are fantastic... Mares see what you can do with the one on one communication with dh, I love letters lol.
Oxford re the diet etc - so much work right?! I've stopped most dairy, wheat and yeast... Am trying to eat only hormone free meat... The dairy I eat is organic... Lol and when I can't be bothered to cook dh suggests take out... To which I reply - I can't nothing works!
The things we do right oh and cutting out more sugar after the high AMH I lost a kg last week... All so strange this journey! But you gotta love it!
Mama blue mentioned before about her love affair with clomid and how fab it was - she's your lady!
I agree wishing everyone a happy healing day today... I look forward to waking up to the chats
Fx mama blue! Can't wait to hear the results and to know baby is ok.post #134 of 21312/9/13 at 6:26amOxford- great, great advice to everyone. So true...
Mamablue I hope you get some good news today or whenever you go for your scan!
Thanks, Primal- I will check the hospitals website and see if we would qualify.
Mares, poor thing. I know this must be completely depressing. The "no end in sight" is the worst. That's the worst. I know when I had to stay with my parents it was not fun. Once you've lived your own separate life it is impossible to mesh your lives again. Especially with 2 children of your own. I know what you mean about the struggles with DS...it is so hard when they still need so much from you (nursing, diapering etc) and you have this new life draining your energy. I had success night weaning first...then about 3 months later we talked up saying bye-bye to nursies and getting him a big boy (transition) toy. So one Friday on a long holiday weekend I took him to the store and we picked out his toy....and from that day on we promised no nursies....nurses went bye bye. So he asked a few times and we would just remind him. It really wasn't that bad at all. So he was obviously ready. Now potty training is still on my list...I haven't had success with that. I know the smell of it makes me want to vomit...even his wet diapers. I really hope that a house comes available for you guys soon. You need DH's support to tackle these issues.
Faith- you're going through the same hormonal ups and downs that we all went trhough. It is such a rollercoaster...
Good luck with your GP appt, Chuord. Hopefully you'll get a positive in the next few days. You're still really early....:-)post #135 of 21312/9/13 at 11:49amMare - I'm sorry you've been down. The hormonal changes from being pregnant and the living situation you're in would get many mamas down. The good news is that your situation is not permanent, and better times are ahead. Finding the right home takes time, and when you do, it'll have been worth the wait. Wengrins suggestions about weaning sound spot-on. I did something similar with my son. There was minimal drama and it passed quickly.
Chourd - There's still time for a positive test this cycle, but if it eludes you this time, you have a solid plan in place for the future. I am so happy to see things moving the the right direction for you and Oxford. Good things are coming your way, I am sure.
Faith - You're right on schedule for your worries. I think all of us mamas struggled around the 5/6 week mark. Be patient with yourself and find a good distraction, and the time will pass quicker. I picked up my knitting again. The more worry I have, the quicker I knit. As far as food goes, we live in San Diego, in the middle of a huge Iraqi population, and so we eat middle eastern food a lot. Anyway, my kids want me to pick up schwarma for them and I can't do it. The thought of meat being cut off that round thingy makes me want to hurl. lol. My husband is going to have to pick it up when I'm not around to see or smell it. Are there any foods that make you want to run the other way?
Oxford - Your words are always the right thing and the right time. Thank you. It sounds like your decision to adjust to metformin before starting Clomid was very wise. Clomid can bring on some lovely side effects like mood swings, hot flashes, and tireness, but you usually only have to take it for 5 days. Five days isn't too bad. Plus, you may not have any side effects at all. Mine were largely unnoticeable. Clomid's been around for years, and for good reason. It does it's job well.
Primal - How is your daughter doing? Is her tummy back to normal?
Wengrin - Are you going in for a scan? You are very much on my mind.
AFM - I had a scan this morning. My doctor was kind enough to squeeze me in before he headed off to an unexpected surgery. All is well with the baby. It looks like my placenta is setting up shop along the side of my uterus and an edge of it was getting too close to my cervix. So it bled some. My doctor said that there's no hematoma and that the placenta will be fine. I cannot tell you what a relief that is. I feel like a gorilla just climbed off my back, and I dodged a bullet at the same time. Thank you all so much for your positive thoughts, they really helped me to cope with the uncertainty I was feeling. Also, my SIL texted me a picture of her BFP this morning. I'm so happy for her. She's has had 3 losses (1 in the second trimester) since her last successful pregnancy, and I so desperately hope this is her take home baby. Her husband is a carrier for T13, so she has a stressful few weeks ahead of her until her Materni21 testing. I wish I had the power to guarantee her good outcome.post #136 of 21312/9/13 at 12:44pmThread Starter
Mamablue, I am so happy to hear good news from you! I've been checking in here all day (from work!) waiting for your update. I'm so glad your babe is okay.
And to answer your question before I forget, yes, DD is fine. Just a fluke thing that night. Toddler tummies are so funny, in my experience. She probably drank too much milk too fast.post #137 of 21312/9/13 at 2:13pmMama blue - woohoo, that is fantastic news... The emotional roller coaster is awfully rough - but when you get the good news reassurance it's almost like getting a brand new bfp it's so satisfying
Mares - just keep remembering that although you don't have as much time to 'hang out' with us we are all on your side and sending you love and support... I hope that knowledge helps when you are feeling worst... And as mama blue says here's to that bit of pg being over!
Wengrin - you are awesome! To have time to support us all while you are struggling yourself - magical momma! I so so hope the hospital will take you for that scan... Thanks for your kind words to me, I am still extremely hopeful, and will now wait to test... AF is due Friday or Saturday.... Hmmm maybe I'll risk a Thursday test lol...
Primal - I'm so glad we are staying in one group, thanks for being our zen anchor this last week lol and apologies up front - birth really terrifies me (I hate lack of control with medical stuff) so I'm sure I will need your advice and nursing support when I hit nutso lol.
Oxford - after all this time we are still chart linked through ff! So I stalked yesterday - looking good so far!post #138 of 21312/9/13 at 2:36pmpost #139 of 21312/10/13 at 12:48amMorning!
Yay Mamablue! I'm so pleased that your scan showed everything is fine. Pesky placenta giving you all that worry! I hope you can sit back and relax a bit now and enjoy that little one growing nicely. :-)
Chuord- you are so nearly there! Looking forward to hearing your testing results at the end of the week. Fingers crossed you'll be joining the girls.
Wengrin- sorry to hear you are feeling so sick. I'm not very experienced in all this, but couldn't that be a good sign if your hormones are soaring? I hope you enjoyed resting with cutie DS. What has he been doing lately? I love hearing your stories about him :-)
Afm it's 6dpo. My chart has been much more settled since I started on the drugs. It used to bounce all over the place, so it's nice to be a bit more consistent. I'm hoping that mean my hormones are starting to balance. My chart is still climbing after o. I will post the link. Chuord- thanks for looking in and for your encouragement!
I have a question about the birds and the bees! My consultant said that chatting was a waste of time and not to bother, that is the official advice in the UK. He says that your body can kick out an egg whenever it wants so I'm better bd-ing 2-3 times a week and not trying to time it. Also with pcos I'm not sure I'm regularly ovulating. However- my chart does show a really clear thermal shift and I still like to see what's going on. Do you think I can assume I've ovulated because of my temp shift? My CM has dried up or creamy (sorry tmi) so I think the show is over for this month.post #140 of 21312/10/13 at 12:54am
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