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Location of movement in breech birth vs. vertex

post #1 of 13
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I've looked into belly mapping but I'm also curious about people's experiences. Where did you feel movement late in pregnancy and how was your baby positioned? I was told at an ultrasound at 28 weeks that my babe was breech. While I know there is still time for him to move, I would like to have a sense of where he is if possible. I keep feeling big movements in my right side (same place as I always felt kicks with my daughter, who was LOA) and small movements down around my pubic bone, which makes me think head down with hands down too. Thoughts? If you had a baby settle breech, where did you feel movement? 

post #2 of 13
When my baby was breech (@like 32 - 34 weeks) I felt little flippers by my cervix & a distinct head under my ribs. After the baby flipped (at like 34 weeks after a Chiro/Webster adjustment) sometimes the butt still felt like a head to me. I have had 2 quickie U/S to confirm tho: head is down. Now I feel most kicks in my upper right quadrant, but since the baby 'dropped' @ 36-37 weeks, they are more like along the right midline.
post #3 of 13

I am no good at telling the butt from the head but the last one was, by multiple ultrasounds, breech and posterior until about 32ish weeks. Also my placenta was anterior so it was hard to get good movement all together, but mostly it was on the right side. I am certain she flipped breech again and then back at some point after this, don't remember exactly when but I woke up one night and felt her moving in a clock like pattern around my belly, so she was transverse for a bit and that hurt! Very sharp movements on both the left and right.

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I have no idea what he has been up to recently... the movement just seems to be all over. And it varies from day to day. I'm only 31 weeks right now. I think it would be best for me to just not think about it too much! 

 

But it doesn't make me feel reassured that my midwives won't/can't attend a vaginal breech, and say that if he settles breech they would recommend a c/s but can "try to help me find somebody" if I don't want a c/s. 

post #5 of 13
That is the situation where I am @ too: the hospital CNMs do not attend breech. Not do the OBs. The nearest hospital that can/will is 90 minutes away, just started their program AND is already being sued for 30 million over one that did not go that well . . .
post #6 of 13
Erigeron, ITA you still have several weeks, and most babies do flip head down all on their own by term! But have your midwives mentioned external version as an option? It should be done by a doc but maybe they can refer you to one who does them?
post #7 of 13

I'm 32 weeks and finally went head down a few days ago.  The location of hiccups was a big clue.  Down low = vertex. 

post #8 of 13

I feel for the hard round head just above my pubic bone, then can follow the back up the right side of my abdomen and find the butt, which is a little squishier; then the feet, which sometimes feel like a head except that they move around too much.  Hiccups are low in my pelvis on the right side.  Most of the kicking is high/middle on the left.  But other times it feels like there is movement everywhere and I'm pretty sure the baby is actually an octopus.  I'm 34 weeks this week and baby has been head down since 32 weeks. 

post #9 of 13
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Originally Posted by Katie8681 View Post

Erigeron, ITA you still have several weeks, and most babies do flip head down all on their own by term! But have your midwives mentioned external version as an option? It should be done by a doc but maybe they can refer you to one who does them?

She did mention a version as an option, but I still have to find out more about that before I know if I'm even interested. 

 

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Originally Posted by pamelaRRRR View Post
 

I'm 32 weeks and finally went head down a few days ago.  The location of hiccups was a big clue.  Down low = vertex. 

Oh, really? I've been mostly feeling hiccups down by my pubic bone. In that case I'm home free. 

post #10 of 13
I looked pretty extensively @ the Version literature & it seems fairly low risk . . .
post #11 of 13

My doctor and I discussed a version when we thought my baby was breech (same problem - she wouldn't attend a breech birth).  She said versions can be very effective, but they do risk separating the placenta from the wall, which means an automatic emergency c-section.  If you're heading for a c-section anyway because no one will deliver a breech baby in your area, it's not much of a risk.  But my doctor does versions in a hospital after 37 weeks with an OB on call because it can lead to complications.   That being said, I would have done it had my daughter remained breech.

post #12 of 13

I am 26 weeks and little miss seems to be switching it up between OA, ROA, and ROT...but it's so early yet, that's pretty good.

 

I feel big kicks in my upper left quadrant most of the time and the occasional punch in the cervix. She just switched positions, and had been spending most of her time transverse or posterior breech until then. I'm just plain pleased she's settled into a head down position and being mindful of my posture to help encourage her to be optimally positioned by d-day

post #13 of 13
Erigeron, have you tried doing daily positioning exercises (Spinning Babies has a whole list of them)? I'm at 31 weeks, and my
CNM just confirmed that the baby was LOA (feeling it's butt poke out just above/to the left of my navel and strong kicks in my ride side ribs, little hand tickles low in my pubic bone). I can tell when my little one scoots it's butt over to the right side, and when that happens, I do a quick (20 second/3 deep breaths) inversion on the couch, 20-30 pelvic rocks on the floor, and a couple 30 second squats, and usually the baby goes back to LOA. I'm also making time to do a few squats in the shower, sit on my exercise ball while watching TV, and sit in the tailor's pose when on the floor with my son. Um...can you tell I'm a little obsessive about optimal fetal positioning? Anyway, the point is, if you're concerned about position, you have plenty of time to get kiddo LOA and encourage him to stick there through a few simple exercises done daily.
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