thank you, PokeyAC! I love your avatar, by the way. What a cutie!
Queer Conceptions December - Page 4
Welcome lrex99! I hope you have a short stay on the TTC board - IVF has such great odds that i have a feeling it will be
Let's see, what's been going on with the rest of you?
Hopeful - You should be testing soon, no?
Darcy - I know you think this month might have been a bust on timing - but I'm rooting hard for you When do you hope to test or expect AF?
Sending good vibes to you both!
The board is so quiet right now - everyone already caught up in the holidays?
AFM - I got my pos OPK today, so O on Monday. It was the clearest pos I've ever seen on one and I'm taking that as a good omen. We got tries in Fri/Sat/Sun and I'll drive up to SF to see KD for one more try tomorrow after he's done with work. Go ahead and move me to the TWW :D
Irex99 - Welcome! Do you want me to put you under working on IVF?
Lea - you will be getting started so soon! Hope it flies by for you.
Pook - thanks for the good vibes! All those tries sound promising!! How did your trip to SF go? And yeah the money thing is tough. I would love to go low tech but it seems my eggs have other plans.
Fille - how is everything going? Did you insem yet?
Sandiegongp - how are you two doing? Thanks for keeping us updated on your progress. I am really excited to graduate you! Let me know when you want to be moved.
Fried - glad to hear about your wonderful experience! It's nice to hear good reviews.
Pook- Thanks so much for checking in on me. My test was a BFN and AF showed up this weekend. Your positive OPK sounds like a good sign and with so many insems this cycle!! My fingers are crossed for you!
lrex- Welcome to Queer Conceptions. I hope your stay is short and sweet!
Agrex- Good Luck!
Sandie- I'm not sure if I have said it yet, but congratulations on the BFP!!! I'm sure going through the 5WW till the ultrasound has to be agonizing, but it's getting closer and closer! Hopefully the holidays are keeping you at least a little distracted. How did the other 2 interviews go?
Fille- How did the OPKs and the insem go?
Darcy- Any news?!
AFM- Could you move me to Waiting to O? AF showed up this weekend so now we are just waiting. I should O right around Christmas. I realized the other day that December marks two years since the first time we insemmed. Thinking about that makes it hard to not get discouraged but I just try to think about all of the things that are different from the first time I was trying and all of the things I have learned. Also, even though it's been two years, there have only been about 10 times that we have actually tried.... Ugh! Is it just me or does 10 seem like a lot?
AFM - Beta was negative so now we just wait for AF and then start all over again. I emailed RE a bunch of questions so hopefully I get some good answers from him. I am mainly concerned about ovulating so early and quickly. My surge seems to begin naturally as soon as my follie hits about 16mm-17mm which is odd to me. It's making the timing of the trigger really hard because RE wants to see bigger follies before triggering. I asked for more monitoring and blood work so let's see what he says. Also, we are shooting for two insems this time around - one being at home. That should help with my O most likely falling on New Year's Day when my RE office is closed. This will be our last try until we get a better handle on our finances.
Merry Christmas to those who celebrate and good luck to all of you in the TWW and all of you with upcoming insems!
Thanks, Friederike and Hopefull22!
And yes, DarcySD thanks - you can move me to working on IVF.
I'm still new here and trying to figure out how to keep up with everyone, but so grateful for this space and getting to know each of you and your journey.
Happy holidays and happy baby progress to everyone!
Pooka, good luck with the insems!
lrex, welcome, and good luck with the IVF ramp up.
Agrex, thinking of you! it's hard to imagine what it feels like to get the hopes up this high and then have them dashed, but i'm glad to hear you're trying again.
Hopeful, thanks for asking! one interview was today and boy oh boy do i want that job. i have 2 more in early january. it's nervewracking. Also, I don't know if this helps at all, but at our last insem, our RE told us about a couple that had to do 12 insems to qualify for their insurance, and got pregnant on their 12th one. i don't know what we should take from this except that this is a crazy game with no rules.
Fille, how was your insem? hope it went great.
Tavi, welcome to you!
Darcy, i don't know much about injectables and stuff, but there should be a way to lengthen your follicular phase. i'm blanking on what it is. crap. i hope your RE gives you some good advice. i felt like we always had to kind of do our own research and ask for things, but when we did, they were always receptive. still, sometimes you just have to lean on their expertise, i suppose. hope it works out!
afu, we have our first ultrasound on monday, and i'm super anxious. i don't even want to write too much about it because i'll just go nuts. but oh boy monday cannot come soon enough. also, lady's parents arrive saturday to stay for a week. if we get good news on monday, we plan on telling them right after. if not, there will be some tears for sure. angst!
Mamaetmaman: any progress with your RE? They're sticking by their demand for a donor-surrogate agreement? Have you figured out when you'll be able to try again, with that in the timeline?
Lea2012: Did you end up trying a shipping cycle this month? Or did you decide to wait until January to try again? I hate the shipping process-especially feeling like I have no control over what happens at KD's end of things (did it get cooled, packed and shipped properly). Still glad I can do it, but yuck.
Hopeful22: I'm totally bummed for you about AF showing up! I'm 99.9% sure I'll be there with you in a couple of days. I'm at the 1 year mark of trying and even though I can back through the months and say "okay, there were only a couple months where there was really a 100% good try," the fact that it's an anniversary of my first try really bums me out if I think about it. So, trying not to think about it.
Welcome to Tavi and Lrex, and all my hopes for very short stays. Lrex, I'm particularly happy to have another single parent-to-be join us! I'm 35 and not will to wait anymore to start a family just because I haven't found a life partner, so here I am....
I have updates on how things are going with me, but it's sort of long and ramble-y, so I'll post all that separately.
I was less frustrated with the whole (too long to report in full) debacle of this cycle because the day before I insemmed, I had my follow-up appointment with the RE to discuss the results of the testing I did in November--bloodwork, ultrasound, HSG--and my KD's semen analysis. I was super-nervous, but a (lovely, loving) friend volunteered to go with me, so I had some emotional support in case of bad news. Which I did not get.
First off, KD's semen is excellent. This is awesome, because not only do I not have another KD option, I really, really didn't want to ever have to tell a guy he was shooting blanks. (In a bit of amusing heterocentrism, the SA report had me listed as his "wife". Apparently, this is the only configuration of people that are supposed to be doing semen analyses.)
On my end of things, even though only one tube actually spilled dye during the HSG, RE thought that both tubes are probably open. The only actual irregular result across the testing was high levels of male hormones, indicative of PCOS. (My AMH was good, actually a bit high, also indicative of PCOS.) The possibility that I have PCOS is not surprising as I have Type 2 diabetes and PCOS is strongly linked to insulin resistance. That said, since the issue with PCOS and TTC is that you typically don't ovulate and/or have long/irregular cycles, and I have neither (BBTs show consistent ovulation and labwork from last year shows my post-O progesterone levels are consistent with O), it doesn't seem like this is actually going to be a barrier to getting pregnant. Though, who knows, I have heard that less than ideal blood sugar levels (mine are okay, but not non-diabetic) can make getting pregnant difficult. Anyway, even though there was no clear infertility, RE gave me a Rx for letrozole (Femara) and said it might help things happen faster (by making me ovulate multiple times per cycle), and it might also make the OPKs go positive as well, making it easier for me to time insem. (I'm already taking the other drug they give women with PCOS TTC, Metformin, to control my blood sugar.) He suggested I take the letrozole without any monitoring, 5 mg/day CD3-7. He also said letrozole has about a 5% incidence of multiples, but otherwise minimal side effects (it's a different mechanism than Clomid, so doesn't lead to thinning endo linings and things like that). He said if I was worried about multiples, I could go with a half dose (2.5 mg/day). I took the Rx, but haven't filled it, and am not sure what to do with this new option.
So, here's where your wisdom, experience and hopefully advice come in:
It turns out that a month's supply of letrozole is now super-cheap (yay for generics!), so there's no financial barrier. What would you do if you were me? Try the letrozole? Keep trying without? I'm pretty terrified of having multiples, for both health reasons (I'm already going to be "high risk" because of the diabetes, my age, weight, etc.) and the reality that having twins as a single parent would be a whole magnitude more difficult. Two babies, one parent, oy vey. That said, I'd take raising twins on my own over never getting to have kids. And I'd really like to have 2 kids but have resigned myself to just one because of my age and finances and all that jazz. So, yeah, twins, maybe hard but not a disaster? I am getting pretty tired of trying month after month. Maybe a 5% chance of multiples is worth it, if it means getting pregnant faster? Or does it not make any sense at all to risk multiples, when I have time to keep trying and no definitive need to take the risk? Have any of you had experience taking letrozole, with or without other drugs/monitoring? How did you weigh the risk of multiples when you were thinking about different fertility treatments?
Also, looking back at just my last year of charting, I've O'd on CD15-18 every single month (in previous years, my cycle varied a little more in length). So, instead of screwing around unsuccessfully with OPKs, or going to trying the letrozole, I could try shipping twice a month and insemming on CD15 and CD17. That'll give me pretty good timing most months, and lead to a lot less stress than now, trying to predict when I'm going to O in the face of obstinately negative OPKs. I think my KD might like it as well, since he'd know his shipping day(s) in advance instead of having to wait for my text.
Option 3, I could consider combining the timed approach with taking the letrozole, but I wonder if the letrozole might make me ovulate earlier in the cycle and screw up the timing. Anyone who has tried letrozole, did it make you ovulate earlier than in unmedicated cycles? I tried to get Dr. Google to tell me the answer to this, but couldn't find anything that said one way or the other. It seems like a possibility.
So, yeah, advice...?
fille- I have been on letrozole 3 times. All three times, it has significantly shortened my follicular phase (like from day 26 to day 16). I only ever had one dominant follicle, never multiples. It isn't very similar to clomid, which tends to encourage multiple follicles to develop as the dominant one. Letrozole will also not thin your uterine lining as much. It did give me hot flashes though! Lol. Good luck with whatever decision you make.
Hi everyone - sending happy thoughts to all of you. I am surfing the mdc site instead of wrapping Christmas presents and stalking threads with baby pictures and dreaming of my own one day. So Cute! Argh. I am impatient for IVF to be rolling and know it won't be until April probably until implantation.
Oh - has anyone doing IVF done the CCS chromosone test?
Happy Holidays to all!
Hello everyone, Merry Christmas to those who celebrate! We have been enjoying our time in Michigan with family and haven't had much time to get online. I have much to catch up on but I wanted to say congrats to those who got their BFPs and Welcome to those just joining.
With the new year finally coming along I am happy to get moved back to waiting to O! We are anticipating AF in the first week of January and are anticipating our IUI by the end of the month. Very excited and also nervous to try again.