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post #81 of 621

Funny news today... Originally our coordinator had told us that 8 out of 10 eggs had fertilized, and then yesterday that they were all doing well. DH was making jokes all day today that they were going to call and say that actually they had 10 now, that they found 2 more in a cupboard, etc. And it turns out that the last two did fertilize after all! So now we have six graded "good" and four that are "fair."

Transfer is on Sunday morning; tomorrow we're going on a cruise tour of three of the small islands near Athens. It's supposed to be 13 degrees (celsius) and sunny tomorrow, so I'm looking forward to that. I have to run, we're headed out for supper, hi everybody!

post #82 of 621
Laggie- that is awesome!!! Grow embies grow!! Have fun exploring! It gives this whole process an exotic flair that you are in Greece! I love it! (Wow, I just noticed that's a lot of exclamation points...but I really mean it!! Haha)
post #83 of 621
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Adiejan- how'd it go today? It's so exciting to start a new cycle!! My understanding is that it all comes down to number of eggs to find the good ones. If they get more, they're more likely to find your take home baby in there. Since there's so much attrition along the way, it feels like you need more to get to your happy ending. But, you'll definitely find things out from this cycle. Maybe your DH's swimmers look great, but don't fertilize your eggs. Maybe the follicles look great, but don't contain good quality eggs. I think you'll certainly learn something from this cycle! Sometimes just getting answers is worth it.

Laggie - congrats on finding 2 extra embryos in the cupboard!!!! Were they just late fertilizers? I've heard of that happening (but I've never been that lucky). Rescue ICSI? So is that a 3 day transfer? How many will you transfer? Do they vitrify and store any leftovers for you? I'm super excited for you too!!!!! How was the cruise????
post #84 of 621

So this cycle was a bust and judging by the way AF is going, my lining was crap. We cycle with insurance which is great because we don't have to pay anything. Unfortunately this means we can't get approval to cycle this month in time so I am just sitting around for the next 20 something days. I'm hoping to get in for an endometrial biopsy sometime this week & try again in late January.

post #85 of 621

Has anyone used herbs like vitex and red clover blossom?

post #86 of 621

toothfairy - I'm sorry, it sucks to wait but at least you can have wine at New Year's Eve? Did you get any answers from the recurrent loss testing?

 

Xerxella - I'm not sure where they found the other two, they told me that they had actually fertilized so early that they were missed at the first look? But that makes no sense so I have no idea. We did ICSI for all of them since DH's sperm is poor quality. The cruise was great, the weather was beautiful and we got to sit up on the top sundeck of the boat, laying in the sun on giant beanbag chairs.

 

adiejan - if you do a monitored IUI cycle, they check to see how many eggs you have and can pinpoint ovulation more precisely. Maybe that is the difference? More eggs + IUI could work if your problem isn't male factor? I have no idea though, my Vancouver doctor basically doesn't believe in IUI, he says it is the same as timed intercourse. Anyway, best of luck with your cycle! Don't worry about the needles, they aren't so bad. Actually with this donor egg cycle it has been pills, pills, pills, and I'm starting to feel like i'd rather have the shots. I hate swallowing pills.

 

Hi Mulsa! Welcome to a fellow Canadian!

 

Keli - Are you doing daily Lupron or was it the single injection?

 

Sourire - the Medrol is awful, I ended up putting the pills inside a gelcap because I kept gagging at the taste of them.

 

AFM - Well, things are a bit different here, the clinic in Athens is TINY with only three staff on at a time. I am used to a huge clinic in Vancouver with two receptionists and four doctors, plus all of the embryologists and nurses. It was nice though, very relaxed.

 

Anyway. We met with the embryologist and she told us that we were down to four blastocysts. Which I was a little bit disappointed by, since we had ten on Friday, but four is still good. They told us they would transfer two (it didn't seem to be up to us at all, but that's fine, we wanted to do two anyway) and that the other two could be frozen.

 

So... PUPO until December 31st! I guess I'll find out whether I get to go out drinking, or stay home with a glass of sparkling juice. Tomorrow we're going to Santorini, which is supposed to be the most romantic island in Greece, to stay in a cliffside apartment with a fireplace for a few days and relax. Unfortunately, no sex allowed for seven days according to my instructions. This trip has helped in that department a lot, I'm not sure why... but I'm sure you're all familiar with how infertility kills the mood.

post #87 of 621
Toothfairy - I'm so sorry your cycle didn't work. hug2.gif

Laggie - congrats on being PUPO! Are you staying in Greece for the entire 2ww?
post #88 of 621

We're flying back on the 28th.

post #89 of 621

Hey I joined the other TTC thread but I guess I belong here too.  We are just starting on TTC # 3.  I have PCOS diagnosed when we started TTC # 1 but knew something wasn't right since I was in my teens.  To get pregnant with #1 I did IUI, Clomid, Cinnamon, and a low carb diet. with #2 we did a low carb diet and cinnamon.  Not sure how #3 will go.  I have gone Gluten free and am doing a low carb diet.  Also taking cinnamon again.  Concerned about my progesterone after ovulation.  The last few cycles I have started spotting for 3 days before actually getting my period.  This has never happen before.   Going to see a doctor tonight and will getting a subscription for progesterone.  Also would like tests run this cycle to see if I am ovulating.  If I am not the plan is to move right on to Clomid. 

post #90 of 621
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Originally Posted by cagirlintexas View Post
 

Hey I joined the other TTC thread but I guess I belong here too.  We are just starting on TTC # 3.  I have PCOS diagnosed when we started TTC # 1 but knew something wasn't right since I was in my teens.  To get pregnant with #1 I did IUI, Clomid, Cinnamon, and a low carb diet. with #2 we did a low carb diet and cinnamon.  Not sure how #3 will go.  I have gone Gluten free and am doing a low carb diet.  Also taking cinnamon again.  Concerned about my progesterone after ovulation.  The last few cycles I have started spotting for 3 days before actually getting my period.  This has never happen before.   Going to see a doctor tonight and will getting a subscription for progesterone.  Also would like tests run this cycle to see if I am ovulating.  If I am not the plan is to move right on to Clomid.

 

 

Welcome to the group! Tell me more about Cinnamon. How did that help you? A girlfriend of mine recommended I do cinnamon extract in my water to balance my blood sugar. Is that the same thing?

post #91 of 621

AF still hasn't made an appearance but I can't say that I'm stressed about that. After reading that some ladies have gone 40-70 day cycles, I can't say that I'm worried yet. Or should I be? This is the LONGEST I've ever gone with not seeing the crimsome tide so I'm not sure what's normal anymore.  And then it's causing me to panic like something is really wrong even though I'm sure it's not because all of my blood tests and PAPs were normal. Sigh.

 

I hate PCOS :(

 

Vent over...

post #92 of 621

It basically lowers my insulin levels so that I ovulate when I do it along with a low carb diet.   My current dosage is 3000 mg which is 6 pills a day.  I take it after meals.   that is what I have done for my previous 2 times I was TTC.  Not sure where I got the original dosage.  Been reading this and that and I am thinking of lowering to 1500 after this cycle.  I agree with you.  I hate PCOS.  My cycles have been all over the map.  I hate when its late and I start wondering if I could be pregnant.  The spotting thing before AF has had me stressed lately to although I have heard that is normal for PCOS.  I also read some where that women with PCOS have an easier time getting pregnant as they get older.  Seriously hoping that is true! 

post #93 of 621
Hugs PCOS ladies!! It blows! I also spot before AF...so confusing! Mo I'm sorry it's not here yet. I hate being out of the game. Cagirl- do you know if cinnamon oil helps too?
Laggie- sorry that only 4 made it but on the bright side 4 made it smile.gif!! I hope the wait goes well. Here's to sparkling juice at home for 9 months!!! I've actually done 4 monitored IUI's but my former re was not doing a day 1-3 u/s to see if I had leftover cysts. So many of my do called follicles were likely cysts from former cycles. Particularly since they were having me trigger at cd 10. So I'm excited to see what happens this min stim plus-IVF. I am curious to know egg quality and what will happen after ICSI smile.gif very exciting!
TF-I'm sorry about your cycle! Hugs!
Everyone else- Hi! How goes it for all of you?
AFM- had my cd 2 u/s on Friday. It looks like I have quite a few follicles waiting in the wings and one small cyst that shouldn't cause a problem. So now I'm on clomid again (I'm a pro at this old med now) and I kinda forgot about the hot flashes! I go in next fri for my day 9 u/s to see if we have enough good follies to move ahead with this cycle. Hoping things are cooking up nicely in there.
post #94 of 621
Adiejan - not sure about the oil everything I have read is about the powder. Good luck with your clomid cycle. Thats exciting!

Toothfairy - Sorry about your cycle. That sucks =(

Laggie - How fun to be in Greece! Fingers crossed for you!

Well went to the doctor tonight. Ultrasounds showed cysts but not to many. I am cycle day 9. I have 1 follicule measuring 14mm. The doctor wants me to come back cycle day 12 and then do trigger shot. As much as I want to be pregnant right now. I feel like I want to take this cycle natural and see what happens. See if nature takes its course. Am I nuts?
post #95 of 621
Cagirl- I don't think you're nuts at all. Follow your gut and if it's not your month maybe try another route next month. What does your partner say? Good luck!!

I also wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas. I truly believe in Christmas Miracles. I am truly hoping that you are all one step closer to yours! Let's see some BFP's on here soon!
post #96 of 621
Talked it over with my partner and he agrees. I need to mess with nature to get me ovulating but if I am going to ovulate this cycle it would be nice to let nature run it's course.
post #97 of 621
Hi all! I am coming back from a 3 month hiatus. I had to take a step back before our plans for fertility treatments. I wished that those I saw in the infertility threads would be graduates by now, sorry but also happy to see you.

I read through all the posts in here but since I'm on my phone can't remember exactly who said what. Just know I am thinking of you all and praying for everyone.

AFM, myself 30, DH 29, TTC for 20 months, unexplained infertility. We are starting treatments in a few days here and since money is an issue we are doing 2 clomid only cycles, one clomid with IUI, and one fresh/one frozen IVF. I am feeling depressed today but I don't want to ruin anyone else's Christmas. I am very nervous to start this process but also excited. Any advice or support is welcome.
post #98 of 621
Thread Starter 
marcyse - hug.gif I hope the holidays were a little better for you. The good news is that with your young age and the "unexplained" diagnosis, I think your prognosis is really good. I'm sure it doesn't feel that way right now, but I bet by next year this time, you'll be in a very different place. Here's hoping we all will.

cagirl - I would think go back and see where you're at. A 14 has a good chance of making it to ovulation. You can always go look and then decide if you want to do the trigger or not. You don't have to do anything. It does sound like you have a good chance of ovulating on your own this cycle.

adiejan - How are you feeling? Good luck tomorrow!!!! Let us know what the tech finds....

Laggie - You come home on Saturday!!!!! How do you feel? Any thoughts on + or - ???

AFM - Just waiting to ovulate...... Come on eggie....
Edited by Xerxella - 12/27/13 at 7:12am
post #99 of 621

Xerxella - Do you know anything about Medrol and what it's purpose is? My coordinator said that I'm supposed to stay on it until the 12th week, if I get a BFP, but the info I've googled suggests normal protocol is to just take it for a few days after transfer. I'm not sure if this is because I'm doing donor egg. I don't like the idea of taking a steroid for so long - but it might be a moot point anyway.

 

I have no feeling one way or the other. I know from experience that none of the "symptoms" mean anything... I feel like a big puffy blob from the drugs. I'm just enjoying the comfy bed at the airport hotel in Athens. I am looking forward to being home. The trip was more fun than I expected, but I'm getting sick of eating weird foods and paying 6 euros for a tiny bottle of pop. Greek restaurants have been really hit and miss - some of the food is wonderful, but a lot of places don't hesitate to serve frozen/microwaved crap. At least the stray dogs are well fed ;-)

post #100 of 621
Thread Starter 
Laggie - I don't know much about medrol, per se. It's a steroid like prednisone and dexamethasone. I was on prednisone for the last pregnancy. Generally, the studies show that unless you have a known problem and a steroid is the known cure, it doesn't help. There have been lots of studies for steroids for unexplained recurrent loss and it never seems to help. Overall, I would think I wouldn't keep taking it, but you definitely should talk to your doc back home, especially if you get a BFP.

Speaking of which.... Are you really going to wait until the 31st?
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