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Read further.  He is bitterly critical of changes to AEFI recognition criteria.  He has also said that WHO's stats on measles rates and measles death rates are bogus, and are invented to sell vaccines.

He is, as you say, not anti-vaccine.  However, he doesn't seem to have any trouble recognizing bs when he sees it.  And the scrutiny should not have to come from the head of pediatrics in a hospital.  It should have come way, way before that--and it didn't.

 

I do plan to read further. Just curious, who should the scrutiny have come from? Where did it fail, in your opinion?

From his position it sounds like most of the failure was with the WHO piling on blanket recommendations without sufficient support from the regions affected. If the WHO failed to even consider research and experience from these different regions before they made the recommendation, then that's definitely a failure. I haven't looked that far into this issue specifically so I can't say either way. But with that said, it looks like there are objections from doctors in India who disagree heartily with his assessment and the statistics he is using to support his position.

Definitely something to look into more.

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Just to add another response to your concern over where this issue should have been scrutinized, Puliyel isn't only the head of pediatrics but he is on the National Technical Advisory Group on Immunisations (NTAGI) which is exactly the group that the Indian government intended to study and scrutinize vaccine recommendations.

 

I'm finding a lot of conflicting info about the re-introduction of the pentavalent vaccine. This article says Puliyel claims the government bypassed NTAGI's recommendations to reintroduce the vaccine:

Puliyel says that pentavalents gained entry into India as the government chose to bypass the National Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (NTAGI) that was set up in 2001 to advise on the introduction of new vaccines.
 

 

Initially the recommendation (according to 2010 minutes) was to introduce the pentavalent vaccine only in states that had good AEFI monitoring. In those minutes, it was also reported that there was unanimous agreement that the Hib vaccine should be introduced, and Puliyel was at the meeting but he preferred standalone Hib.

 

Anyway, other articles say that the re-introduction of the vaccine was initiated by NTAGI. Not sure who to believe on this one. I would love to get any NTAGI minutes where this recommendation was made:

 
Health Department officials say they see no reason why there should be more protests against the vaccine, now that the National Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation (NTAGI), which conducted a study on vaccine-related infant deaths, has recommended to the Union Health Ministry that the vaccine is safe and effective.
 
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Just to add another response to your concern over where this issue should have been scrutinized, Puliyel isn't only the head of pediatrics but he is on the National Technical Advisory Group on Immunisations (NTAGI) which is exactly the group that the Indian government intended to study and scrutinize vaccine recommendations.

 

I'm finding a lot of conflicting info about the re-introduction of the pentavalent vaccine. This article says Puliyel claims the government bypassed NTAGI's recommendations to reintroduce the vaccine:

 

Initially the recommendation (according to 2010 minutes) was to introduce the pentavalent vaccine only in states that had good AEFI monitoring. In those minutes, it was also reported that there was unanimous agreement that the Hib vaccine should be introduced, and Puliyel was at the meeting but he preferred standalone Hib.

 

Anyway, other articles say that the re-introduction of the vaccine was initiated by NTAGI. Not sure who to believe on this one. I would love to get any NTAGI minutes where this recommendation was made:

 

Why not email him on his website and ask?  

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