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"There haven't been any studies that have proven vaccines cause autism"

post #1 of 12
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I would like to know how best to respond to this I know that studies are directly or indirectly funded by pharma. But is there a more effective way of responding to the statement that no studies gave proven.....? Thanks
post #2 of 12

"….actually, there have been studies suggesting a link between vaccines and autism in susceptible individuals.  There have been court rulings as well…would you like to see some links?"

 

"…it can take many, many years to prove causation (think how long it took to prove cigarettes were dangerous - decades!).  I choose not to take a chance with my child while they sort this all out."

 

"I will not argue with you.  I am the parent and will do whatever I legally can with my kid, you do the same.  This topic is not up for discussion."

 

Oh, also. google pinks disease and autism.

post #3 of 12
Thread Starter 
No. I agree with you. I'm
Really asking if there are studies so I can counter the comment that no studies tie autism to vaccines. Please look at my previous posts if you are unsure. And please send me any helpful links.
post #4 of 12

Well cause might not be entirely accurate and that's where it gets hairy with the pro-vaxxers.  Trigger is a better description....but then anything environmental can trigger any number of issues that one might be pre-disposed to get.

 

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535

 

"Although individuals probably have a genetic predisposition to develop autism, researchers suspect that one or more environmental triggers are also needed. One of those triggers might be the battery of vaccinations that young children receive..... A positive and statistically significant relationship was found: The higher the proportion of children receiving recommended vaccinations, the higher was the prevalence of AUT or SLI."

post #5 of 12
Also there are some health problems that are linked to autism that can be caused by vaccines. Like brain swelling. Maybe google that info for more details.
post #6 of 12
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Originally Posted by zachattack View Post

I would like to know how best to respond to this I know that studies are directly or indirectly funded by pharma. But is there a more effective way of responding to the statement that no studies gave proven.....? Thanks

 

Since autism really doesn't factor into my vaccination decisions, I think my most likely response would be: "Okay....and you're mentioning this to me why?"  I might go on to rant about what is and isn't "proven", but only if I'm bored.

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Edited by sassyfirechick - 1/6/14 at 8:25am
post #8 of 12

Naimah, please review the forum guidelines and post in the forums that relate to your vaccine choices. SFC, will you please remove the portion of your post that quotes deleted posts, please? Members wanting to continue this discussion with pro-vax and NF members can post a spin-off in Discussion and Debate. Thanks! 

post #9 of 12

So in another thread I had started with some great graphs and stats, this was one of the links regarding autism:

http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/vaccination-causes-autism-%e2%80%93-say-us-government-merck%e2%80%99s-director-of%c2%a0vaccines/

 

So for those pre-disposed with certain conditions, vaccines could be the catalyst that triggers the switch from ok to ASD's, some interesting stuff.

post #10 of 12

www.fourteenstudies.org

 

Not only relevant studies showing potential links, but also details mainstream studies and how poor they are.

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www.fourteenstudies.org

 

Not only relevant studies showing potential links, but also details mainstream studies and how poor they are.

This is AWESOME! Thank you for posting this. I am pinning it to my Vaccine Info Pinterest board. :)

post #12 of 12

That NIH link is amazing.

I don't know how to use pubmed. is the whole article available to anyone?

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