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post #1 of 34
Thread Starter 

I'd like to educate myself about babywearing and figure out what kinds of carriers I should get! I plan to wear my baby as much as possible, and I know there are a whole bunch of different types of baby carriers out there, so I want to know what are the pros and cons of each type.

 

For mamas who have worn their babies, what were your favourite carriers? I'm most interested in the ones that are good for newborns, since that is what I'll need soonest!

 

I have no problem buying multiple carriers just to see which one works best for me and my baby, and I also have no problem having different carriers for my baby when she's a newborn vs when she's a bit older.

 

I'm also hoping to get DH on board with babywearing as well, I'd like to have a carrier that he can use too!

post #2 of 34

I love babywearing but am trying to learn more this time 'round about woven wraps.  Anyone?  I know nothing about the sizes or brands except that they are all individually more money than I have in our entire baby carrier collection, which is why we own these four and not any wovens so far.  For this baby I'd like to find one on sale or a cheap used woven to try the idea out, since I know so little about them.

 

What I do know is that my moby wrap is great for the newborn stage.  Its a bit to put on though so its not very suitable to take in the car somewhere, but at home, its snuggly perfection.  The ergo carrier is the one I use most, because its easy to put on without getting the carrier dirty / on the floor, or to switch kids around in.  For infants I wrap him / her up tight and then put them into the infant insert and then into the ergo carrier.  But take out the inserts and tug on the straps, presto, toddler carrying time.  Definately, the ergo is the most versatile carrier I've tried.

 

Older babies have more carrier options but we own two, a ring sling and a sized sling. My toddler's favortie is the ring sling.  And now that DD2 is a year, she's okay with the sized sling (perfect for stuffing in my purse for mall trips or being out and about).  Both require a semi-free hand because the baby can wiggle out of them without maintenance.

post #3 of 34
I'm a babywearing fan! I didn't even use a stroller with my last kid. I have used most everything. I'll come back and give more details, but in the meantime sign up for an account at www.thebabywearer.com
post #4 of 34
The first thing you want to do is track down your local babywearing club. Facebook is a good place to find them, but google sometimes works and there may be a listing on tbw too. Clubs often have lending libraries, which are the best way to see in real life different carriers. Good carriers are often only available online. The ones in chain stores are usually not as good.

The carrier you pick depends on your personality. Are you a quick and simple no fuss het it done and get on with it person ? If so, you want a soft structured carrier (SSC) like tula, beco, boba. Kinderpack, ergo, oh snap.

Are you a person who wants quick but likes more adjustment optionsoptions without learning how to wrap? Do you like fabric options and color? Mei tai might be for you. Kozy and babyhawk are popular.

Or are you a geek like me who loves learning new skills, gets excited by fiber and color? Do you have a crafting hobby? If so, you will probably love wovens. Wovens are the most versitle and comfiest, but they are a skill to learn and it takes practice. Which is part of the fun. Didymos, hoppendiz, storchenweige, natibaby and more.

Stretchies are great intro wraps but only good for about three months, so by secondhand. Moby is common. Wraposdy and je port mon bebe are others to consider and rated for back carries.

Wovens are expensive, but they also have a second hand market unlike any other gear. If you buy on the swap, you can typically sell on the swap for exactly what you paid (all you have to cover is paypal fees and shipping). Because of this incredible value retention, wrappers collect and churn and have large stashes. You don't have to get all that to love wrapping, but trying and selling is part of the fun. The active swaps are on tbw and facebook (the babywearing swap, babywearing on a budget, high end babywearing).

Everyone should have a ring sling. They should be standard issue.... Sakura bloom and sleeping baby productions are great.

Diy is generally a waste of money compared to the swaps, and really not as comfortable. It is worth it to buy something rather than make it.

Let me know if you want me to get into brands, sizes etc.

http://onyababy.com/blog/2012/06/benefits-of-babywearing-vs-carseat-carrying/
www.thebabywearer.com
www.sleepingbaby.net
Edited by floweringkale - 12/24/13 at 7:11am
post #5 of 34
Thread Starter 

Wow thanks for all the super helpful info floweringkale!

 

I think I'm probably more of a "quick and simple" person, but I'm willing to try other options and who knows, I might end up liking them. The whole swap/secondhand thing doesn't appeal to me too much because money is not an issue for me and it sounds easier to just order stuff brand new!

 

Based on my research so far, I was considering getting a stretchy wrap like Moby or maybe K'tan (which sounds easier to put on) for the early months, and an Ergo for when the baby's a bit older.

 

You may have sold me on the Mei tai though because I do like the idea of something both me and DH can wear that has lots of fabric/color options. And I'll definitely consider a sling though I'm a bit hesitant to use it for a newborn for safety reasons, it sounds like it could be convenient a bit later on.

post #6 of 34

I personally much prefer mei tais to a SSC because the straps more ajustible tan buckles, making it eaiser to get everything just right for comfort. Take a look at the kozy, you can adjust the wideth off the seat to make it easier to legs out a tiny baby. Plus mt cross in the back for a front carry which is way more comfy than back pack straps of an ssc. And you can back carry in a mei tai anytime you are ready to try (lots of ftm wait until head contriol) and back wearing will change your life. Nothing like snuggles and having both hands free to get stuff done. No screaming baby while you despirately make a snack or flip the laundry..

 

ktaan are bunchy in the back , and bunchy means diggy. Plain wraps are comfier longer, but anything with stretch tops out around 12-15#, then the sag and sag equals sore low back and shoulders.  Plus I find stretchies harder to nurse in because they aren't as supportive. Because of limited use, I really recommend buying anything with stretch used, they are not worth the $70 price, but $30 is worth it.

 

Rings rock with squishes. Other slings don't. Bag sling the ones that were recalled and they are unsafe and not available for retail. Pouches like sevenslings are just okay, don't bother, not worth it. But rings are adjutible, supprtive, are easily used in proper tummy to tummy position and and  from newbie to toddler.

 

 

swaps are fun. there are lots of discontinued colors etc. Babywearing has fashion seasons.

pls pardon typos. My tablet hates this forum and does strange things in this editor.
Edited by floweringkale - 12/24/13 at 12:52pm
post #7 of 34

When I was a Nanny I used the Ergo baby carrier even when they were newborns with there infant insert. I loved it! Was so helpful when the little ones were teething and I still needed to get things done. So when I got pregnant I thought we would go with the ergo but we decided to go with a Beco Gemini. The ergo only has three positions the baby can be worn, facing in, side on your hip, and on your back. The Beco looks just like the ergo but has four positions, baby facing in, baby facing out, on the hip, and on the back. So far I think I am going to like it because it feels a lot like the ergo but will have to wait until baby comes. ;)  DH likes it too and is excited to use it. If I was going to buy more then one carrier I would get a moby wrap. Looks amazing for the newborn stage.

post #8 of 34
Becos are smaller, so great for squishes and little babies. Plan to up grade around a year to a boba or a tula, they have wider seats. Facing out always hurts your back, its not something you want for long haul carries, baby can see just as well in a hip carry or a high back carry without putting all that extra strain on your back. Becos are great carriers, you'll enjoy it.
post #9 of 34

My hubby and I are huge baby- wearing fans. It just makes sense. You're going to be holding your little one nearly all the time anyway, and it's such an awesome way to bond and snuggle. Plus I loved the ability it gave me to nurse virtually anywhere, hands-free. Shopping, hiking, at the DMV...the possibilities are endless! Also eliminated the need for carrying around a car seat, I would just put the wrap on prior to leaving the house so I was ready to scoop up baby out of the car and snuggle them right into the carrier. With my first I used the Moby wrap until he was about a year old. At that point I switched to an Ergo. I highly recommend both, they are amazing, although there are many great brands out there. I'd suggest getting a wrap for the first year or so and a snappy adjustable type for around a year and on. Happy carrying! 

post #10 of 34

@floweringkale , what brands do the whole buy-resell thing aply well to?  I'm big on things that I can get a good % of my money back out of (yes its work but I'm with you, its part of the fun of wearing it, knowing I am not paying alot for the thing in the end).   I'd like to try a nice woven wrap and am part of the appros facebook and other groups, but the language is just as confusing to me as code.  What are with the sizes, and is didlymos a brand or a pattern or what?  

 

What I'm looking for (in non baby wrap code) is a long wrap that I can wear a small baby in, ideally one that could hold a 12 mo old in the interim so I can get used to wearing it.  In a brighter color ideally, or something not gray/guyish.  I'm about 5 foot 6 inches but I have a long torso. .  I have a moby but its just not sustainable, it wont' stay in place and stretches out too fast with my babies.  I would like to find something that I fall in love with and can keep for the next ten years of babies or so and still have a chance of reselling it.  I have no idea which of those peices of info may or may not be relevant :)  

post #11 of 34
@Fayebond. If you are petite/small frame, you can do size 5, if average, 6 and if fluffy, a 7. This is called "base size" and it is the size in which you can front wrap cross carry (fwcc). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gJEIYTQRTk&feature=youtube_gdata_playerplayer

Lots of moms like wraps in different sizes than their base for different carries. My base is 6, and I also use size 2 and 3 (called shorties) and 4. But carries in your base are the most supportive and comfy.

Didymos is a brand, a really great brand. They have tons of "colorways" (patterns) and there is lots of acronyms because the name usually is color/fiber/pattern. L is linen, w is wool, h is hemp. You pick it up pretty quickly, and never hesitate to ask. Bwing mommas love to share, they'll help.

Another brand I really recommend is hoppendiz (hopps). They do lots of stripes, which are colorful, easily to learn with and they are great quality wraps at a good price.

But really the most important thing is to buy a wrap you are totally in love with. it is a process to learn, and if your wrap brightens your day because you love it, it makes it more fun to learn.

There are lots of acronyms for the carries too. They also have a pattern and it won't take you long to get the hang of it. watch lot of tutes, pracrtice with a doll and ask lots of questions. High and tigh is the goal.
post #12 of 34
Thread Starter 
Another concern I have is that some wraps/carriers might be too hot in the summer, for example Moby or the Ergo with the infant insert. I live in eastern Canada so it's not like our summers are extreme, but I don't like using air conditioning and I'd rather not have to turn on the a/c just to comfortably wear my baby. Any advice?
post #13 of 34

No experience here, but I fell in love with the K'tan after watching this video.  http://www.youtube.com/v/UkN3oQfRZ2A?fs=1&hl=en_US&rel=0&hd=1&autoplay=1

 

My mom found 2 in opened boxes on ebay for just $15 and gave them to me for my birthday!  One of my co-workers is testing them out for me and she loves them so far with her 6 month old.  She said the weight is so evenly distributed that she could easily wear her daughter all day.  Here is the main K'tan website for anyone interested. http://www.babyktan.com/

post #14 of 34

Oh and K'tan makes a carrier called the K'tan Breeze for the summer time.

post #15 of 34
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 Another concern I have is that some wraps/carriers might be too hot in the summer, for example Moby or the Ergo with the infant insert.

I did not really find that it did bother me. But there are solutions for being warmth sensitive ... I am happy if I am warm, so that might be that... Didymos (which is a brand by the way, the wraps have mostly little firstname names like Katja and Olaf and such) does produce a type of wrap that contains silk and is therefor less warm. I was totally happy with a sling (Didysling that is) for a tiny baby, I could easily wear it, and it does not have a bunch of fabric. So I guess with this May Baby I'll be alright in summertime. 

 

Or I would wear a mobywrap with only a tiny shirt/bra type thing, just don't get out of it in public :) it looks just like a shirt. 

 

I watched the K'tan videos and honestly don't really think it is that useful, I think it is pretty much the same as with an elastic wrap. I mean, it is not much quicker to put it on, and I guess I would loose the second piece within days...

post #16 of 34
mobys need three layers to be safe (any stretchy, including ktaan is the same) so they are definitely warm. Inserts are also warm.

For a cool carrier you want fewer layers and the ability to make a good knee knee seat legs out with a newborn. Ring slings are single layer and the seat is made in fabric so it adjusts percisely .https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqtof1v48Nw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Cotton and linen are cooler than silk (silk is very insulating) or hemp. I recommend sakura bloom linen or wrap conversion rings. You need a bottom weight fabric so stay away from lightweight cotton, quilters cotton rips too easily and is not safe.

Another great option is a kozy mei tai. it has an hour glass shape and can be rolled to get the seat wideth you need. http://kozycarrier.homestead.com. or a babyhawk with a ribbon or hair scrunchies to cinch the seat. becos have the narrowest seats of the SSC carriers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-DlyAxI_uA&feature=youtube_gdata_player


Woven wraps can be worn as a single layer or mult layer depending on the carry. A thin wrap in a single layer is quite cool. i will be using woven wraps and ring slings for the summer.
post #17 of 34
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 Cotton and linen are cooler than silk

I disagree. Silk can be warming AND cooling. That is why people in India make their Sari out of it. 

 

I WANT a woven wrap for this baby, but I probably won't be able to afford it...mecry.gif

post #18 of 34
That may be true for pure silk, but no are 100% silk wraps (with a few handwoven expections). The silk/cotton percentage ratio varies but silk wraps can be described as dense, hot, thick, or as thin, floppy cool. It just depends. Had a lovely silk pass thru, it was very nice and fell into cool floppy category. But a thin cotton or linen is a better option. There are pople who say wool is nice in summer too because its breatheable. I don't wear wool in summer tho, it is too hot. Plus silk is special care which is a pain with a spitty squish. I don't want to hand wash if I can help it.

If you want a budget wrap, check out fb group babywearing on a budget. Everything is under $100. Little frogs are regularly up for $50-60 and I'm seeing hopps (one of my favs) selling for $80-90. Plus you can sell when you are done. So your true cost might be $20-30 if you have no damage to the wrap, a bit more if you bang it up.
post #19 of 34

I WANT this one : 

 

http://www.didymos.de/Babys-tragen/Tragetuch/Limitierte-Modelle/DIDYMOS-Babytragetuch-Orient.html

 

I kind of hinted that to my husband, that I would not be mad at him anymore for not getting a christmas present ... but it's quite expensive ...

post #20 of 34
Orient is nice, but it is prone to thread shifting and can't go thru the spin cycle (Hand wash or stop the cycle). Orient goes up on the swap a lot, usually for a lower price because of thread shifting. You can get in north america from birdies room. http://www.birdiesroom.com/didymos-orient/


My in search of is a thin didy lisca like this. Thin airy and cushy, it are supposed to be awesome with newborns and I love how the three colors blend and shimmer. But im a churner so I will try and sell a few. http://www.birdiesroom.com/didymos-lisca-minos/ or maybe waves....http://www.birdiesroom.com/didymos-waves-silver/. But both of these weaves are prone to pulling so there are pros and con's to each :-) go with what you think is beautiful!
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