Originally Posted by erinmattsmom88
Wow. Where do I start with this. Yes, I agree that you can't prevent everything from possibly affecting an unborn fetus. You can minimize things though, and your examples are weak. You can 100% avoid consuming alcohol and weed. You yourself said that there are not enough studies that give a definitive answer that weed is good or bad to the fetus. So, why take the chance if you don't know for sure??
It's kinda sad that you can't deal with everyday stresses with having more than one kid and feel that weed is the ONLY thing that helps. That's your deal not mine though. If I want to de-stress, I usually wait until I have an opportunity to be alone... not right at the very moment that this happens... "But have you tried starting yoga in the midst of your kids screaming at you with a pile of homework? Doesn't always work so well :)" Why would you start yoga while your kids are screaming during homework time? That kinda sounds like poor time management to me. Pot only helps this situation for you? Try doing yoga in the early AM before kids wake up, or while they're at school, or after they go to bed. No wonder your stressed. I wouldn't be able to start doing yoga if my kids needed me. That doesn't make sense.
Stress levels do affect the baby, that's true. Again, the pregnancy is temporary. A child's life is permanent. Clearly there are healthier options out there for both mom and baby besides smoking pot during pregnancy.
"I did however, use it to help me stay calmer, sleep, and eat, all of which could have effected them negatively had I not done."
Are you serious?????? Sounds like you have other issues going on.
"But there's some women who drink excessively, do harsh drugs, and/or smoke cigs all 9months and their babies are fine too. I'm happy that I found something that got me through the pregnancy sane and w/o loosing all my sleep or weight :)"
Ever hear of fetal alcohol syndrome and crack babies? How about the babies who are born prematurely and at low birth weights because the mother smoked during the entire pregnancy? That doesn't sound fine to me. This happens more often than not in these situations, and that really sucks for the poor kid it happens to.
What about drug testing a pregnant mom or newborn?? You didn't address this. What if a test turned up positive for drugs in the mom and or newborn? That would seriously put you at risk of losing your kid. Is it worth the risk in this scenario?
Oh, I think you misunderstood a lot of what I was trying to get across. I truly am not trying to argue w/you, I understand we all have our own opinions and I respect that you wouldn't choose to partake. However, you've hit a nerve w/your talk of myself having something wrong with me-who are you to judge?
How many studies would it take for you to think something is 100% safe? Would there really be a number? I'm an herbalist and this is the case with most herbs, that's why no one wants to tell a pregnant mom to take many of them, b/c there's not enough studies. But you can find, through your own research, many years of pregnant women consuming certain herbs with absolutely normal results and these are still not recommended if the FDA hasn't been able to do their studies. But we all know that there's other studies for drugs that get released that weren't studied enough, which is why we get recalls and sometiems detremental results. I've talked with several women who's babies were fine, researched it and found several more (look up that jamaican study), learned other civilizations have had this practice with pregnant women, and never once came across any negative effects reported...I go with my gut and it says there's nothing to fear at all.
I never said weed is the only thing that helps, and it's not my kids that do it to me, but I won't get into my childhood and how that's effected me and how I'm able to handle things. Of course I have more issues, I don't know that we need to start bashing though. As I said I use many things to deal with my struggles, please don't point out my faults like that, I'm sure you have your share too but these are beside the point. My example used was meaning homework for her, as OP said the gal's in school with another young one to raise while pregnant. I said yoga b/c others suggested to use that to help with stress. I think of weed as more of an acute stress relief. Sure starting a workout or yoga routine might help with stress buildup, but if you've never been on the verge of screaming at your kids or having the feeling of 'losing it' maybe you're not the best person to be answering this thread? Maybe you're the type of person that can have kids screaming/hurt/sick/whatever when you're needing to get studying done for a test and can calmly take care of everything. If so, I truly envy you, but don't judge others that just don't have it in them. The poor mama got pregnant right after having a baby and is probably dealing w/some serious hormonal issues. I can relate to that and telling her to do some yoga before bed isn't gonna be much help. Telling her she needs to handle her stress better won't either.
So you admit stress levels affect the baby, but pregnancy is temporary. Who cares? How does that make sense? Stress levels effect the baby and their lives, not just in utero if that's what you're getting at? And now try to tell the mama pregnancy is temporary...duh, but she'll have another baby to deal with afterwards so I don't get your point there. And I'd assume she's tried the 'healthier options' and they're not working for her.
Why do you think it's so weird I've used it for sleep, eating, and stress? It's actually quite common to have insomnia, morning sickness, and stress when pregnant. Do you go around telling otehrs they have a lot of issues going on if they can't sleep well or get nauseated their first tri?? That's horrible and ridiculous, especially to say to me knowing I'm pregnant. It's great that you're perfect, but as I said before why would you be on this thread if you have no experience with this? Sounds like you think you're ways are the only ways - no drugs, no pot, just do some yoga in the evenings and be fine! If that was our world it would be great, I honestly would love to be so healthy and happy always!
Of course it's horrible for someone to do anything known to have ill effects to an unborn baby (including letting stress take over or not eating b/c you feel to sick and refuse something that will help), that was my point. No matter what you do you are not guaranteed a healthy baby, plenty of women do everything they think right and still have unhealthy babes. Studies can show ill effects for smoking while pregnant, but then we know many women haven't. I don't rely on govt funded studies. Look it up if you're concerned, there is research out there, but why would the american govt let that be well known? Then they'd look dumb having it still be illegal.
You do have a point with drug testing, though I don't know why that would happen and I have easy homebirths so not really concerned. But, yes, how awful that would be, jsut never heard of that testing w/o a reason!