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post #41 of 96
Yes, the twins are totally skewing our car situation! We have a town and country and there is no comfortable way five kids in car seats and boosters are going to fit. SynEpona, what cars do yall have? unless we go to a passenger van ( or sprinter or nissan nv), I think a suburban is about the only option I can think of.
post #42 of 96
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Yes, the twins are totally skewing our car situation! We have a town and country and there is no comfortable way five kids in car seats and boosters are going to fit. SynEpona, what cars do yall have? unless we go to a passenger van ( or sprinter or nissan nv), I think a suburban is about the only option I can think of.

Suburbans have some unique car-seat challenges! I'd avoid one if you can.

 

DH drives a Ford Expedition - both 2nd & 3rd rows have 3 seats across, and there are tether anchors in all 2nd row positions (this doesn't affect us immediately as DS is in a booster, and both DD & the babies will be rear-facing - but in Canada forward facing seats must be tethered by law, so having lots of them makes it easier to get the best set up.) We've not had a problem installing any seats in it at all, and we tow our RV with it, it had a better tow package/capacity than the Tahoe/Yukon/Suburban options. With 5 kids, you would probably want to look at the extended one, so that you still have lots of cargo space even with the 3rd row up. The Honda Pilot is smaller, but I believe some model years have the tether anchors in all seating positions. It seems these things change all the time, so double check any vehicle, as one year to the next really affects how many car seats you can effectively fit.

 

I drive a Ford Freestyle (my not-a-van!), and love it. Currently it's only a 6 passenger, but we are working on getting the 2nd row switched out for a 60/40 bench seat - they were both available new, but the vehicle is no longer made, so it's a bit of a pain to find the alternate seats.

 

Long term, I imagine I'll end up driving DH's truck and he'll get a newer one, possibly extended version to better accomodate all the camping gear a family of 6 will need/want/pack. He spends all day on the road for work, so a comfy vehicle with lots of room for his work stuff is essential. We get several months of winter and lots of snow, so we only drive AWD or 4WD vehicles.

 

If you want to stick with a van, certain years of Toyota Siennas and Honda Odessys seat 8, and can do 5 carseats in various combos, check the forums at www.car-seat.org :) they are very helpful and can suggest seat combinations to work in different vehicles.

post #43 of 96
Thanks so much for the great info! I do hate to give up the conveniences of a van, but towing capacity is something to consider, as well as comfort. We may be able to smoosh three in the back row, but would be very uncomfortable on long road trips, which will be the only way we could afford to travel at this point:) We have a popup camper as well, and hope to have something able to pull it-definitely will put the expedition on my list!
post #44 of 96
Maybe check a Sequoia too? We rode in my in-law's over Christmas & those things are big! I would think you would be able to sit 3 car seats comfortably, and with a v8 engine you would be able to tow.
We just bought an Acadia & I love it. I'm guessing even though it's roomy it might be a bit tight for you. Ours has a tow package, so we can tow around 5000lbs which is enough for us. It's also a v6 so the gas mileage is better than the v8s. You could look into it just in case. The price point is lower than the giant SUVs, so if it worked for you that would be an added bonus!
post #45 of 96
I'll look into that one too-thank you! I kinda hijacked the conversation to a totally different subject-whoops:)
Back to car seats...what thoughts do y'all have on expiration dates? Our seats still seem to be in good condition-but maybe I'm not thinking of something as I inspect them?
post #46 of 96

Definitely do not use an expired carseat. Bottom line is, they have not been tested to last longer than the sticker date, and there's no telling what could happen in an accident. Plastic degrades over time. It's just not worth the chance. 

 

 

We've got a Kia Sedona, and I really love it. I think there are model years with a bench in the 2nd row, but ours has the captains chairs. Thankfully we don't have to worry about puzzling yet. Our plan so far is to remove one of the 2nd row captains chairs, and put DD in the back row, RFing still. That way it'll be super easy to climb into the back to buckle her in, and can sit back there if needed. Middle row will have the new baby's RFing convertible. And then that leaves the rest of the second row to put bags, etc, without losing them. 

We got our new MyRide in the mail today. It was exciting to see the differences between the models three years ago and now. We don't have immediate plans to buy another vehicle, so for now it's just going to sit in storage until we either buy another vehicle or the new baby comes. 

post #47 of 96
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Definitely do not use an expired carseat. Bottom line is, they have not been tested to last longer than the sticker date, and there's no telling what could happen in an accident. Plastic degrades over time. It's just not worth the chance. 

Agreed. You can get seats for cheap and free ones through the state (in the US). Never use or give away an expired one. smile.gif

In case it hasn't been mentioned there is a fb group called Car Seats for the Littles. You can request to join (we're now over 35,000 members!) and ask whatever questions you have. The admins and many members are car seat safety techs so it's a great place to ask for seat recs for your vehicle & use needs. Also a great place for vehicle recs, safety info, and any question you can think of. smile.gif
post #48 of 96
Thanks ladies! I guess I have some research in store!
post #49 of 96
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I'll look into that one too-thank you! I kinda hijacked the conversation to a totally different subject-whoops:)
 


Which vehicle to drive is completely relevant to carseats! :)

 

In addition, you & I, and anyone with close in age singles, will need to consider how HUGE a double stroller is, if it's compatible with the carseats, and if it fits in the truck .... I'm heading to Babies'r'us tomorrow to check out a couple, I think I have things narrowed down, but need to actually see the size and shape of the folded stroller before I can be certain.


Edited by SynEpona - 1/16/14 at 4:15pm
post #50 of 96
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In addition, you & I, and anyone with close in age singles, will need to consider how HUGE a double stroller is, if it's compatible with the carseats, and if it fits in the truck .... I'm heading to Babies'r'us tomorrow to check out a couple, I think I have things narrowed down, but need to actually see the size and shape of the folded stroller before I can be certain.

I have a joovy ultralight and love it! Super light weight (the lightest double on the market 2 years ago), and folds very flat. Easily fits in the back of my van or in the trunk of a car. smile.gif
post #51 of 96
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I have a joovy ultralight and love it! Super light weight (the lightest double on the market 2 years ago), and folds very flat. Easily fits in the back of my van or in the trunk of a car. smile.gif
I have two singles that I love for different things. .... and one that I'm selling. but now I need a true double with 2 seats that are both suited to little babes. they are so huge and bulky. if DD was older I'd just get a snap and go type, but I need something she can ride in too if I'm wearing one twin.
post #52 of 96

I really love the baby jogger city elite double, which they've discontinued, and is massive. They still make the mini double though, and I know a lot of people who really love that one! We've got the single elite, and I would buy it again 100 times over. 

post #53 of 96

We will be using the Chicco Keyfit again with newborn and have a Radian 120 (rf w/ angle adjuster) with DD 28 months 28lbs.

 

Love the Radian 120. We will move newbie into another R120 around 1 year if he/she is anything like big sis. We have a compact car and large truck that accommodate the seats well (but only with angle adjuster if hubby is driving corolla). We are sticking with bucket for newbie first because the angle adjuster is meant for babes with strong head control.

 

Side note - I never left / carried DD in the bucket seat when we went places. I usually had her in my Moby wrap (so much easier and lighter). As for pairing strollers with bucket seats - I just bought the Chicco Liteway stroller, very compact and folds nearly flat for newbie to laydown in.

post #54 of 96

I don't understand this much. 


Was looking for an eco-friendly (read: non-toxic) carseat.  I noticed that they had this stroller: http://www.babyearth.com/bumbleride-indie-stroller-natural-edition.html?list_id=0&att_typ=,1,&att_val=,1138, and was wondering what else might be available. 


I saw this: http://www.babyearth.com/orbit-baby-footmuff-green-edition.html but don't quite understand what it is/how it works.

These two appear in the same section:

http://www.babyearth.com/britax-boulevard-g4-convertible-car-seat.html
http://www.babyearth.com/britax-marathon-g4-convertible-car-seat.html
and I get bleary-eyed trying to figure out why they're labeled as "eco-friendly" or even what would make them different from each other or any other car seat. 

"Oh, oh, oh.  I got the car seat shopping blues . . . . "

On a side note, I did find a car seat introduction class, but it's far away on a Kung Fu night so BF is out and wants me to go by myself.  :irked  Part of what helps me remember the different things we learn in these classes is having someone there to help drive and talk about it with.  I get lost on my own, especially that far away at night and with that kind of information.  Hoping another class opens up that's a bit more convenient.  It's not cheap ($45) and he says, "why go to a class when they're just going to show you stuff you could learn on the internet?"  I like the structure of a class where all the options are presented and you can touch/feel and ask lots of questions.  I think the cloth diapering class was a great intro. even if I'm having trouble figuring out what to do next. 
Are these classes worth it to those who have gone in the past? 

post #55 of 96
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Unless you're going to have baby in the car for hours and hours every day, I wouldn't stress about the toxic factor. I'd buy early, let it air out at home. You won't want to put anything between baby + seat, as that can negatively affect the fit of the harness - as a rule, no 'aftermarket' products on your car seat, not strap covers, bundle-me type things, head supports, etc. Use what comes with the seat, and skip the rest.

The fabric in carseat covers is treated for flame resistance, which might not be the nicest thought for daily use -- but could be very important in certain kinds of accidents.
The new G4 Britax seats *must* be rear-facing-tethered in Canada, so I'd avoid buying one for that reason alone - the style of tethering recommended is a huge pain to deal with smile.gif
post #56 of 96
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Unless you're going to have baby in the car for hours and hours every day, I wouldn't stress about the toxic factor. I'd buy early, let it air out at home. You won't want to put anything between baby + seat, as that can negatively affect the fit of the harness - as a rule, no 'aftermarket' products on your car seat, not strap covers, bundle-me type things, head supports, etc. Use what comes with the seat, and skip the rest.

The fabric in carseat covers is treated for flame resistance, which might not be the nicest thought for daily use -- but could be very important in certain kinds of accidents.
The new G4 Britax seats *must* be rear-facing-tethered in Canada, so I'd avoid buying one for that reason alone - the style of tethering recommended is a huge pain to deal with smile.gif

The original plan was to let it air out, sun-bake it or . . . something.  Maybe wash the fabric parts, even though I know they don't recommend doing that. 
Well, actually the original-original plan was to buy used, but  . . . .
So now BF is talking about taking car trips and stuff.  I don't like the idea of baby being in a carseat for so long because of the oxygen issues and I'm certainly not a fan of the limited oxygen being contaminated, so this is coming up again.
I get that we need a rear-facing seat for as long as possible.  That's about all that's gotten through this thick head of mine. 

I don't plan on using the infant seat for walking around (because they're really heavy!!), but we'll need one if we use the stroller which just means more time next to the "yucky" stuff, even if we're taking lots of other breaks for the oxygenation issue. 

Does any of that sound right or am I horribly confused about our options?

 

post #57 of 96
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The original plan was to let it air out, sun-bake it or . . . something.  Maybe wash the fabric parts, even though I know they don't recommend doing that. 
Well, actually the original-original plan was to buy used, but  . . . .
So now BF is talking about taking car trips and stuff.  I don't like the idea of baby being in a carseat for so long because of the oxygen issues and I'm certainly not a fan of the limited oxygen being contaminated, so this is coming up again.
I get that we need a rear-facing seat for as long as possible.  That's about all that's gotten through this thick head of mine. 

I don't plan on using the infant seat for walking around (because they're really heavy!!), but we'll need one if we use the stroller which just means more time next to the "yucky" stuff, even if we're taking lots of other breaks for the oxygenation issue. 

Does any of that sound right or am I horribly confused about our options?

 

You're not horribly confused, just overwhelmed!

 

You don't need the infant seat for a stroller, *if* your stroller has a flat recline suitable for newborns. The angle they are in the car is best for the CAR, but it's not the ideal way for a babe to travel all the time. Better to be worn in a carrier or lay flat in a stroller during the newborn stage. Lots of single strollers recline flat (not so much in the double stroller world ... but that's not something you need to think about today!) Some have a bassinet option, which is nice, but takes you to a higher price point, and they're only usefull for up to 3 or 4mths or maybe a little longer.

 

I'm sure you're fine to take long car trips now and then. I wouldn't do one every week :) but we've always taken our kids traveling around from young ages, DS went on a canoe trip a 4-5 hour drive away from home when he was 6mth old. They've both been on 10+hour road trips near their 2nd birthdays. (long car rides are better before potty training ... or well after, not DURING!).

 

You can wash most car-seat covers -- just follow whats in the manual, many are delicate cycle, mild detergent, drip dry sort of thing. Not difficult, just not a 'hot wash, then in the dryer' sort of deal :)

 

ETA: what you cannot do, is soak the straps, or use really strong cleaners on any parts.

post #58 of 96
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We will be using the Chicco Keyfit again with newborn and have a Radian 120 (rf w/ angle adjuster) with DD 28 months 28lbs

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Side note - I never left / carried DD in the bucket seat when we went places. I usually had her in my Moby wrap (so much easier and lighter). As for pairing strollers with bucket seats - I just bought the Chicco Liteway stroller, very compact and folds nearly flat for newbie to laydown in.

 

We're most likely going with the Keyfit this time, and DD is just a bit younger and smaller than your DD -- in a Radian 120 in one car, and the RXT in another :)

 

I've never been a 'take the carseat out of the car' type before --- but newborn twins + not-yet-3yo when they are born, and a busy schedule with DS (almost 7yr) activities ... is forcing the issue a bit, and we'll need to have some options to keep everyone portable, especially since I am on my own from first-coffee until at least dinner time all week. DH's busiest time of year is May/June/July!

post #59 of 96
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I just found this comparison for those of you needing to fit a seat into a small vehicle or a larger one with tall drivers/passengers which limit the back row space.

 

http://csftl.org/battle-of-the-infant-seats/

post #60 of 96

I'm a clueless FTM so I'm susceptible to all the carseat stuff, but my car is definitely making this a bit harder (Honda Element, btw). [Ironically, it could use a few non-critical repairs like that replacement part so I don't get wacked in the calves by the door when the wind blows at that particular angle and I'm on a hill.  Some of those could add up to almost as much, I think and would not be for the safety of DD (as much) in many years to come.] 
Can't find the Combi Zeus 360 anymore and the other rotating option is an Orbit.  Have you seen how much those things cost?! scared.gif  
So, I had this brilliant idea earlier today: buy the stroller used, and the carseat new (i.e. put it on registry).  But . . . even used I don't know what I'm looking at.  Has anybody done this with any model of carseat/stroller?  

Also, what is most important to get new base seat (what the carseat goes on), car seat (the seat itself), or both?

The other option is to try to get the BOB used and the carseat new (Britax for him for sure and . . . another for me, but lots of in/out climbing over the months/years) and just leave it in until she outgrows it, transferring baby from car seat to babywearing and occasional stroller use direct from babywearing as needed. 
We have two cars to accommodate, but mine is the more difficult and the one we'll use more often, I think. 
                                   
This is by far the most expensive thing on the list new/used/whatever.  The recliner might get expensive, but everything else I seem to be able to get a fairly good deal on or it's cheap enough for the registry.  

I know it seems nuts to put this much in at first, but I'm thinking about it this way: Ask for the moon (at least with this one item/set) with first baby and try to use it again and again and again for any others.  I'm really trying to see this as an investment overall, but the deal-maven in me is horrified and wants to never leave the house for the next 8 years (which is clearly impossible).  

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