Originally Posted by Katie8681
That's interesting, but although the headline of the coffee article was misleading (it should have read "Dehydration not shown to occur in a group of moderate coffee drinkers when compared to a control group with equal water consumption" maybe?), we are discussing the article "A two-phase study evaluating the relationship between Thimerosal-containing vaccine administration and the risk for an autism spectrum disorder diagnosis in the United States".
Seems to me that special attention should be paid to authorship of articles that reach conclusions opposite to the current state of the science. Just doing some more reading on the Geiers and I am really aghast... Did you see that Dr Geier lost his license to practice medicine in Illinois, Missouri, and Maryland because he and his son opened clinics in which they gave autistic children series of high-dose Lupron injections, for SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS PER MONTH? These men are charlatans and they made a lot of money from the blood and pointless suffering of autistic children. Please read this complaint and tell me it doesn't turn your stomach and make you think, hmm, maybe their research is simply not trustworthy.
I see Janet Kern works at the Geiers' "Institute of Chronic Illnesses" (address is the Geier home). She's been a close associate for years. Was very much into the business of chemically castrating autistic children. Nice.
Guys, these people are not your friends.
I think it's far, far more complicated than you realize. For many autistic children, there are major issues with testosterone, as early as 5 years old, with those issues severely worsening at puberty. These issues include seizures.
It doesn't take much to see that there may be a link between testosterone and autism; remember that boys are 4 times more likely to have autism than girls (interestingly, this is the same male/female ratio we see with mercury poisoning), and there is a subgroup of autistic children who have seizure disorders. There is also a subgroup of autistic children who experience precocious puberty, AND LUPRON IS INDICATED AS A TREATMENT FOR PRECOCIOUS PUBERTY: http://www.lupron.com
There are studies indicating a benefit to prescribing hormone inhibitors for seizures.
The Geiers did some good research on this: http://www.ageofautism.com/2008/04/mercury-testost.html
We know the pharmaceutical industry (and the medical industry as well) is capable of witch hunts, and often tries to get medical licenses revoked. Sometimes there is good reason to do so; sometimes, it's when a doctor gets too close to an uncomfortable truth.
I don't know enough about the Geier's case to be sure either way; but I do know of autism families whose sons improved enormously on Lupron. I know of others whose sons did not improve at all; they were not pressured into continuing treatment, and they are still fully supportive of the Geiers.
Here is what is probably a very different account of the Geiers than what you have previously read: http://www.bolenreport.com/Mark%20Geier/attack%20on%20geiers.htm
According to that, they only prescribed Lupron after lab testing indicated a medical reason to do so, and payment for both the testing and Lupron went directly to the lab and to pharmacies, not to the Geiers themselves. Please read the whole article.
I am concerned that you're repeating deliberate (on the part of the Let's-Bash-Vaccine-Critics) fear-mongering when you talk about "chemically castrating autistic children." If you're going to go there, shouldn't you be consistent, and accuse all doctors who treat premature puberty with Lupron of "chemical castration?"
As far as the Geiers are concerned, I have no way of knowing where the truth lies. Neither do you.
From my perspective, though--my son, who was diagnosed with autism, did indeed experience precocious puberty. We chose not to do ANY medications--not ADD/ADHD drugs (which were VERY aggressively pushed on us), not chelation, not homeopathy, not Lupron, and no further vaccinations. We felt that any of the above, with his complicated medical history, would have been experimental at best. We did not do any naturopathic treatments, either.
But I would totally understand why parents of an autistic boy who was experiencing seizures and precocious puberty, might want to try Lupron as a treatment.