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Thread Starter 

I'm writing an article for Crain's Chicago Business about the big vaccination rift, and I'd love to speak with anyone who has lost friends/ gotten angry with friends or family/ or had a big issue with someone because they wouldn't (or would) vaccinate their children. 

The story is about how the vaccination debate has become so heated that there has become a big divide - and people are losing friends over it because they feel so passionately about the issue. 

If this is you - or if you feel strongly either way - I'd love to interview you for the article (if you want, I may even be able to arrange a photographer to take a picture of your family for the story - but this isn't necessary). 

Please give me a call at 708-657-4343.

Thanks!

post #2 of 10

Interesting story line. We'd like to see the article you publish. Would you please share it here when you do? Thanks. :)

post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 

Will do. And if anyone wants to share their story for my article, I'm finishing up today or tomorrow and still have a little room for another anecdote or two. Please email me if you want . . . danielle_braff at hotmail.com

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post #5 of 10
OP, I must say, I am troubled that you're focusing your article on people losing friends over the vaccination issue.

Maybe you should try interviewing parents of vaccine-injured children. I don't think they care whether or not they've lost friends, or even alienated family, once their child lost their health, or even their life as the result of vaccination.

You could start with the 2000+ cases of vaccine-induced brain damage, admitted and compensated by the US Department of Health and Human Services. Many of these cases include a diagnosis of autism. In fact, a far greater percentage of these cases include autism than the general population.

Then you could move on to cases of lupus, Guillaine-Barre, and paralytic diseases, caused by the hepatitis B vaccine, the flu shot, and Gardasil. These, too have been conceded and compensated by the US government.

You might also want to interview the parents of Hannah Poling, Bailey Banks, Ryan Mojabi, Emily Moller, Misty Hyatt, Julia Grimes, and Kienan Freeman. Their cases of vaccine-induced brain injury that led to autism were all conceded and compensated, as well--and then hushed up.

Please don't forgot the parents of children who died from vaccine reaction. Michael Belkin would be a good start. His testimony to Congress can be read here: http://www.health.state.mn.us/divs/idepc/immunize/immrule/comments/comment17.pdf. I believe he may still be a member here at mothering.com.

Your article would be little more than a fluff piece if it doesn't include the real-life, concrete reasons why many parents are delaying or withholding vaccines: the fact that either their own child, or a child they know, has had a documented serious adverse reaction to one or more vaccines.

ETA: Adverse reactions to vaccines, like adverse reactions to medications, often go initially unrecognized and unreported, due to industry coverup of harm during testing phases, as well as during post-marketing surveillance. See thalidomide, Vioxx, etc.
Edited by Taximom5 - 2/22/14 at 4:41am
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I want to add one more thing, to counteract what seems to be a near-universal misunderstanding.

The misunderstanding: We are told, over and over again, that "thimerosal was taken out of vaccines in 20001, yet the autism rate keeps climbing! This is [supposedly] proof that thimerosal/vaccines are not linked with autism!"


First of all, thimerosal was never "taken out" of vaccines.

Vaccine manufacturers began producing thimerosal-free versions of previously thimerosal-preserved pediatric vaccines in 2001, but continued to manufacture, sell, and distribute the less expensive thimerosal-preserved vaccines (abbreviated here as "TPV's"). Pediatricians on the US continued to use TPV's until at least 2004. Adult vaccines in the US are still preserved with thimerosal. So are flu shots, including those given to infants and women in all stages of pregnancy.

TPV's are still being used in all developing countries.

Second of all, the "current" official rate of autism in the auS, as announced by the CDC, is based on studies from 2008--which uses data concerning autism diagnoses in 8-year-olds.

EIGHT-YEAR-OLDS. IN 2008. These children were born in 2000, BEFORE thimerosal-free versions of the vaccines they were given were in use. In fact, they received MORE thimerosal-preserved vaccines than children did who were born a few years earlier, as more vaccines were added to the schedule, and they received them earlier, as the day-of-birth dose of Hepatitis B vaccine was added to the schedule.

It seems that nobody bothers to do the basic math. The current autism rate is NOT based on children who got thimerosal-free vaccines. It's based on rates in children born before those vaccines became available.

And we don't have--and will likely NEVER have--data on children never given TPV's. Flu shots are not considered "pediatric vaccines," and are therefore preserved with thimerosal, even though they are now routinely given to infants and pregnant women. Back in 2001, they were not recommended for those groups, and were not considered "pediatric vaccines."

ETA: I think it's very, very important that anyone writing ANY article (even a fluff piece) concerning "the vaccination debate" be aware of this problem. I've read too many articles that subscribe to this fallacy, some even quoting doctors who STILL say, "oh, thimerosal isn't even in pediatric vaccines anymore," (false, see flu shot discussion above) and "but autism rates are still climbing after we took thimerosal out," (false, see discussion above).

Most journalists today don't bother checking whether the doctors they are quoting are actually correct.


Edited by Taximom5 - 2/22/14 at 8:54am
post #7 of 10

Oops, I didn't see the post last week where the OP said she was finishing up.    I didn't see any articles this month by Danielle Braff, on the vaccine issue or anything else, though I did find some old articles by her, where she recommended getting the flu shot.

Hopefully, she is reading her notification emails from this site, telling her that there are comments posted on the thread she's started.  

post #8 of 10
Well, here it is. http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20140315/ISSUE03/303159990/friends-find-themselves-on-either-side-of-the-vaccination-divide

I could nitpick little things, but it's actually pretty well done. I understand the mistrust of reporters on this site, given past violations of our trust irked.gif, but I think she gave the NV and del/sel parents a good voice.
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Originally Posted by Turquesa View Post

Well, here it is. http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20140315/ISSUE03/303159990/friends-find-themselves-on-either-side-of-the-vaccination-divide

I could nitpick little things, but it's actually pretty well done. I understand the mistrust of reporters on this site, given past violations of our trust irked.gif, but I think she gave the NV and del/sel parents a good voice.

 

I'm sorry, I don't agree.

The vaccinating mom quotes a non-vaccinating friend as saying that a mom"should be shot for giving her 6-month-old a flu shot,," but the comparable "pressure" experienced by the non-vaxing chiropractor is only that the school nurse lectures her on the horrors of polio.  That's not comparing apples with apples, or even with oranges.  The standard comparison is of the horrors of polio vs the horrors of vaccine injury.  She's making vaccine defenders sound reasonable, and non-vaxers sound like they're planning murder.

 

And what does she mention as the reasons parents might turn down vaccines?  Jenny McCarthy and  the Wakefield paper as linking autism with them MMR, and as being debunked--NO mention of bowel disease, which was the real point of the paper.  No mention of a single one of the 60+ studies showing harm from vaccines and vaccine ingredients.

 

Her description of the chiropractor's view of vaccine issues is that they were what she "perceived" as "possible" side effects.  That implies that there really aren't side effects. 


There is no mention whatsoever of the documented harm caused by vaccines, nor of poor efficacy of the measles and mumps portion of the MMR, of the flu shot, or of the pertussis shot.  Links to these were provided to her nearly a month before her article was published, so I don't see any excuse for her not mentioning those as reasons why many don't vaccinate.

She does describe a mother of a child who had a heart transplant, who won't allow non-vaccinated friends near her son, which at first sounds understandable, until the mom is quoted as saying, "If they were to have the flu or chicken pox and didn't know and infected him, he could die."

For crying out loud, the varicella vaccine is a live-virus vaccine, as is FluMist.  If her friends were vaccinated with either of those within a few weeks of seeing her son, they would be shedding live-virus cells and be MORE likely to infect him than non-vaccinated individuals!  ANYBODY coming from the grocery store could pass on any cold or flu-like virus--or norovirus, for that matter--and that could kill him.  So she should keep her child away from pretty much everybody, not just the unvaccinated.

I can't say I'm surprised by the article; it fits with pretty much everything else that's been in the media.   I certainly wouldn't say she gave a good voice to the non-vaccinating parents.  not by a long shot.

I probably shouldn't be disappointed, but I am. 
 

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She does describe a mother of a child who had a heart transplant, who won't allow non-vaccinated friends near her son, which at first sounds understandable, until the mom is quoted as saying, "If they were to have the flu or chicken pox and didn't know and infected him, he could die." 

My late friend had two kidney transplants. His grandchildren had to stay away from him for two months after they got their vaccines.

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