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http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Fordham-University-Mumps-Outbreak-Students-Affected-246236101.html

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All the affected students had prior vaccinations against mumps, Fordham officials say. Doctors say even vaccinations don't offer 100 percent protection. 

Must have been the lot that was not effective....oh wait, didn't two virologists lie about the mumps efficacy?  

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How much more evidence do we need of the failure of vaccines? The powers that be don't let these annoying little things get to them. "More boosters, more boosters".

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I find it really frustrating that the mumps vaccine (as part of MMR) is pushed on kids when they're just entering the age where they would be best able to handle the infection, but then the immunity starts to wane just as they're entering the age where catching the mumps can be most problematic.  Also, we had a small mumps outbreak here a while back, and it was very interesting to watch how diagnostic criteria, etc... were affected by the word "outbreak".

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Originally Posted by Mirzam View Post
 

How much more evidence do we need of the failure of vaccines? The powers that be don't let these annoying little things get to them. "More boosters, more boosters".


Yeah, these stories are great selling points for more boosters. We see them as failures, and rightfully so, but unfortunately they will be used as reasons to inject even more people. Selling vaccines to all ages, what a great marketing strategy!

 

Would you accept this failure rate from any other product? Would you use failure as a reason to buy even More of the product?  No way.

 

Are there any updates to the mumps whistleblower lawsuit? I haven't heard anything since the story first came out.

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Are there any updates to the mumps whistleblower lawsuit? I haven't heard anything since the story first came out.

Not that I have heard of. As with everything else, they will do all in their power to bury this and marginalize the whistleblowers. How many whistleblowers get air time on the MSM these days?

post #6 of 16

From what I have read in recent years is that there are more and more such 'outbreaks' occurring on campuses especially in fully vaccinated populations. How good are booster shots given in teenage years after having received the regular rounds as baby?

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Originally Posted by rachelsmama View Post
 

I find it really frustrating that the mumps vaccine (as part of MMR) is pushed on kids when they're just entering the age where they would be best able to handle the infection, but then the immunity starts to wane just as they're entering the age where catching the mumps can be most problematic.  Also, we had a small mumps outbreak here a while back, and it was very interesting to watch how diagnostic criteria, etc... were affected by the word "outbreak".

 

You know, I've been wondering about that.

A few years ago, one of my kids' friends ended up having surgery to remove lymph nodes in his neck, because he got sick and they "swelled up alarmingly."

 

My first thought was that the doctors didn't know how to recognize mumps.

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 remove lymph nodes in his neck, because he got sick and they "swelled up alarmingly."

Were they biopsied after they were removed to find out what was going on?

Yes, they sure do not know how to recognize these diseases any more.

 

Doctor use the blame game against the non vaxers if one of these diseases shows up; "if people would just get their damn vaccines and vaccinate their kids we would not have these outbreaks! And I have shared my story of how my niece and son were not properly diagnosed for measles because the young ignorant intern was clueless.

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Were they biopsied after they were removed to find out what was going on?

 

 

I don't know.

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I feel like even though I've never personally experienced or known anyone who had mumps - my mother and her siblings did and that would be my first thought if DD swelled up.  Ok that's a lie, my first thought would be a food allergy because she is allergic to oats so swelling equates to allergy here! So I'd give her rescue remedy and then see that it wasn't a reaction that was going down and then move on to mumps!  But it baffles me that just because kids gets vaxxed for these things, parents don't even recognize what the diseases look like....I mean at the very least, if these docs are going to push vaccines and try to scare parents, couldn't they at least include pictures?!  It's almost sad, that new med students will never know how to diagnose these things, they will of course be reclassified as new diseases, and we start he process all over again.  I can recall watching one of those mystery ER shows about kid with scurvy - parents fed the toddler nothing but oatmeal because "that's all he likes" and couldn't understand why he had crippling arthritis at 2 yrs old.  But it took forever for them to get a diagnosis because no one was asking the important questions!  They assumed every disease under the planet....no consideration for nutrition.  Finally told them to feed him the occasional orange :irked

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Originally Posted by applejuice View Post
 

 

Doctor use the blame game against the non vaxers if one of these diseases shows up; "if people would just get their damn vaccines and vaccinate their kids we would not have these outbreaks! 

Yes, here's our old friend Paul Offit:

http://www.thedp.com/article/2014/02/autism-not-linked-to-mmr-vaccine

 

And look who's staunchly defending him in the comments--none other than Dorit.

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And look who's staunchly defending him in the comments--none other than Dorit.

someone sure has lots of time to post! :rotflmao must be on the daily email as to where to post and what's best to say to all stay on the same page!

post #13 of 16

Doctor Mendelsohn in his oldie but goodie book, How To Raise A Healthy Child says in chapter 19,
 

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 Mumps is a relatively innocuous viral disease ...
causes swelling of one of both of the salivary glands located just below and in front of the ears ...
Typical symptoms are fever 100-104 F, loss of appetite, headache, and back pain.
Gland swelling is diminishes after 3-4 days and should be gone in a week ... however one gland may be affected, and then the other gland in 10-12 days, (so there are variations)
Mumps does NOT require medical treatment.
Encourage your child to rest for 3-4 days, feed a soft, light diet of fluids and ice chips and juice.

I had mumps at age ten, almost eleven. It was uncomfortable, but no big deal. I believe it was the last of the childhood diseases I had.

 

There is a body of thought that believes that having mumps for women will protect them from ovarian cancer. I mentioned this on a mainstream board - I was told I was correct, but no one in the medical community would ever recommend that little girls run out and get mumps to protect them from ovarian cancer as women.  This link suggests it -

http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2012-10-09/mumps-protects-against-ovarian-cancer-vaccine-steals-the-protection/

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I had mumps around the same age as you applejuice. I had a very mild case, with very little swelling. My brother had it at the same time and had a worse (but not terrible) case which is probably why my case was even recognized as Mumps. 

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Originally Posted by applejuice View Post
 

Doctor Mendelsohn in his oldie but goodie book, How To Raise A Healthy Child says in chapter 19,
 

I had mumps at age ten, almost eleven. It was uncomfortable, but no big deal. I believe it was the last of the childhood diseases I had.

 

There is a body of thought that believes that having mumps for women will protect them from ovarian cancer. I mentioned this on a mainstream board - I was told I was correct, but no one in the medical community would ever recommend that little girls run out and get mumps to protect them from ovarian cancer as women.  This link suggests it -

http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2012-10-09/mumps-protects-against-ovarian-cancer-vaccine-steals-the-protection/

maybe they can make a new mumps vaccine to protect against ovarian cancer! Get the shingles vac to fight the CP vaccine that doesn't work!

post #16 of 16

My older sister had mumps at age 7, I believe. One of my friends presumably had mumps (doctor was not really sure about it :W) but nevertheless she got married 2 days later despite her swollen cheek and neck with over 100 people and little kids around all getting in close contact to hug/ kiss the bride.

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