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post #1 of 23
4/28/04 at 11:52pm
Thread Starter 
what do you do when you live in one & plan to send your kids to school??

Kayden is 3 (today ) & I plan to send her to school next year..
she is partially vaccinated....

the required for SC are
Three (3) doses of any combination of DTP, DT, DTP-Hib, DTaP, or Td vaccine with at least one (1) dose received on or after the fourth birthday.

Three (3) doses of any combination of oral or inactivated Polio vaccine with at least one (1) dose received on or after the fourth birthday.

Two (2) doses of Rubeola (Measles) vaccine with both doses received on or after the first birthday and separated by at least one month.

One (1) dose of Rubella (German Measles) vaccine received on or after the first birthday.

One (1) dose of Mumps vaccine received on or after the first birthday.

Three (3) doses of Hepatitis B vaccine.

One (1) dose of Varicella vaccine received on or after the first birthday or positive history of disease for all children admitted to kindergarten, first, second, third, and fourth grades.

she had the DT..
did have polio .. but i want do it anymore.. so no one after 4
I dont plan on doing MMR at all
we did do Hepititis B
& wont do chicken pox at all

so.. what do I need to do?? how hard is it to get a medical or religious exemption??
our doc is great.. lets me do what i want with vaccines & always praises my decisions .. but Kay has NO medical issues what so ever.. so I dont know about us getting a medical exemption

as far as religious.. we dont attend any churchs..
do they ask for proof?

the school I plan to send her to is a christian school.. would this matter?
post #2 of 23
4/29/04 at 12:07am
We are claiming a religious exemption. You might want to talk to the school about it. We're planning on sending our kids to our church school and they don't need to be vaxed or have an exemption go there.
post #3 of 23
4/29/04 at 1:12am
edited to remove location
post #4 of 23
4/29/04 at 2:15am
Religious exemptions -

you may be asked for your membership in a religious group that does not believe in vaccinations as Chrisitian Science and then you may be asked about your membership at the church and how long you have belonged and how active you really are, how often you attend services or the such - - -

No one is allowed to ask you this and you are under no obligation to answer such a question since your "religious beliefs" are really none of anyone's business. There have been many court cases in this regard.

Dr. Mendelsohn went to court as a medical specialist for a Rabbi in Monsey, New York to say that medically it was perfectly O.K. not to vaccinate your child. The Rabbi was a minister of the Universal Life Church and claimed a religious exemption against vaccinations. Three Rabbis were religious witness for the Rabbi to say that it was perfectly O.K. for a Rabbi to be a minister in the Universal Life Church. The Rabbi won his case and was able to send his eleventh child to school without vaccinations. He and his family had decided to live a more natural life after watching the long, painful death of a close relative from cancer.

There is still a First Amendement to the Constitution and you have every right to that right - -

- - -someone is always going to challenge your rights. No one is entitled to these rights they have unless they are willing to defend those rights.
post #5 of 23
4/29/04 at 3:28pm
I live in SC too (although we homeschool) and from what I have read all you have to do is fill out a religious exemption form from the Health dep., you don't have to have proof any church or a reference. Just incase thjey ask though decide a relgion to tell them that is against vaxes. You don't have to have any proof you really belong to it.
I'll try to find the site I found this info on and I'll post it.
post #6 of 23
4/29/04 at 3:36pm
http://www.nvic.org/state-site/SouthCarolina.htm

http://www.scdhec.net/hs/diseasecont...ion/school.htm

It appears you do need to be a memeber of a religion that doesn't believe in vaxes but all you have to do is write that you belong to such and such religion on the exemption form.
post #7 of 23
4/29/04 at 3:37pm
With the chiropractic school in Spartanburg, there are a ton of kids attending school around there with no vaxes...I think that my fellow students would just do the religious exemption, or tell the doctor that the children were allergic to eggs, milk, formaldehyde, and whatever other vaccine components they wanted to include to get the medical exemption.

I forgot SC didn't have a philosophical exemption.
post #8 of 23
4/29/04 at 3:48pm
Molly, I was born in Spartanburg and lived there a lot of my childhood, do you live there?
post #9 of 23
4/29/04 at 3:52pm
You can always joing this group. They have no churches to attend in real life, but membership will cover you in a state that requires membership in an actual church...

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/cuw/index.html
post #10 of 23
4/29/04 at 5:26pm
Sheacoby, no, I only lived there while attending Sherman College (the chiropractic school with the unfortunate name ). I did come to like it though, especially the baseball games...at the time they had the Spartanburg, um, Phillies? Not sure. They moved the team to Kannapolis before I was done with school. But I loved b'ball games at the little park there, even though the Marlboro man advertisement was on up on the fence in the outfield.



(completely off topic, wow, this is quite a braxton-hicks I'm having right now, zoiks!)
post #11 of 23
4/29/04 at 5:38pm
Those braxton hicks will get you in the end! I thought I was in labor a month before I had AJ. lol I used to live in Greenville...I know, OT.
post #12 of 23
4/29/04 at 9:49pm
In Florida it is medical or religious too. We have religious. It is a BIG BLUE certificate and I have one on both girls. No one asked about religion- I just had to sign a paper that "vaccines are against my religious tenets or practices"
post #13 of 23
4/29/04 at 10:44pm
I have heard that it's best not to admit to ANY vaxes if you're going to claim a religious exemption, or at least not to do any more from the point in time that you state you have a religious exemption. I.e. it's an all or nothing exemption, you can't selectively vax under a religious exemption.

If you did want a vax later (like say you changed your mind and wanted to do chickenpox at age 5 if she hasn't already had them) you could go to the health department to get it so it wouldn't be in your doctor's records.
post #14 of 23
4/29/04 at 11:38pm
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quirky
I have heard that it's best not to admit to ANY vaxes if you're going to claim a religious exemption, or at least not to do any more from the point in time that you state you have a religious exemption. I.e. it's an all or nothing exemption, you can't selectively vax under a religious exemption.

If you did want a vax later (like say you changed your mind and wanted to do chickenpox at age 5 if she hasn't already had them) you could go to the health department to get it so it wouldn't be in your doctor's records.
thats another thing i worried about with claiming religious..
I wonder if it would help that the last vax she recieved was at 12 months.. nothing after that & by the time we register she'll be 4..
we could all a sudden have found religion..lol

but i dont plan on vaxxing her anymore
post #15 of 23
4/29/04 at 11:45pm
More off topic sorry Nikki.
I live in Greenville now.

Okay back on topic, of course you could have recently found a new religion!!! Since you don't plan on vaxing anymore at all I don't see any problem with you using a religous exemption!
post #16 of 23
4/30/04 at 5:58am
I agree with Quirky.

You know what vaccines you gave her, and you should keep records of that for her. But as far as a school goes, if they require vaccines you probably are better off to go with an all or nothing approach. They're not going to care what your reasons are for only giving her some of them. In many people's views, if you gave her some, you can give them all to her. Because your average person does not see any difference between a Polio vaccine and a Hib vaccine, or a DTP and an MMR. They're just 'vaccines', not any one different from the other. Does this make sense?

You might have some leeway with a Christian/religious school. One by us says they neither require or not require vaccines, it's all the parents choice, and not under their (the school's) authority. I would check and see what their policies on vaccinating are and take it from there.
post #17 of 23
4/30/04 at 7:23am
Massachusetts only has religious exemptions. I was a wreck getting the first one. Then I realized what a breeze it was. The school nurse had the form, and it said right on it that no one could ask you any questions, or harrass you in any way. I just signed that it was against our religion, and no one asked what one!
post #18 of 23
5/7/04 at 7:51pm
Red

I am so happy to hear of your expereince in MA. My dd is 16 months and has only had dpt. I am planning to do a religious expemtion too.

Amy
post #19 of 23
5/7/04 at 8:49pm
Don't know how you (or anyone else) feels about it, but if you have a vax record for your DD already, could you just fake the rest that you need on the form? Just a thought.
post #20 of 23
5/7/04 at 10:26pm
Abranger,

Did you not vax at all or selectively vax? DD has already gotten some vax's and may get more (though not all) and I'm wondering how the religious exemption would work?
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