Friends Chat Thread April 29 - May 15

[mommycaroline]

Okay, new topics in summary (and if I forgot something important, please repost!):

Lena girl posted a question about sleeping: Does anyone know where they are having their baby sleep? I think I'm going to try to do the bassinet in the pack n play in our room. There's just not room in our bed. DS takes up to much room for a little guy, I need decent space to sleep comfortably for my back, and DH (whole always has the most space to begin with) is always saying scoot over. I just don't think there's room for one more. Now if DS would sleep on the mattress on the floor or in his super cool race car bed... Well, now that's wishful thinking now isn't it?

Jlcampbellkidz posted: Hypnobirthing? I am interested but I don't think we can afford classes. Does anyone have advice or has been through it. Basically I have heard good things from woman who have chosen to use it for thier births. I am just not sure were to look or begin and what's available for how much $$$ Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Had a 25 1/2 week apt. with the midwife today. I gained 6 pounds since my last visit. I fully expected to get griped at but she said it was good since I had just made it back to my starting weight at the last visit. I was measuring 26 1/2 weeks. First time to be measuring larger than my weeks. I can tell the baby and I have had a growth spurt. I need to take another photo to add to my belly pics and then I will share with you all. Glucose test next time. I don't mind the drink cause I love orange soda but i hate the one hour wait and blood test. My sister had GD with two of her three pregnancies. I really don't want the test to come back with (-) results. Urgh. I hate prenatal tests

Apmamma posted: Well Laurie I understand your concern about the Glucose test... I had my appt today and did not even think about the possibility of testing high...but guess what, I did, and now I have to go in for the 3 hour test next Friday


I am a bit worried b/c I am measuring 28 weeks and I am only 26. My CNMW thought it was weight gain but I only gained 3 lbs since my last months visit and have gained total only about 15lbs. She measured me before the test and I did not get to see her after the test so I do not know if the two could be related..just my assumption.
I have also been having vision issues that I have been ignoring and now wonder if it all is adding up.
I am 35 and my grandmother had diabetes so who knows.....all I know is that I am not looking forward to fasting ...I am fearful I may pass out with no food until 12pm(my appt is for 9am) since I cannot eat at all after midnight the night before my appt. SO that will be 12 hours no food.

I sure I hope that next Friday's test comes back that I do not have GD.

*sigh*

Stressing out about $$$
Stressing out about diapers......changed my origional plan....

My BFW instructor is coming to see us on Sunday...happy for that!

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That about covers it! I'll post my stuff later.

[mommycaroline]

Lena: I'm setting our crib up sidecarred next to our king sized bed. Hoping babe will sleep there, and the rest of us will maintain our current sleep positions - me, DD, DH. I've never used a sidecar arrangement before though, so we'll see how that works. I know the bedrail we had up for a while drove me nutso, couldn't get out of bed very easily, so I'm holding out judgment until babe is here. We also have a toddler bed in our room, which is currently near where the crib will be. I'm also half hoping that DD will want to move herself down there, away from all the nighttime activity.

Laurie: I completely homestudied Hypnobirthing. Worked like a charm, as I posted in our last chat thread. Well, except I never made it to delivery. But, I had a "hard" labor, so I'm convinced. I bought the Rainbow Relaxation tape, and the tapes at www.newwaychildbirth.com and I preferred the New Way tapes. It was under $100 for the full series, I believe. I think I'll be buying them again, but on CD this time. I really should have started them already, but there's time. Good luck on the GTT. Mine's coming up in a couple of weeks. I'm with you in hoping like heck I pass, but I'm fairly certain I won't, since I had GD last time.

Traci: Man, too bad about the one hour test. I'm planning that if I don't pass the one hour, I'm just going to accept my fate. The three hour is grueling, and I don't have childcare. Have you looked at http://www.plus-size-pregnancy.org/gd/gd_index.html Even if you're not plus sized, it's really good information about gestational diabetes. Check it out. You might discover something about your symptoms that reassures you, or not, but it's better to know, if there's something serious.

As for us, well, Bonnie took a major fall at the playground yesterday. I think her tooth might have almost gone right through her lip. She cried for about 45 minutes, nursing off and on. It was only when I realized that she wasn't calming down for anything, that I decided to call her doctor to take her by Urgent Care. She wouldn't let them touch her, so they said as long as the bleeding has stopped, she should be fine. Just keep giving her popsicles, or cold compresses, and keep an eye on her.

That was her first scary accident. Took a lot out of me. I think *I* was actually more upset than she was. Later on, she was just as happy as a clam. Here are some pictures from this month. The last three were taken last night. Her lip is swollen, and it looks like she has some lipstick on one side. But, it's really gory inside her mouth. She only has a minor cut just under her lip where I think her tooth started to break through. It didn't really bleed as much as the inside.

It's been four days since I threw up! I probably shouldn't mention that, since it will likely jinx me, but I'm so excited!

[christeenybeany]

Hello all!
I have been extra sensitive to smells lately!!! I walked into someones's room at the hospital today (I volunteer) and their "odor" made me want to gag. Just something about the way the room smelled. It may have been a combination of sweat and body soil and diapers. Who knows. The other day I went to a paper store and they must have been painting or something because the smell just made me want to puke. I rushed to the door to breath fresh air and had to stand there and ask the clerk to help me.
apmama--I hope your test goes smoothly, you too jl. Is that a "routine test" or do they just do that to some pregnancies. I haven't had it yet. I guess it is coming up though since most of you guys are weeks ahead of me. Aren't you supposed to fast that morning? So I would know if it were my next appt, right?
Guess what! We are going to have a cute little baby soon!

It's getting closer and closer! Yeah!

[Bearsmama]

Caroline-You are good! Thanks for starting us out with the new thread.

I've only had time to scan the last few posts...

AP- Sorry you tested high on the GD test. Please let us know how things go next week. I haven't stressed about it either, but I have the darn little bottle of stuff sitting in my cabinet and all I have to do is make the lab appointment-but I haven't yet. Diabetes doesn't run in my family, but I knwo that doesn't mean much for your odds during pregnancy. I have gained a lot of weight so far, so sometimes that makes me wonder about my odds, too. Ugh, I'm sure this is a stress that you don't want to think about. The good news is that much of pregnancy GD can be controlled with simple diet changes (the little I DO know about it). Thinking of you...
So crazy that these tests and bad results can totally affect your whole mood, spirits, etc. We go through so much on this roller coaster ride of pregnancy!!

I know there's been some talk about where the new baby will sleep in all our homes. With DS, we had a co-sleeper, but we never used it. DS always slept smack-dab in the middle of us in our bed. But for the next one we're wondering what to do. I am considering purchasing a cradle of some sort. But our co-sleeper (I *think*) converts to some sort of bassinet-type thing. I would just like another option-especially b/c our little toddler is an acrobatic sleeper and I want an option of having the babe sleep elsewhere.

Caroline-Sorry about your little Bonnie's fall. Sounds terrible. That kind of thing is so exhausting and emotionally draining for BOTH of you. BTW, what a beautiful girl!

Anyway, things here are okay. Now, I'm thinking more about this dreaded GD test, too! Went to visit an older relative today and I thought I was going to pass out. The room was way to hot, no circulation, etc. I've become so sensitive to temperature. The bedroom at night MUST have a slight, cool breeze coming in either from the window or the ceiling fan.

Feeling TONS to movement lately. So bizarre to me that in like 3 MONTHS we will have babies in our arms (and laps, and on our breasts, and in our beds-everywhere!). DS is acting like he doesn't need me AT ALL lately, so the thought of a little baby cuddling up against me, well, it's kinda nice!

Okay, off to check the boards quickly and then to bed. Hi to all my friends here that I haven't checked in with. Thinking of you all!!

[mommycaroline]

Christine,

Yes, the test is pretty much done to everyone, but in some cases, they do skip it. If you refuse it outright, though, they just go ahead and label you gestational diabetic. You might not know it's coming, as some offices don't do it in house. At my midwife/OB's practice, they send you to a lab. It may depend on your insurance, too. Anyway, I know it's coming cause I was positive for GD last time, so I'm already on the lookout. Plus, they check my blood sugar for every appointment, just to be on top of it. Grrr!

And, my official due date is August 23, so you're actually one day ahead of me. Although, you never know, I may have lied about my dates so they don't induce me too early.

And, yeah, it's starting to hit home that we're having a baby! We just went through a chicken pox watch, and I was hoping like heck that Bonnie would catch them, but she didn't. On the 21st day, which was Tuesday, I realized that was probably my last chance to go through chicken pox one child at a time. Next go around, there will be a baby to consider. Yikes!

Oh, and thanks Bears! I happen to think Bonnie's pretty beautiful too! But, then, I guess I'm a little biased.

[Solange]

Thank you Mommycaroline for the new thread.....

Thank you also for the link.
I am pretty sure I have GD as I was up reading the info from the office this morning and I fit at all levels. I have had 2 major hypoglycemic episodes (I did not know that it what they were called at those times) in the past 2 months and just everything else that I Have had going on makes sense.
I just do not want to end up having to give myself insulin shots so I hope I am not that far into GD. Do you have to give yourself shots Mommy caroline?

To top things off I woke with a bloody nose this morning at 5am...boy that was fun...

ttyl

[lena_girl]

to everyone facing GD, and for everyone doing the GTT test. I volunteered in a hospital lab in high school and i always felt so bad for the mammas facing the 3 hour. Good luck to all. I get to skip the test b/c I have hypoglacemia (low blood sugar) so I'm not likely to develop diabetes (hyperglacemia). I'm glad b/c last time I couldn't keep the orange stuff down.

Sorry about your dd's accident Caroline. It's hard when a little one gets hurt

Bears, my little one has been moving like crazy too. It's like and octopus in there. DS just kicked up into my ribs (oww) but this one moves everywhere.

I can't take any classes b/c of $ and time issues, but I am trying to learn different things from books. I have Natural Childbirth the Bradley Way which has been really helpful. I like that it has lots of practice scenerios in it for DH and I to do. I am also checking books out from the library. Hypnobirthing sounds great! My mom had me using hypnobirthing, she was part of an "experiment" to see the effectiveness of it, and she found it very effective.

Anyway, mammas, enjoy the last of April! May seems so much closer to July/Aug/Sept when we all deliver. Does anyone think they are much more likely to be either early or late? I think I'll probably have mine in July b/c ds was early and every child my mom and grandma had was always early. Usually around 38 weeks. But who knows?

[LizaBear]

Re Sleeping

We have a crib set up as a side-car right now, and that is where our son spends *most* of the night. He still scooches over next to me in the early hours of the morning.

We'll be adding Li'l Bug to our bed, and I think we may just have to be a bit more firm about keeping Boo in the crib until morning, or re-introducing him to his own bed (his room has been out of commision for a while now, while we re-organize the apartment).

Anyhow, that's the plan - we'll see what actually happens when Li'l Bug arrives.

New Question

I'm 23 weeks, and my eyes feel like sandpaper lately - anyone else ?

[Solange]

Originally Posted by lena_girl

I have hypoglacemia (low blood sugar) so I'm not likely to develop diabetes (hyperglacemia). I'm glad b/c last time I couldn't keep the orange stuff down.

SO I am confused now...lol..why does the GD sheets I have talk about symptoms of GD as symptons of low blood sugar???...lol....

[ketilave]

I am bitter about edds - that's because my dates are 7/23-7/31 but I know this baby isn't coming until Aug. So, jealously and with true joy I am going to be reading birth stories for some time! You would think doing this 2x I would learn some coping skills but alas no. Because of my u/s date I won't have to worry about induction until the end of Aug. No one in my family has ever gone early and my mom went later with each kid. My conception date is 10/30. I'm thinking that is a long time to be pg.

Not doing any classes or self study. When I have a "job" to do I get very internal and tune out everything anyway. For me the biggest relief is being in the water so that where I plan to hang out.

I have a good friend who wants to do labour pics but DH is kind of not into it. She did my belly pics. The link doesn't want to attach at the moment.

Later

[frognladybugmama]

re: baby's sleeping arrangements, i'll be setting up the packandplay/bassinet attachment thing soon (well in another month or so)...jake and shelby each sleep in their own beds now, but we'll be transitioning shelby to a big girl bed from her crib soon to minimize jealousy of the baby "taking her crib" yk? we coslept with jake till he was @2yrs, then shelby has always been such a different child - independent like her mama and wanted to sleep alone at @9ish months...she just wouldn't sleep with us peacefully, too many nights of her laying her head on dh's head and her nasty night dipe on my head and we were ready to try her crib...no crying, no fuss, she jsut started sleeping there...we'll probably cosleep(and use the packandplay) with this one as long as it wants as well...
i will be skipping the GD test this time around again...i did it with jake(made me terribly sick, i mean how natural is it to slug that much glucose at one time? i sure as heck don't chug sugar like that on a normal basis!), didn't have GD and had a large baby - with shelby, i didn't take it - won't this time and i know the dr is fine with it and doesn't label me GD automatically b/c we opt out as someone above said...all tests done are elective, i elect not to make myself puke since i've got no risk factors and have proven i can deliver a big baby (even though i'm teeny non-pg)...
i've got my 24.5 wk appt on tuesday, is it strange that i love going to the doctor? lol, i look forward to visits, 'course i will get to hear the baby's heartbeat again and that's neat...looking forward to discussing L&D with him again too...
last week we didn't have phone/net for a few days (lousy phone co took their sweet time fixing it) and so i spent a lot of time sewing for ian...i got 9 more nb diapers made, 2 smalls and 2 meds...and i also made him two of the sweetest rompers...i'll have to take pics, i'm enjoying sewing for him so much...now i need to take a break from sewing for him and make shelby some summer pj's, poor kiddo has none!

[Dodo]

I have never been offered this GD test. I don’t think it’s routine where I live.

My plan is to move dd out of our bed before the baby arrives. I’m also hoping to borrow a bassinet. Right now, co-sleeping seems a little old, but I hope I get over that, since it’s most practical when nursing an infant.

I feel low this morning. I started crying after dropping dd off at daycare. Dh was mystified. I’m sad that I can’t be everything for my dd. At the same time, I question why I think I should have to be.

[lena_girl]

Originally Posted by apmamma

SO I am confused now...lol..why does the GD sheets I have talk about symptoms of GD as symptons of low blood sugar???...lol....

Hypoglacemia is low blood sugar and hyperglacemia is high blood sugar (diabetes). Someone who has hypoglacemia produces too much insulin, and a hyperglacemic produces too little. Sometimes the hyper. is caused by somone eating too much sugars for their insulin to keep up with. Someone with hyper. will sometimes have episodes of hypo for 2 reasons (that I know of) 1st if they are taking insulin and have not had enough to eat there is too much insulin in their bodies (like in Steel Magnolis when she has the attack in the salon and has to drink some juice). 2nd, if you have hyper your body will try to kick in making more insulin (and will sometimes succeed) and you could be caught with an empty stomach and too much insulin. I don't think that a hypo can have an episode of hyper. In general a hypo's blood sugars are usually too low and a hyper's (diabetics) is too high. Have I confused you yet? LOL I guess I've just had hypoglacemia for so long, I forget that most people haven't even heard of it, and a lot of people don't really understand what diabetes is about either.

For a hypoglacemic the attacks and problems are caused by the insulin. On an empty stomach the insulin will start eating other stuff instead (like the stomach lining). Eating sugar makes it worse a lot of times because it tells you body "okay now we need to make even MORE insulin" I have to eat often and avoid too many simple sugars. Complex is better.

Are there many differences between GD and normal diabetes?

Sorry this is so OT (and boring! LOL)

[mommycaroline]

GD is pretty different from "normal" diabetes, in that it's probably a normal physiological response for most women. Personally, I think it's mostly a bogus diagnosis created to perpetuate the management of pregnancy as an illness, but that's a soapbox I'll try to refrain from stepping on.

If you have any risk factors, you will get this test, unless you have a very unusual doctor. If you're seeing a midwife, you will *probably* get this test if you have any risk factors. But, if you've already made it through one pregnancy with a "normal" sized baby and had passed the GD test, have the same doctor, and your weight is unchanged (or very close) you'll probably also be able to skip it. But, I guarantee if it's recommended that you take it, for *any* risk factor whatsoever, if you refuse, you will just be automatically diagnosed with GD, a very CYA maneuver. The risks that I can see are fairly negligible. Mostly just a large baby, although there can be some repercussions shortly after birth for the baby (which I'll explain later).

GD is caused by insulin resistance, putting you in the hyperglycemic category. They're not exactly sure why this happens to some women, and as I said, it's probably a normal physiological response. In most cases, it can be controlled by diet (as mine was) but sometimes, there is a call for insulin. From what I understand, if you need insulin while you're pregnant, you very likely are going to have ongoing blood sugar problems after you've had the baby. I think if you need insulin, it could very well be a sign of undiagnosed Type II Diabetes ("normal" diabetes). Your blood sugars will probably stabilize somewhat after the baby is born, but you should probably continue to watch your diet (which is actually a good idea for anyone...).

The diet that you follow is actually quite liberal. You can have carbs, you can have just about anything, but it's the combination of foods that's key. A very common sense diet, really. If you're having breads, make sure they're whole grains and you're consuming fat and protein at the same sitting. In other words, don't just snack on a piece of Wonder bread. The problem that I have with the diet is that you have to eat 3 larger meals a day, as well as 3 snacks per day. And, each time you eat, you're suppposed to wait 2 hours after you eat and test your blood sugar. Sounds easy enough, but honestly, I could never eat the entire meal I was supposed to, so I would end up hungry an hour or so later, and want to finish, but couldn't cause I had to wait until I tested my blood sugars. This time, while I have not yet been diagnosed with GD, I'm eating the way *I* feel best, and the heck with whatever a nutritionist tells me. I killed myself trying to follow that diet for about a month last time, and when I had NO unusual blood sugars, I just gave up. I felt so much better when I could eat half a sandwich, and then an hour later eat the other half, then an hour later have some nuts, then an hour later maybe a piece of fruit, etc. I feel much better if I just graze all day while I'm pregnant, rather than have full meals. My stomach just can't take much food at once, and I get heartburn, or nauseous and throw up the whole thing. Whatever I did last time worked pretty well, cause my DD was a "normal" size, I only gained 10 pounds (I'm pretty overweight, so they watch my weight very closely) and her blood sugars were fine after birth.

The most complicated repercussion for the baby is low blood sugar at birth. If you have GD, you're constantly cranking out huge amounts of insulin, cause your body is resistant to it, so you just keep making more and more. While the baby is still in your uterus, this doesn't really pose a problem, as whatever the baby can't use just goes right back into your system. But, after birth, if the baby is born with all that insulin in their system and nothing to use it on (sugars, food, etc) their blood sugar can plummett, causing some major problems - lethargic baby who won't eat (which is exactly what they need to do to counteract the insulin), sometimes the baby can slip into a coma if their blood sugar drops low enough, and this can cause brain damage. Pretty frightening stuff. So doctors flip out over baby's blood sugar, cause it can really be a serious problem. BUT, if you're nursing on demand, and you're able to nurse RIGHT AWAY before the baby is lethargic, baby will get colostrum which is protein packed and will help slow the whole process down. As long as they continue to nurse frequently, there should be no problem. AND, if your blood sugar was under control while you were in labor, you should also be just fine.

But, in a medicalized setting, this often doesn't go the way it should. Baby may not be allowed to nurse right away, so blood sugar drops, they give baby glucose water by bottle, which could interfere with the nursing relationship so baby is ineffectively nursing, which sets up a whole cycle which is really hard to break. As soon as baby burns off that insulin, though, the blood sugar issues are resolved, which is why they think glucose water is the answer, but that can set you up for all sorts of other problems down the road.

I'm planning on expressing some colostrum in the final weeks of this pregnancy, just to have some on hand in case there are any problems, whether I'm actually GD or not. I just don't want to go down that road. My DD was born with perfectly fine blood sugars, but I don't want to take any chances. And, I will feed the colostrum MY way, and not by bottle. I'm having a hospital birth, but boy they don't know what they're in for if they mess with me.

[Solange]

OT:More GD discussion

:
Gosh Caroline and Lena_girl

Thank you so much you two for taking all that time to post the info.

Caroline
I also cannot eat big meals and I too like to just graze all day long while preggo...it just makes more sense to me and I feel better! I hope I do not have GD!

My doula agrees with you Caroline about the whole GD issue.
She sent me this link:
http://www.gentlebirth.org/archives/gdhgoer.html

Lena I went back and reread the papers I have and it says the exact same thing you did about becoming hypo while being diabetic....so I understand now, after your post it makes even more sense too.

My only issues are I do exercise everyday...pilates for pregnancy
I do not eat sweets
I do eat a lot of carbs but good carbs like wheat breads, rice, baked potatoes, ect....
fruits and veggies a ton...
I am lacking in protien.....
I am lacking in the milk dept....
I dodrink a gallon of water or more a day....
so I think I do eat healthy...yes I have my ocassional slip of Wendy's salad or spicy chicken sandwhich but that is maybe 1-2 x a month.

Who knows I must quit obsessing and just wait until next Friday....
sorry to take over the thread girls....
move on....

[lena_girl]

Originally Posted by mommycaroline

GD is caused by insulin resistance, putting you in the hyperglycemic category.
The most complicated repercussion for the baby is low blood sugar at birth. If you have GD, you're constantly cranking out huge amounts of insulin, cause your body is resistant to it, so you just keep making more and more. While the baby is still in your uterus, this doesn't really pose a problem, as whatever the baby can't use just goes right back into your system. But, after birth, if the baby is born with all that insulin in their system and nothing to use it on (sugars, food, etc) their blood sugar can plummett, causing some major problems - lethargic baby who won't eat (which is exactly what they need to do to counteract the insulin), sometimes the baby can slip into a coma if their blood sugar drops low enough, and this can cause brain damage..

Just wanted to add a few more thoughts. First the type of diabetes that I know most about (what I called normal) is type I. GD almost sounds similar to hypoglycemia in that too much insulin, the difference being I guess that my body actually uses (or tries too) use all that insulin. My son was born with low blood sugar and needed for it to be brought up with a bottle of sugar water (but I like your idea of expressing colostrum instead). It was hard because we had just started nursing him and they tested his blood while I was nursing. Then I had to stop and give him something I definately didn't want to (a bottle) but I knew how dangerous low blood sugar can be. I've have several really scary attcks in my life. (Once my eye color even turned purple!)

And I also wanted to add that I really hope the best of luck for you ladies and your little ones. I hope you keep us posted on how you are doing with it.

[Jillybean]

Hey all

Haven't had much time to post but I've been keeping up.

Chiming in on the GD stuff. I have my second one next appt. (14th) my mom is a type 1 diabetic and also had GD with my little sister so I am fairly high risk. My first test turned out great and I haven't noticed any symptoms so I'm optimistic that the next one will be fine. Apmamma, so sorry you have to take that awful 3 hour test. Good luck!

and about sleeping arrangements: Well the plan was to have ds start the night in his room, then sleep in his twin pushed up to our bed after he wakes up during the night. But he still finds his way to the sweet spot in the middle sometime during the early morning. So now I dunno... guess we'll keep on working with ds to stay in his room or the twin.

Dodo: sorry you are having a hard time. I can totally relate to feeling sad about not being able to do everything and be everything for your child. I think dads can't understand b/c there was never a time for them when they *were* everything, like a mom. Hope you are feeling better

Bears: been feeling lots of movement here too. Squirming more than kicking and punching like ds did. This kid moves mostly at night, too which has me worried about him/her sleeping all day and being wide awake at night... not fun. I think our ds' must be channeling each other! I was just thinking about how much he doesn't need me lately and how nice it will be to have a baby who does! And what is it about 12-1 am? Must be a good time to wake mom up!

Well I am feeling huge lately. I really am not very big, still just a little belly and most of my shirts are way too big. But I *feel* huge LOL. Can't pick things up off the floor, waddling, bumping things with my belly. I realize, of course, that I will be getting much bigger. Man what will month 9 look like? scary...

anywho, thats all for me. My sis is on her way to help me make an asian-style carrier. Should be fun! ttyl

[mommycaroline]

Originally Posted by apmamma

My only issues are I do exercise everyday...pilates for pregnancy
I do not eat sweets
I do eat a lot of carbs but good carbs like wheat breads, rice, baked potatoes, ect....
fruits and veggies a ton...
I am lacking in protien.....
I am lacking in the milk dept....
I dodrink a gallon of water or more a day....
so I think I do eat healthy...yes I have my ocassional slip of Wendy's salad or spicy chicken sandwhich but that is maybe 1-2 x a month.

Actually, from what I've heard, potatoes and rice are really not good for a diabetic. Something about the glycemic index, I think you get high blood sugar spikes after eating them. Best to avoid them altogether, but if you simply must have them, have brown rice (which has more fiber) or sweet potatoes (not sure why these are considered better, but they are).

Originally Posted by lena_girl

First the type of diabetes that I know most about (what I called normal) is type I. GD almost sounds similar to hypoglycemia in that too much insulin, the difference being I guess that my body actually uses (or tries too) use all that insulin.

The reason I think that GD is more like hyperglycemia is that yes, you're producing boatloads of insulin, but your blood sugar isn't responding, so you have high blood sugar all the time. Fasting sugars are even higher than they should, which I think would not be the case for someone with hypoglycemia. If a person routinely has very high blood sugars, and we're talking in the 200's, 300's or higher, then a drop down to say 180 would be a crash, and could create the same symptoms someone with hypoglycemia might experience at 50, if that makes any sense.

I had two abnormally high blood sugars all last pregnancy. One was after I had some donuts, and it was 158 2 hours later, and the other was after I had a Blizzard from Dairy Queen, also reading 158. Certainly not that unexpected considering what I'd eaten. And, you know what? I think it's perfectly okay to have stuff like that from time to time, if your diet is overall pretty good.

I just hate having the extra eye on you when you're diagnosed. I have heard of women having extraordinarily high blood sugars when they're pregnant, and again, I just don't think that is gestational diabetes. I think that's a person who had diabetes before they got pregnant, and only during pregnancy did someone discover this.

[NewMomDeb]

Hi, new here

Hello everyone!
I've been lurking for a while but decided to join in finally. I'm Debbie, mom to dd Brooke (1/25/02) and I am due with another girl on Aug. 11. I'm very excited, and am feeling good except have been MUCH more tired this time around. I'm sure it has to do with trying to keep up with working 4 days a week and a very active and energetic 27 month old.
Don't have a ton of time right this second but hope to post more often.

[naturegirl]

First of all Hi Debbie! I am due on August 10th!

I am not getting the GD test either. No real family history or anything so my mw is okay with it. for all those ladies getting bad results though. Hope things get worked out.

Sorry I have been MIA. I just can't keep up!

I have been feeling great and busy buying little outfits, diapers, etc. I have recently realized that I soon have to get serious with the "big" stuff like car seats, cribs/bassinets, etc. My MIL bought us a convertable crib so our sleeping arrangements are to push that up to the side of our bed and have the baby co-sleep with us with a little extra room. IYKWIM?

I am also feeling alot of movement lately. It is so awesome! I am loving it.

Nice to chat with everyone again!

TTYL
Cheryl