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post #21 of 23
it is so hard!
i can not pick what is best for me :
open antivaxtivist or protect my family from everyone and keep it to myself....

although, sometimes i worry about the gov coming after me for not vaxing (although i have personaly published anti vax med research articles and have a very healthy child to boot...)

but i always go back to how i learned about not vaxing, or htat vaxing was dangerous in anyway...that there even was a choice!

a midwife stood up in my child and infant develpoment class in college (we were both education majors) and told her anti vax story.
the professer almost yelled at her afterwards (the prof, had been a biology major in college.)
anyway, i liked the midwife and respected her, but i thought she was nuts....and dangerous, and felt sorry for her kids!
well fast forward 6 years and she delivers my little nonvaxed baby (at home)
and i feel certain that i owe her my life (well, my daughter's life anyway)
she planted a the seed,
i want to give that to other momas!
post #22 of 23
Thank you wakeUpMama:

Just to let you know, since I was never vaxed and my family ate and lived an alternative lifestyle (vegan, no vaxing, homebirthing), I would pray during our family prayers in the 1950's that people would turn to the way we did things.

So, you and your midwife and all of MDC are answers to my prayers.

BTW, that professor should have been turned over to the administration and reprimanded; part of acquiring a higher education is to learn critical thinking experience an exchange of ideas and share cultures and experiences. Your professor would have told you that the earth was flat and that you can make gold from anything if he had been in the Universities of the middle ages and all of the establishment would have backed him/her up.

Nice to know nothing has changed in the last thousand years.

I actually had a professor who would not allow any one to ask a question during her lectures. She was due for a sabbatical leave at the end of the semester. No one needed it more than her.

Do not worry about professors. They live in a protected environment and do not know what life is all about. These are people who have probably never left school since they were five years old.
post #23 of 23
My motto is don't ask, don't tell; if someone does ask me point blank I do tell them, and then I go on to explain the my nephew was severely handicapped due to vaccine damage and died when he was 14 and they don't really have a retort to that. I live in a small town, of about 2000, and 500 people attended his celebration of life so all I really say is, remember Tanner...that was my nephew. They all knew his story. I'm always temped to say once they have been to the funeral of a loved due to vax damage only then can they judge me...but I never have to say it, it doesn't get to that point.

My family is very supportive. My close friends are supportive, although most have chosen to vax...some more selectively. I have told friends before they asked me but only when I can tell they will be open minded, like when they've disclosed their fear of the MMR, etc. There was only one time I told a friend who I thought would be like minded (she is against overuse of antiboitics, antibacterial soaps, etc.) and I got the "but don't they have to be!!" from her, as well as a bit of an attitude that "if everyone vaxed they'd be gone" to which I did have some info to counter offer...I know that most times when you get that reaction from people it is based on fear...I turn it around on them and say that the fear they have of their child getting one of the illnesses is the exact fear I feel about what might happen to my DD if I gave her the shots. I am sympathetic to their fears as I once had the same.

If someone comes and asks me for info then I will pass on whatever resources I have, but for the most part I try to stay out of the debate because it will quickly become apperent that I feel that children become damaged by injecting toxins into them, and I would not want to make my friends feel that I think they made a mistake....just like I wouldn't want them to make me feel like my decision is wrong.

One thing to note, because I live in a small town and have told some people, I am sure that I'd be quite surprised to find out who really knows! I remember being curious about people not vaccinating and knowing of some who weren't when I really had no right to know anything about them...it's the kind of gossip that spreads rather easily. So far no one has ever approached me on it.

Another thing I just have to add...the thing that drives me most crazy is when people who vaccinate but are aware that they can be dangerous tell me that "they trust in God that everything will be alright"....don't you think if you really trusted in God completely you'd trust in the way he designed our bodies to accquire natural immunity!!!! (I hope this doesn't offend anyone, I just find it ironic how I don't go to church, yet I have a higher sense of faith in a higher power than some people who's lives revolve around it).
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