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post #1 of 28
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A neighbor invited my girls (nurslings) and I over to her house yesterday during the day for her daughters one year birthday get together. It was during the day and small with 2 other moms and their kids (who were 2-6 years old)

So I am sitting there with W (hostess) and her two friends from church when Avery (6 mos) starts figiting so I start nursing - I am very descreet - actually wearing a nursing top and W asks me to cover up with a blanket because her son (8) is right there (4 feet away). I was very caught off guard just because I thought it was ok since she is a nursing mom and it was a small group. I must have had quite the expression on my face - she went on to mumble something but I honestly couldn't hear - I wasn't looking at her and could just feel my ears turning red. I didn't even have a blanket but used my Maya.

Today she calls to see if my 9 y/o can play with her son - I tell her no.
Then she asks me if she offended me yesterday and I told her I wasn't really offended but caught off guard. I told her that I didn't think it would be a good idea for me to be in her house until Avery is weaned 2+ years from now if she isn't comfortable with me nursing.

She went on to say that she would never nurse in front of other people without a blanket. I asked her if she used a blanket in front of her 8 year old and she told me yes!

I told her that I wouldn't be comfortable eating under a blanket and didn't expect the girls to do it. I told her if I was feeding her a bottle it would be ok and that it's just a different container. She said no, it's not a different container, it's sexual.

I told her that the boys were there when the girls were born and have seen me naked (she gasped) I told her that I was proud that the boys saw breasts as baby food first and that they have probably seen at least a dozen different women breastfeed in front of them without a blanket.

She then mentioned something about her son coming to my house. I told her that I didn't think it was a good idea anymore because I'm not going to cover up the girls in their own home. She told me she always covers up when my boys are there - even if they are upstairs. She then told me that if her husband had been at home yesterday she would have asked me to leave the house!
Her husband never wants to see another woman breastfeed.

Now, this is certainly not the most enlightened woman. She and I have had a difference of opinion on several subjects regarding child raising (she beats - not spanks her adopted 8 year old son bare bottom)
I guess I'm surprised by this but I'm not. I knew she was conservative but I had no idea!!

FWIW If I am in the house of somebody that I don't know well or even a family member I have asked if it is ok if I nurse or should I leave the room - I have always been told "Of course it is ok" I didn't ask because she is a nursing mom and I assumed - silly me.

She then brought up that New Years Eve 1.5 YEARS ago I was BFing my now almost 2 y/o at her house and that it made people uncomfortable and they told her so
The more I think about this the more it bugs me

The silver lining is that I have an excuse to not spend any time around this woman for at least another 2 years

Keri
post #2 of 28


my first reaction, after the "find a new friend fast" reaction, is that it's sad, with her being a nursing mother and all, that she feels that way.

amazing.

fwiw, you'd totally be welcome at my house!
post #3 of 28
Thread Starter 
Thanks Mamaley I don't consider this woman a friend - just a neighbor.
The relationship has been hard for me as I feel she makes poor parenting choices.
I have had some positive influence on her (she is nursing afterall) I was hoping that some of my practices (not that I am perfect) would rub off on her and she would get a clue! Unfortunately for DH I always walk away from our encounters ranting! DH is glad that I have finally had enough.

Keri
post #4 of 28
Weird! Her husband doesn't want to see another nursing mother? Feeding a baby is sexual?? People are so strange. Well, at least you don't have to spend anymore time with her. But I feel bad for her son. Poor kid, being beat by his mom.
post #5 of 28
WOW.

That woman has issues. Her poor kids.

You did nothing wrong, I know that you know that, but it's good to hear, too.

Again, WOW.
post #6 of 28
It's sad that people are so...ignorant? I dunno -- I'm pretty although I shouldn't really be surprised, I guess. : I think it's awesome that you stood up and set limits (i.e. no visiting, etc.). Maybe she will realize how ridiculous she is being -- and now you don't have that extra stress in your life!

You rock, mama!
post #7 of 28
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Originally Posted by kerikadi
She said no, it's not a different container, it's sexual.


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Originally Posted by kerikadi
She then told me that if her husband had been at home yesterday she would have asked me to leave the house!
Holy s***!

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Originally Posted by kerikadi
she beats - not spanks her adopted 8 year old son bare bottom
post #8 of 28
it sounds like you handled it well--telling her simply that you won't be spending time with her until your children wean in their own time is a great idea. you don't need to be around people like that, and your children don't either. if you covered them up, that would be showing THEM that their nursing is something to be ashamed of, rather than something to be proud of.

i can't understand an attitude like that. but it sounds like she has other issues as well, and you're probably better off not associating with her until she gets a clue.
post #9 of 28
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Originally Posted by kerikadi
Today she calls to see if my 9 y/o can play with her son - I tell her no. Then she asks me if she offended me yesterday and I told her I wasn't really offended but caught off guard. I told her that I didn't think it would be a good idea for me to be in her house until Avery is weaned 2+ years from now if she isn't comfortable with me nursing.


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She said no, it's not a different container, it's sexual.








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I told her that the boys were there when the girls were born and have seen me naked (she gasped)
Uh, lady, your babies came through your vagina, remember? With their faces and everything! They've seen you naked already.



Good grief. Glad you're off the hook with this woman.
post #10 of 28
I am stunned by her views of nursing. I can't even believe she would bring up something that happend 1.5 years ago either. She should have kept that to herself, that is their issue not yours. If they are uncomfortable, they need to either leave the area or not look.

How is nursing sexual? Maybe she should answer that question in 2 years when you talk to her again.

Just because you are neighbors doesn't mean you have to be friends, just friendly. Keep it to hi and how are you and go back into your house or to whatever you were doing.

Good for you for letting her know that you won't cover up and that it would be better if the kids didn't play together until weaning. How much did they play together before?

Doreen
post #11 of 28
I would cut all ties with this lady. If she harps on it, I would tell her that SHE has sexual issues that you do not feel confortable exposing your kids to. That's true.
post #12 of 28
Keri, I liked how you handled it, too.

That woman is so confused, its hard to know where to start!

I'm glad she's out of your life for at least 2 years, and I'm glad you didn't feel you had to accomodate her weird views!
post #13 of 28
I'm at loss for words on this one!
post #14 of 28
Wow. I nursed in a children's play area last night and my husband overheard a woman say, as she pointed to me, "There are children here!" WTF? They had the good sense not to say anything to me, though.

You handled it much more calmly than I would have. Good for you! That woman and her husband have some serious issues, and unfortunately their kids will, too. I notice that kids never even look twice at me when I'm nursing, it is always the parents gawking.
post #15 of 28
Oh my goodness. I can only imagine your feelings. FWIW, I think you handled it great. I could only hope to have that much grace and restraint under those circumstances.

I am indignant for you. How dare she ask you to cover up at a backyard birthday party, feeding a 6 mos old. Ridiculous!

"Sexual"...how sad and ignorant. Sorry, strong word, but it bugs me.

I guess we can only keep hoping to change the world one booby at a time!
post #16 of 28
How the heck is she managing to bf if she has issues like that???

Good for you kerikadi!
post #17 of 28
Mothra said: "my husband overheard a woman say, as she pointed to me, "There are children here!"

What's the problem? Did they need to nurse too?
post #18 of 28

and we wonder why men grow up to have such

negative (or possesive or sexual tension) towards women?!?! That woman has issues and unfortunatly she stands for a large part of the commercialized America I'm so sick of. What could be more nat'l or educational than bf'ing in front of a male child? I think right off the bat it teaches respect for women!

oh well, you're better off without her!
Kimberley
post #19 of 28
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Uh, lady, your babies came through your vagina, remember? With their faces and everything!
:LOL That's a good one. i love it.


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post #20 of 28
I think you handled the situation splendidly! Honestly, I feel so sad for that woman, its a pity she doesn't celebrate what her body is!

As an aside, and I almost didn't post this, as I am so not trying to get on your case, but it pains me every time attitudes such as your neighbors are associated with being "conservative".
I am in many ways a social conservative, taking my cues from biblical Christianity, but the book I read advocates gentle guidance, compassion for the needy, extended nursing, family bed, and respect for the earth as much as "conservative" things like integrity of property and sanctity of marriage. My crunch factor is derived from my "traditional religion", you could say.

I really mean this as no offense to anyone here, just its sad to me, is all.
Again, I'm really glad you stood up for your family, and think you have set excellent boundaries. Good job!
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