Palestine? - Page 2

[Abby]

There are also Jews who remember "being kicked out of there homes, they remember where they used to live" in countries such as Iraq. Does this mean I, as a Jew, should not recognize this country (and this is not meant to start a debate over the current state of affairs there right now, but rather as a retorical question)

I dont think anyone in this thread is saying that Israel as a state has not made mistakes that have had a devestating impact on the Palestinian people, and I am not saying that 2 wrongs (2 countries kicking people out) makes either one right, the OP wanted to know what the use of the word Palestine to describe a geographic area which emcompasses the current state of Israel might possibly mean.

[Heart.Revolution]

Originally Posted by Mom2six

So the people of Jordan and Turkey, which both recognize the state of Israel, either aren't "real" Muslims (NOT) or are countries full of Muslims that support the oppression of the Palestinian people.

Right.

you are putting words in my mouth.
show me were i said they

aren't "real" Muslims

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Abby,
I am concerned about the oppression of people all over the world. Anyone, no matter were they are from, who has suffered due to an oppressive governing force, deserves justice. With out justice there can be no peace.

Were was the justice for the jews when they were being oppressed by the nazi's...were is the justice for the palestinians who are being oppressed today?

religious beliefs aside..just look at the situation.

[crazy_eights]

Originally Posted by aminah

i do not recognise israel as a country, and I do not know anyone who does. I do not know why a muslim would, maybe they support the oppression of the Palestinian people.

Hmm, well I took this to the logical conclusion. Either a) you don't know about Turkey and Jordan OR b) know about them but assume that they support the oppression of the Palestinian people. Don't see that that was putting words in your mouth.

And equating Israelis with Nazis (which you are doing indirectly) is minimizes the horror of the Nazi regime and uses the Holocaust for promote your crass political agenda. The OP specifically asked about the historical perspective of the use of the word Palestine and you have chosen to politicize this.

[BelovedBird]

Originally Posted by aminah

Were was the justice for the jews when they were being oppressed by the nazi's...were is the justice for the palestinians who are being oppressed today?

I wish the jews were "oppressed" by the nazis! Instead of being sent to death camps, gas chambers, ovens and the lucky ones- forced labor camps.
Please, can anyone show me any of these in ISRAEL? I've been all around the country (and its really small) and I've never seen evidence of any of these.
Or was that comparison showing the author's leanings toward holocaust denial, to go along with the stateofisrael existance denial?

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I really don't want to close this thread, it has been so enlightening for me!
But, this is not the Activism forum, and certain posts leave me wondering whether you have even read the guidelines here, or if you are blatantly disregarding the reason we have this forum.

Please try to stay on-topic. Any further posting that I feel is political debate rather than an attempt to clear up misunderstandings on the subject will result in this thread being closed and/or removed from this forum.

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