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post #21 of 28
Our dd1 and dd2 are four years apart - which we purposely chose because my sister and I are four years apart and it worked so well in my own childhood/teenage years.

Four years apart - they still play together but not jealousy because they aren't both vying for the same volleyball team or homecoming court. You will always be competing against someone but it is nice that it is not someone who lives in your house.

You also make life a little easier re: finances as you are not buying expensive prom dresses, camp, (or paying for college, wedding, etc.) more than one at a time - it is spread out a bit.

A four year old can help you - answer the phone, go grab a diaper or bib, play on the floor with the baby while you run to the bathroom!

Also, a four year old WANTS a little more independence - going to preschool, old enough to have a day out with auntie or have a playdate with a neighborhood friend. They are not in the "only mommy can do it" stage.

They are potty-trained so you don't have to stop nursing to wipe a bottom!

They are old enough to understand the situation and wait a bit if needed. Just more patience and understanding that you need to do certain things for the baby.

The thing I love about four year spacing is that you get some one-on-one time with the new baby - as the firstborn is in preschool a few half days a week. Then in a year you get a good chunk of time alone with the baby when the firstborn goes to kindergarten. I have cherished my one-on-one time with my second and third kids - as I hadn't really expected to ever be able to give them that. You should see my dd2 light up when I am working my volunteer day at her co-op preschool! No big sister, no baby - just me and her. It is quite a special thing to her.

Practical - it is easier to get places when you just have one little one and the other one is a "big kid". I can trust that dd1 will stand right next to me when I get dd2 from the car seat to the grocery cart or stroller.

They still play together! My sister and I did. My kids do. The older one gets to teach the younger one things and that is neat for both of them. Some people think four years is too far - I have loved it.

Our dd2 and dd3 are 2 3/4 years apart - much harder! Harder on mom, harder on dd2 for sure. She is highly frustrated when she has to wait, just doesn't understand why sometimes, needs me much more, wasn't potty trained when baby came (you try to wipe a toddler's bottom and nurse a newborn at the same time!) We had more jealousy issues with the closer age span. I had to juggle baby trading to work at dd2's co-op preschool (when dd1 was three, I didn't have a baby yet so easy to work at preschool). Also, when they are close in age, they both have big car seats and some cars don't fit two or three across - depending on the brand you buy.

Oh, that reminded me - you don't have two who both need a baby item at the same time. One crib, one stroller, one high chair - the older child was done using it by the time the next one came along.

Now some people don't have the luxury of time to be able to space kids four years apart if they want two, three - or if they start having babies in their mid to late thirties. In that case, I would just space closer but know that there will likely be some challenges to that. I always think a sibling is an incredible gift though so the longterm advantages outweigh the short-term difficulties.

There are pros and cons to any spacing. But four years has been good for us!
Kirsten
post #22 of 28
I don't know if my input would do you much good, but I will put it out there for you anyway. My ds is almost 3 years older than my dd. But since ds is autistic I can't give you a description for how that effected my dd. I know that she is 21 months old now and talks an awful lot and she is reaching her milestones when she should if not before. At this point in some areas she is more advanced than my son. BUT, they have a really great relationship with each other. {Even though big brother doesn't always recognize that she isn't a "thing" that is in his way} I would imagine that 2 or 3 developemental years apart would be nice. I am still waiting my ds to get to that point in several areas, but I would love to have more children. Like I said, I don't think it will help, but there are all kinds of families, and I wouldn't trade mine for the world. Best Wishes!
post #23 of 28
Yeah I think alot depends on temperament. I love having two though, it does feel like a "family" in a way that one didn't as much for us at least. I love seeing my older on kiss and hug his baby Matthew. Mine are almost 27 months apart and I have loved it. My oldest was old enough to do some stuff for himself, but still close enough to relate to the baby. I wanted them to be in to the same stuff at the same time. I agree with the other mom that the pregnancy and first 6 weeks were the hardest, but since then it hasn't been that much harder than one. Also how much support you have is crucial too. I have three grandparents local so that is a lifesaver.
post #24 of 28
I think four or five years apart is the best time frame. Our kids are 5 years apart. While there are challenges, the benefits of having two are enormous. The sibling bond is amazing.
post #25 of 28
mine are almost three years apart. My youngest is now 2.5 mos.

Right now my days are a blur. My oldest is pretty high needs. My youngest was a little colicky at first but is now over that. I feel a little like a zombie right now.

I am normally a clean freak, but now, all that has gone out the window. Laundry? Could sit in the dryer for several days before I get to it. Dishes from last thursday still in the sink? Ooops! Oh, did I give either of my children a bath lately? YOu get the idea.

But everything seems to be getting better as we get into a new groove. I don't have any family nearby so that also makes a big difference cuz I don't have any help.

I think the children's temperament is a bigger issue than age difference.
post #26 of 28
In several months, I'll revisit this thread and tell you all how things are going! We're expecting our second in about six weeks. Ds is almost 3. That is the spacing we were hoping for, and I think it will work pretty well.

Ds needs a lot of attention from me. But he does play by himself for 30-40 minute stretches. He tells me Lila will nurse on one side, and he'll nurse on the other.

I am having a hard time imaging leaving the house! Lila and I will have to master nursing in the sling. And ds will have to learn to hold the sling tail and walk with me. He runs away from me often, and it really scares me!

At least dh is used to taking care of most of our errands. For me, shopping with ds is too taxing. A trip to the playground or visiting in the neighborhood is usually the extent of our out-and-about time together.

Wish us luck (and send us sleepy baby vibes!)
post #27 of 28
Thread Starter 
its really great to hear all your different experiences. i agree that it depends a lot on the temperment of the child as well as the personality of the mother. also, the amount of help you have from family, friends, etc. makes a huge difference too.

good luck ebethmom and congratulations on your new little one!
post #28 of 28

I'm going to be really honest here...

My girls are 20 1/2 months apart. I expected things to get a little ugly when dd #2 was born, I expected it to maybe be twice as hard. I did not expect it to be about four times as hard!

I agree that it probably has more to do with personality and temprement of the kids than anything. My first dd is very spirited/intense, and like someone else said, still needed lots of interaction (rocking, laying down with her, etc) in order for her to get to sleep. Dd #2 was very colicky for the first two months, and I was on an elimination diet and everything like that. DH was working the evening shift at work so I was alone until midnight some nights. And then, I was smacked ove rhte head with some pretty severe ppd. It was really, really hard. I felt so desperate sometimes- like I had two girls who needed so much, and I wasn't able to give much to either one of them.

I still remember the first night I was left alone- dh was at work, and my mom had decided that I didn't need her help anymore. The baby had a diaper explosion so I went into the bedroom to change her. My older dd decided that she was done with whatever she was eating, so she threw her bowl on the floor, breaking it and scattering food all over the floor. Of course, the baby started screaming while I was sweeping the floor, and then my older dd walked across the floor and cut her foot open pretty bad. It wasn't bad enough for stitches, but there was blood everywhere, and of course she was freaking out. I had to leave the baby to cry so that I could bandage the injured foot, which of course made Abby scream even more. When my dh got home that night, there was broken glass and food all ove rhte floor, blood everywhere, and me, looking like a zombie in the rocking chair, with two wimpering little girls, one on each leg. (Don't worry, I can laugh about it now! :LOL )

Now for the good parts- the girls truly, truly do enjoy each other, They play together a lot, and whenever one of them wakes up in the morning or from a nap, the first person they look for is the other. Hearing them laugh together brings a lump to my throat, and hearing Abby trying to comfort Ashlynn or taking car of her makes me feel like I must be doing something right. And while it does take extra time or effort for us to get out of the house, we try to do it every day, because both the kids and I go stir crazy if we don't. The sling is a must, and Abby is pretty good most of the time about holding my hand, or hanging out in the shopping carts.

I'm glad of the spacing now, although I don't think I will ever have kids that close again. I told my dh, jokingly, the other day that if we wanted our kids 20 months apart again that we better get busy, and he told me that he was going to go pack his bags.
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