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post #21 of 39

Long post about getting financially fit

Ladymadelon, DON'T give up!! I know things must feel pretty impossible right now, but you really can pull through the difficult financial times.

For a couple of years I have been participating on a forum for simple living (www.simpleliving.net). Through that I have come across the most amazing stories of people who have been able to turn their lives around financially--not through any gimmics or get-rich-quick schemes, but by learning how to live frugally within their means. I highly recommend it--it is an incredibly diverse bunch of people, and they have amazing suggestions, opinions, and stories to share.

Aside from that, there are a couple of books available at most any public library that are great for getting started on making ends meet. The two that I recommend the most are totally non-judgmental. There's no artificial budget to set up, just a (long) process of improving your relationship with money:

Dominguez. Your Money or Your Life (this is the simple living Bible--it's pretty extreme in that it tries to get you to revolutionize your relationship to money, and it demands a lot of self-reflection and self-criticism on the part of the reader. It might be a tough first step for a newbie, but the more you get into frugality the better it gets. The best thing about it is it encourages you to face your fears about money and gives tons of suggestions for educating yourself on how to be financially fit)

Amy D. The Tightwadder Gazette (can never spell that woman's last name--this is a collection of newsletters she put out in the late 80s. It's a PHENOMENAL collections of suggestions for how to pinch pennies while raising a large family, plus it's filled with her sometimes humorous sometimes deeply philosophical reflections on money, family, society as a whole, and consumerism in particular--very inspirational!)

Smart Women Finish Rich (not as profound as the previous two, but an easy introduction about thinking about money in a smart way--whereas the other two are all about living according to your own personal values and following your calling in life with money merely as the tool to make it possible, this one leans a little more toward the idea that being rich is good, period, which I don't like. But it IS a useful little book).

I think the most important (and hardest!) thing of all is to face whatever financial reality you're facing head-on, then educate, educate, educate yourself about how to deal with the problem. Breaking the whole horrible "ack, we're drowning!!!" dilemma into smaller components that you can identify and deal with will help too. Like if you're getting behind in utilities bills, I know it's possible to come up with an agreement with each service provider to keep paying a smaller amount per month. As long as they know you're making a good faith effort, they won't cut you off. If debt is a problem too, there are really practical, basic steps you can start taking to deal with that too. And as for the car problem--maybe your husband would be able to barter his skills during the time he is out of work in exchange for services from someone who knows cars--maybe trading work would help him get through the rough patch of unemployment too--it always helps to be doing SOMETHING!

Sorry to go on at such length -- your post just really called out to me, and I am convinced that you and your family can pull through, since I've heard the stories of so many others who have. Best wishes to you!
post #22 of 39
12 weeks

Still feeling pretty lousy here. Not throwing up but extremely tired and not interested in food, then ravenously hungry for.....what??? I'm sleeping about 10 hours a night and waking up feeling tired.

My job is very demanding and my ds and dd need lots of attention (as they should!!) But it is all too much. Trying to clean the house today, but here I am sitting at the computer!!
post #23 of 39
Thread Starter 

whew, what a couple of days!

monday night i went to pick up dh at the airport and we decided to stop to eat on the way home. when we pulled in to the parking lot, we noticed a horrible smell, like burning rubber, and then smoke from under our hood. the two of us, knowing nothing about cars, kind of stood there staring under the hood hoping an answer would magically come to us :LOL and the whole time i was trying to breathe through my shirt because i was scared of the fumes being dangerous for my baby. we finally tried starting it up again when it had cooled down a bit and it made a horrible noise so we called AAA. and had to get my dad to come with my mom's car (it has the spare carseat) so we could get dd home. by the time the tow truck got there it was 1:30am and by the time we got home it was 2:30. luckily dd slept through the whole thing though. and i got the most delicious cheesy gordita crunch while i was waiting, i'm talking commercial quality here :LOL

so it turns out that the car is still driveable and all (yay!) but the air conditioner is completely shot (hadn't been working lately anyways, but now will have to be completely replaced) and if we want to replace it, it'll cost something like $1600!!! so just in time for a nice, hot, preggo summer, i'll be cruisin' with no a/c and dd hates having windows open. aaaaahhh!!! but there's no way we can afford a repair like that right now. now i'm a little thankful for the cold.....

so then yesterday i was left without a car but my appt to get to. i tried to reschedule, but they didn't have anything until june 14!!! that's practically time for my next appt! i've been really nervous about this pregnancy and really wanted to go make sure everything was ok, so i spent all morning trying to figure out a way to get there. finally i found a car to borrow so i was able to make it. the appt went great. she tried to listen to the heartbeat, but couldn't find it, which normally would have worried me, but knowing it was still early and not uncommon i was surprisingly calm about it. although i did feel tears come to my eyes...so she did a quick u/s and found the heartbeat immediately. it was just absolutely amazing. i can't even describe how miraculous and wonderful it was to see that little flutter. it has put me so much at ease and i feel so much more relaxed now.

when i got back i was playing with dd and noticed she had to use the potty, so we went into the bathroom and then she started resisting. i saw that dh had finished off the tp (and not replaced it it drives me insane how much tp he thinks is necessary, i mean it *seriously* upsets me ) and went to go find another. in the meantime, dd went back into the bedroom and peed all over some of her favorite books i was so upset when i found out. my patience is so much thinner than it used to be and that made me feel even worse. i was trying to get her to understand that the books were now ruined. i guess that's the part that really bothered me. they were her favorites and we used to read them everynight. i suck at letting go of stuff too, so i'm still desperately seeking ways to salvage them since i think i was able to wipe them dry pretty quickly and the ones with paper pages only got hit on the cover. i feel like such a mean mama lately and when you put that together with the no energy factor it just gets worse. please somebody tell me that this will pass soon and i'll be back to my patient happy self soon.....

laura, karen and kristi,
i'm glad you're all starting to feel better!!! that's awesome news and hope to join you all soon!

tara,
congrats to your pregnant family members! it'll be great to have so many babies born at the same time! sorry you're feeling sicker now though, i hope it doesn't last long.

kristi,
i'm glad i'm not the only one with a one outfit wardrobe! misery loves company i guess.....

rebecca,
i will keep your family in my thoughts and prayers.

nannymom,
i've noticed that any quick movements can cause pains. i think it might have something to do with the muscles relaxing. i have to take care to be gentle with my movements so i don't pull something. i wasn't sure i was feeling movement until a little after my 20th week last time.
post #24 of 39

10 weeks today!

Hi everyone, I went to my appt yesterday with my hubbie and it went very well. The US Tech found the heartbeat and measured the baby and its growing at the perfect rate. She even made us a tape and gave us pictures to share. The baby even wiggled alittle for us! I feel so much better about this pregnancy now! Then we spoke to my OB and we'll do another US in a couple of weeks to check for Down Syndrome and do a blood test. We decided to do this after much thought about our family situation and my age (almost 40!). I am a little nervous still.

I told my co-workers and a friend yesterday. It seems to make it more real for me now. I am pretty tired today and just wanted to stay in bed. At least work is not stressful and I sit at a computer most of the time. I can't wait until this trimester is up!

Jessica - what an ordeal! You must be exhausted. I know dealing with a DD can be exasperating! Mine refuses to wear "ugly" clothes right now. Which according to her is most of the clothes she was wearing up to now! Today she went to daycare in her ballerina outfit, At least its not cold here!

Lauren - Hang in there! Hopefully the tiredness will go away soon. That's what I'm hoping at least.

To the rest - We are all getting closer to the easing/ending of the m/s! Something to look forward too.

Robin
post #25 of 39

8th week (EDD Dec. 28)

My nausea seems to be following a weekly schedule. Every morning is touchy--if I don't wake up to eat a few pretzels in the early morning hours, I can expect difficulty keeping my breakfast down, and I often feel yucky until noon--but the really nasty persistent nausea starts Sunday night, peaks Monday morning and is bad all day (this is also when I'm most tired; I slept almost twice as many hours as I was awake the past 2 Mondays), and subsides Tuesday afternoon. Only in the first week of nausea did I throw up anytime between Wed. noon and Sun. noon. : It's not because my schedule is different on the weekends--my bosses are letting me work flexible hours and I've decided church is optional, so I'm not pushing myself to get up early on any day. It's good to have a somewhat predictable pattern, anyway!

We went to yard sales on Sat. and got some baby clothes and toys. Friends gave us their outgrown infant car seat, a model which has NOT been recalled!

Health Valley Lentil Couscous Instant Soup is my new favorite food for the office!! Yummy, all-natural, vegan, and if you eat the whole thing (2 "servings") it has FOURTEEN grams of protein, 40% of your daily fiber, and 20% of the non-pregnant Daily Value of iron and Vitamin A. It was on sale for 85c at my co-op a couple of weeks ago; if only I'd known it was so delicious, I'd have bought a bunch of them! (NOTE: It's moderately spicy. I can eat spicy foods again now, but I bet some of you are having trouble w/them.)

Since my nausea started exactly 4 weeks after conception, I'm hoping it will end at exactly 12 weeks...which means it's halfway over! Thanks and sympathy to those who remind me that it could be a lot worse!
post #26 of 39
Ladymelon - sorry to hear about your stressful work and financial situation. I hope you and your dh find some answers to help ease your load.

Eruditia - thanks for the recommendations on reading about bugeting and simplifying. OUr situation is by choice and not as dire, but we have decided that I will be a SAHM with this second child (I was so fortunate to be able to bring dd to work with me when she was an infant/young toddler, and have been working part-time in a *wonderful* small indepenedent school for a number of years...). Anyway, although dh has negotiated a raise that will ease the loss of my salary, it will be a shift to be a SAHM, we really want/need to simplify a bit. I am going to look for those books!

Jess - I'm glad your car issues began AFTER you picked up your dh. I'm mean, I'm all for us educated, liberated women being able to fix our own cars if we want to...but...!

I really and truly am feeling better - m/s is even less frequent and less intense when it does hit. Hope you all get to enjoy this change soon, too! I am more relaxed, feeling better physically, and mentally knowing that I am on my way out of that 12-week window of uncertainties. I am thinking I will tell everyone at work next week ("everyone at work" is basically an entire school community - it will really be letting the cat out of the bag. I think I'm ready!)
post #27 of 39

13 weeks!

I have felt really guilty to post before now because everyone is so miserable. I'm really sorry! I haven't even had the slightest bit of m/s since 8 weeks. And now the fatigue is going away and my hunger is calming down. That's good because I got a weight gain lecture at my visit with the mw last week! I have, however, had the most annoying sore throat for the last week. I think it's just allergies (grass is a big one for me), but it won't go away and it's driving me nuts. I also keep having this tingly feeling in my back around my left shoulder blade. Does anyone know what that could be? My sciatica is pretty much gone since my dr. showed me a great stretch to help it. Maybe my baby just like to sit on my nerves!!

I am so jealous of those of you who can be SAHMs and WAHMs! Dh and I keep talking about it because they don't treat me very well at my job, I have lots of experience and took a step back in my career (and a HUGE pay cut) to move and support DH through grad school, but they act as though I'm inexperienced or something. I would love nothing more than to not return after the baby comes, but then we wouldn't have health insurance (or an income of any kind) and I don't think we'd qualify for medicaid because 1) I could COBRA (though that alone would be insanely expensive) and 2) we own our house and I think it's probably worth too much. So I think I'll be stuck working for another year and a half or so after the baby comes. I keep trying to come up with other options, but the health insurance is the big stumbling block. Dh is sweet, and he's working on ideas too but I just don't see it happening. I wouldn't care so much if they weren't so icky at work.

I am looking forward to a 3-day weekend though !
post #28 of 39

birth center

Hi Ladies. I hope everyone is feeling good.

DH and I are going for our birth center consultation this afternoon. I am trying not to get my hopes up but I am excited. I am hoping to hear the heart beat, but I'm not sure if they'll do it at a first meeting. I am dying to hear it. I have heard great things about it. It is essentially just like a homebirth you even get to leave 4 hours after the baby is born! I am hoping it will be an insuarnce covered alternative, but we aren't ruling out home birth yet.

Last night my mom and I met at the mall and she bought me tons of maternity clothes. It was so nice of her and now I won't have to feel frumpy and like i look like crap.

well, nothing else here except that I am living for the three day weekend even though my MIL is coming to town....
post #29 of 39
Hilary -hang in there! When my dd was born, me leaving work was not at all an option. I was SO lucky to be able to actually bring dd to work with me - but then worked during the day at work (with baby, so I was mama too), did most of the housework and cooking, etc at home and did the bulk of the parenting (my dh is a wonerful dad and hubby, don't get me wrong - but his job is CONSUMING, time and energy-wise). It was exhausting - but I wouldn't trade it for the world! Now, three years later come fall, things have changed with dh's job and I have the option to leave work. I don't think we imagined that that at the time of dd's birth. Maybe with time your time will come!
post #30 of 39

9 weeks today

Hello ladies. What will we all talk about when we actually feel good?

In fact, yesterday I felt really good. I managed to thoroughly clean the toilet, pick up and vacuum the living room, pick up the kitchen a little bit, and actually bathe my son and myself. It's sad that that's a really good day for me now! I used to be able to do so much more. But I keep reminding myself that this will pass soon and all be worth it. Today I am back to not feeling so great.

I have definitely noticed a connection between eating more protein and feeling good. I was having a hard time getting enough protein because for a long time I had cut out dairy for bowel reasons. Well, I cannot tell you how much better I felt when I finally gave in and just had a big old glass of (organic) chocolate milk! Now when I start to get that "nasty feeling" - you all know what I'm talking about! - I go have a glass of milk and it goes away. I had been taking a calcium supplement, but it's just not the same. I feel like right now I just NEED the dairy. Weird.

One week from today I get to have my first ultrasound. Can't wait to hear the heartbeat and see that all is well.
post #31 of 39
Eruditia - even though we are doing pretty good at the moment i plan on checking out those books.

Jess - just reading about your day is making me tired ;-p i don't know how you were able to stay awake that late (so what time did dd wake up the next morning?)
hope you figure out the car thing soon.
i know what you mean about no patience, i feel bad about that as well and was talking to another very mainstream pregnant person who was saying whats the big deal, then i realized if you normally ignore your child, keep them in front of the tv ect then of course there is no difference. it is those of us who really are trying to do the best for our children that are noticing the inability to keep up at the same level as before.

robin - yeah on finding the heartbeat

nannymom - how did your consult go?

tara
post #32 of 39
Hey mamas,

Sorry to hear most of you are still feeling icky. I haven't puked in about a week, but I still don't want to eat anything normal. I had my favorite cook book mailed to me, and I had to force myself to choose a recipe for dinner. I am getting better about cooking, but nothing really appeals to me. I eat because i have to or I'll puke. I just thank god I am not craving sweets all the time. this is usually a problem for me.
I am sooooo exhausted though. Once I get up to pee at night, I lay awake for hours (like 3!) I've watched it become light out almost every night this week. And its been so stinkin hot here I cannot get cmfortable. Too hot for a comforter or even a knit blanket, but too cold for a sheet. It drives me nuts. And then my legs start cramping up... on on on until DD wakes me up at 9. I was putting movie in for her and going back to sleep for an hour ( this makes me feel like a big slacker... I mean I can't even drag my a$$ out of bed at 9 am!?!), but she broke the vcr/tv (2 in 1) the other day, so now I can't do that. She has been really cooperative about playing by herself with her toys for a while in the morning, but she comes in my room every 20 minutes, sooooo annoying! I hate to buy a tv/vcr (I just feel quilty spending money on something I don't really like to support anyway), but I can't deal. She never naps, so now I get no break all day long at all. I have been teaching her to pick up after herself though, and she almost LIKES it. COOL!
I finally cleaned my kitchen after over a week the other day, and my room (after a heck of a lot longer than that!), and the living room is half way there, but I just get mad whenever I go in DDs room. I haven't even pulled up her blinds in weeks. At least she doesn't hang out in there a lot. My toilet has some kind of mold growing in it, even though I cleaned it last week. I 'm not touching it yet out of principal, maybe I'll turn it into a science experiment (or maye I'll just go buy a bleach drop in for it).
I have my first prenatal with Midwife on Tuesday. I am so excited. She's coming to my house even. I am so glad b/c she live an hour away and my van gets 8 miles to the gallon! I hope she doesnt want me to come to her house anytime soon.
I started feeling baby #1 moving around sometime in the 3rd month. Around 4 months I had a really cool experience with her. I was laying on my friends couch about to go to sleep, and I put my hands on my belly. She moved up to the "surface" just then and I could feel her knees and back and butt and head. I started crying it was so beautiful! I felt so extra bonded to her after that. I was super skinny though, so don't expect that.
Oh boy I hear you all about little kiddy's driving you crazy. DD refuses to ride it the cart at the store, it drives me crazy!!!! I don't even want to bring her with me, but its the only time we get out of the house (our yard has NO shade and I can't take it). I am trying to be calm with her, and embrace the "children as spiritual leaders" artical in the new issue of Mothering. I like the mantra that goes something like "Ignore the negative, reward the positive" I at least don't feel so bad for just ignoring her behavior sometimes.
Oh and to the mama who had the 2 kid potty incident, you handled that well. I would have totally gone balisitc!!! It would have pushed me right over the edge, like had to leave the room style. You are a strong mama!

OK off to eat some Raisin Bran Crunch ( I can't believe I'm eating such crap!) before I pass out.

Hugs to you all!
post #33 of 39
Jenelle I'm with you on the dairy thing--for some reason it calms by stomach right down when it is feeling icky. Last night right before bed I had a big old bowl of ice cream and glass of milk. Ahhhhh. Perfect. I'm not usually a big dairy person at all, but it is hitting the spot!
post #34 of 39

12 weeks tomorrow

Hi everyone,

I logged on here and said hello on the "list of dates" but have been hanging out mainly on the la mama's list for lack of time and energy to write on two! so I'll say hi and introduce myself -- i'm renee, 31, 12 weeks pregnant tomorrow, first baby, live in so. california but miss the country, am a south dakota girl and my dh is from w. virginia.

The first 9 weeks i was sea sick constantly, CONSTANTLY and had to nibble on crackers and ginger snaps all the time, but no puking. For the last 3 weeks I dry heave all the time and puke violently at the oddest things. i'd love to go into detail about the rat exterminator at our house last weekend ... but i know most of you are sick, too! wouldn't want to start a chain reaction.

whats really frustrating me, though is that once i find a food that works, and i eat it for a few days, i am suddenly violently averse to it. It was scrambled eggs last week -- 3 days in a row. Yogurt the week before. Now even typing those words makes me sick. I'm fast running out of food options. AND I love to cook but have been absolutely unable to.

Do you also notice that the dirtier the kitchen gets, the better it is just to avoid it??? The thought of doing dishes makes me want to cry. Also, the thought of any dairy or pasta at all makes me cry -- and to think that in Week 7 I lived on scalloped potatoes and macaroni/cheese.

on a happier note -- heard the heartbeat two days ago -- i taped it for dh who just got a new job and can't be taking time off. to me, the baby sounds like a little yellow stallion pony galloping on the beach. i love it so much!!! we have played the tape for all of our parents, who are so excited. we told everyone REALLY early because neither of us can keep a secret, and i knew within 13 days of concepption -- so everyone knew by 6 weeks.

I just want to say, before I go, to Rebecka -- you're in my prayers. my brother had a head injury and I watched the struggle that he went through -- so i really relate to your husband's need for a calm and repetitive job -- i hope that you are both able to find the financial support you need and deserve. and I myself am going to go to the library and get Your Money or Your Life - so many people have recommended it, its about time I read it!

peace, renee
post #35 of 39

13 weeks

My week has been o.k. I have been out of my office traveling around visiting offices we fund through work (I work for a large non-profit funder) with a woman from our home office. She doesn't drive very smoothly, so I did have one bout of "car sickness" and she had to pull off the freeway for me to puke...really classy :LOL Today was my first day back to the office this week, and we closed up early for the holiday week-end...sometimes I my boss. So, I have a 3.5 day week end ahead of me Going to plant stuff and clean my house...really exciting I know.

I am still trying to track down my previous midwife, but haven't been able to get a hold of her. Considering my options...
post #36 of 39

13 weeks

Was that me who was assuring you all that I was feeling better, more energized, etc, etc???? :ignore The past few days I have been exhausted again - and short on patience. No fun. Getting outside, getting some exercise and trying to be productive seem to help, but...

Hope to bounce back again soon. I had a taste of what the second trimester is supposed to bring - I want some more!!
post #37 of 39
Hi everyone!

Sorry to hear everyone else is sick, too. I totally know what you all mean about the kids - before I started getting sick, in a typical day we would drop of DH at work, go to the park, go to the zoo, go to the store, go home to nap, play at home for a bit, and then go pick up DH and either go out or spend the evening quietly at home. But now, we wake up, eat cereal, and I sit in the chair and watch the kids try to occupy themselves or watch TV :-(. I feel so bad for them. But I know that this would be normal for some families :-(.

I'm having a major beef aversion. Anything beef-related is just disgusting. And DH had to have BIL over for teri steaks (bbq) last night - I didn't know how mad to get about that so I just sat and felt sick but luckily he was considerate enough to try to prevent any smoke from getting back into the house.

I hear you about the dairy, too - problem is, I'm lactose intolerant. I can handle some amount of cheese but a glass of milk would be unpleasant afterwards. I can't stay away from it, though, since it is a big help in settling my stomach, so I eat/drink anyway, but I've had gas and diarrhea on and off for weeks now, which sucks.
post #38 of 39
Alrighty, sorry I haven't checked in this thread yet. I'm still getting over the MS. No more puking but everything makes me queezy and nothing I love sounds good anymore. Something is wrong and gross about everything I try to eat. Iced tea and salad are keeping me alive and awake. Salad has almost no odor so it isn't bothering me yet... I need alot of sleep nowdays, weird cause I'm a big night owl normally. I am so ready for this to get moving! It feels like nothing is happening. I look obviously pregnant but that's it! I have all my maternity clothes so that's over with and I'm comfy but I'm woried about everything. Except m/c, isn;t that weird. I have a child with a genetic disorder but I'm worried about things like getting a double stroller and where i'll find a LLL meeting when this baby comes. WHat the hell is wrong with me? My mother has taken my 4 y/o this weekend which sounds nice in theory but makes me nuts because I just know she's allowing things I wouldln't and I miss her so much I just can't enjoy the break. Oh( btw, we had all the genetic testing done before we got pg again and all clear. It was just a fluke thing so we are at no greater risk than normal. Normal is 1/500 risk of any type of chromosomal defect.) That's alot less stress but we are still going to have some genetic testing done just in case. I'm having my tripple screen early at 14 weeks and a level 2 U/S at 16-18 weeks. If all is good on those I'm not having another amnio. It hurt so dang bad the first time and knowing wouldn't change anything for me anyway. I just know from last time that it's a HUGE help to be prepared.


Just want to throw it out there just in case, if anyone is having problems (worried of problems with the baby) or does down the road that are similar please feel free to pm me. I've done this all and know how hard it is to go through alone with so many questions. BUT I hope we all have healthy happy babies!!

Anyway, I hope everyone gets to feeling better soon.

Question for everyone: I keep having this weird feeling and i'm almost sure it's the baby moving. Is this even possible so early? I'd think i'd know gas by now kwim?
post #39 of 39
9 weeks

It's funny. All this time I thought I'm having a brilliant pregnancy. No m/s, appetite normal, just a bit more sleepy than normal. Then about a week ago everything changed.

My sense of smell being so strong, everything makes me nauseous. I'm ravenous ALL the time, I eat constantly. My temporary roommates even have remarked on how when we first moved in with them I ate like a normal person and now they only ever see me in the kitchen anymore. It drives me crazy - I eat so much I want to vomit and I'm STILL hungry. I just have tostop myself at some point.

I cannot get enough sleep, either - I want to sleep all the time, I am constantly tired. So my day is all sleeping, eating and eating, really.
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