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post #41 of 81
I want to thank the ones that stood up and said that it's not right to judge others based on their diapering methods. I've used both. There was no difference in rashes with either method. My kids were not happier in either method. I was not a better mother when I used cloth.

The attitude on this board really disappoints me. I'm glad you all love your cloth so much, but you really should be careful about what you say. Putting down other parents is not a good way to promote cloth. And yes, I do think cloth is a *better* option, but I think there needs to be a little perspective here. Promote cloth, but don't degrade those that choose disposables.

Edited to add: I also resent the implication (oh wait, it wasn't an implication, it was said as a downright generalized fact) that since I use disposables, I don't change my child enough. Not everyone waits until the diaper is full. I change the moment I think they have wet, even if it's just a little bit. My kids have NEVER sat in a wet diaper, cloth or disposable, longer than necessary.
post #42 of 81
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2much2luv
There has been so much poor bashing on this board lately, it is really starting to tick me off. You know, those *icky* generic diapers are all some people can afford for their babies. I'm sure they are as loving as you all are. Seriously, some people need to get their heads out of their arses. Cloth diapering doesn't make you a better parent. Buying pampers as opposed to white cloud doesn't make you a better parent.
Thank you! I was beginning to not feel welcome here
post #43 of 81
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilyka
People just assume they are changed as often as cloth. I have never met anyone who changes more than 5 or 6 diapers a day
Me ME!! I'm almost more of a fanatic about changing a DD than a cloth. I just can't stand the idea of all those wet expanding nasty chemicals against my DD for a long time. With cloth I go through 6-10 a day dpending on how often she wets, with DD I easily go through 12 a day on average.

DK
post #44 of 81
When we used sposies the cheap WM ones were 48 a pack in the small sizes and were $19.99. So that's 36 for $15. I can't see how they do that. And they obviously aren't adding in wipes or extra trash.
post #45 of 81
The last dipes I bought were White Cloud (size 3's) in the big box for $15.97. There were 112 dipes in the box, and we still would've needed 3 boxes for the month AT LEAST. Aidan wants changed as soon as he wets no matter if it's cloth or disposable, and I counted TWELVE changes in one day! That was part of why I switched to cloth. We'd have needed MORE than the 3 boxes a month, so more around $50-$60 a month...and that's not for the "brand" names.

As for being "cheap"...Aidan never leaked out of the White Clouds, but he did Huggies. Go figure!
post #46 of 81
: Disposable or not, you're ok in my book.

And we were massive disposable changers here too even with my light wetter.
post #47 of 81
Thread Starter 
I will have to say when I do use DD and I do on ocassion use them, I buy Dribottoms, Its not because of cost honestly I could buy thee top brand but these fit my DD the best and don't leak have nasty perfume smells (like whitecloud/pampers) or leave gel brand all over my DD. SO here is another vote for the cheepies!
As for cloth I choose to CD for more than finincial reasons but yes I have saved (especially considering how much I change a DD) but I also use inexpensive flannel fitted and cheep covers, I'm sorry but I still question moms who but 30+ $15 diapers and $30 covers in various sizes that still claim they are "saving" even if there selling a bunch. Though I see nothing wrong with doing so.
I also hope I didn't offend anyone with this thread. I posted the question because I saw several post from moms on this board who In my opnion wouldn't be here is they were the type to "neglect" their child. I wanted to know there seceret.

DK
post #48 of 81
I think I actually posted here about a year ago saying how inexpensive I found disposables when we used them on DD for a few months during our remodel when she used to crawl herself through the sawdust and adobe dust in her brand new wool diapers and trashed them. We used dry bottoms from walmart which were about 10.74 for 80 diapers. They were by far the cheapest and they didn't have any perfumy smell to them like pampers. Now she was about 10 months old and not a heavy wetter at all. We must have made it by with 15 a month.
My post was about cloth being cheaper or not because I was able to use bumkins and prefold and get by with only three of them washed immediately after use and that cost 30$ every time we upgraded sizes, every three months. This was cheap. But when I bought Bummis once and they didn't work well, I only got about 8$ back on all three of them on ebay.
Ater checking out all the current popular diapers here, I thought there was no way some methods of cloth could be cheaper even i they did last through multiple kids and had a resale value.
I think we have to admit that cloth can be equally expensive. Now, this is not in any way saying what is better or a better choice. This was strictly a money issue that I brought up.
Another thing I'd like to add that has struck me at times is this: All the attachment parrenting stuff is great and I strive for it hard. I realized one day that I was stressing myself out so much with all the washing diapers, slinging, breastfeeding, etc. that I was probably not being a very pleasant parent because I was getting little time for myself. I came to the conclusion that if I need to use some sposies every now and then for the sake of my own sanity, then that is what I need to do.
post #49 of 81
Hmmm...I think it's probably a good thing I didn't stumble across this board until AFTER I had already decided to switch to cloth -- and I'm starting out on my third child, a 21-month old, not a newborn, so I've been using sposies quite successfully now for well over five years. The stereotypes and judgements are flying around furiously and they don't reflect well on some of you, I'm sorry to say.

If you need to feel superior by bashing moms who DD, then go right ahead, but don't think you're impressing anyone or encouraging anyone on the fence with it -- I'm sure you do realize that bad parenting can be found among ALL types of parents, cding parents, too! My years as a mother have made me far more tolerant of different parenting styles, even though I myself am very AP-oriented. I know, for example, as a bfing advocate and educator, that I am far more likely to encourage a mom to bf through solid medical advice, enthusiasm, and NON-judgemental support, not by telling her she was an irresponsible, neglectful idiot to formula feed her first baby. Catch more flies with honey, you know?

I used only disposables with my first two and into toddlerhood with number three, the cheap Walmart or Kmart brands, yes. They never had rashes, they were changed more often than 4 times a day, for pete's sake, but granted not as frequently as I change now that I'm cding b/c they DD are more absorbent, to be sure, and it wasn't as easy to tell immediately when they had peed. I didn't manage to DD for $15 a month, but, after crunching the numbers, I've discovered that I DID do it more cheaply than it's costing me now to do cloth. Maybe if I had started cloth with my first two, it would have been cheaper after four kids, but the dipes I'm using now will only be reused on one last little bottom. Cloth is NOT always cheaper, and that is a misconception often put forth here. Good thing that's not the main reason I switched, huh?

I just love cloth, I'm committed to cloth and now that I've switched I do think it's the better choice, FOR ME. But I would never presume to think that I'm a better mom b/c I'm now cding, and that I sucked at it before, LOL! Nor was I less of a mom for not putting Pampers Premiums on my kids instead of DriBottoms -- now, a thriftier one, quite possibly.

Please try and see that slinging sterotypes around is NOT helpful nor conducive to making others feel welcome here.

Guin
post #50 of 81
Quote:
Originally Posted by soccerchic21
There are some really nasty really really cheap spoises at Wal-Mart. Maybe they use those.
I felt that they were nasty and cheap sorry I don't see how that is offensive. MIL bought them for us when I was doing DD with DD while I took her to work with me. Not only did she get a rash right away because I am assuming that they didn't pull the moisture from her bum but the tape on them was like packing tape and it accidently got stuck to her leg and that was not pretty. Also when I went to close it and then I opened the tape back up to adjust the fit it just stayed taped to the dipe and the dipe just ripped open.

hey if it works for some people great but for me I stick by my experience that they are nasty. and they are really really cheap in price.
post #51 of 81
i dont think 'bad parent' 'good parent ' are lables that have a place in the diapering forum... or anywhere online really where people are so often misread.

but i also dont think it should surprise anyone that someone who has made a choice to use cloth diapers would have a strong opinion about the choice.

this forum is without question a cloth diapering forum, and while anyone may post, i dont think its shocking that the majority of people involved here are cloth devotees.

of course i have a strong opinion about throw away diapers and the choice to use them- they are destroying my world and my son's world. it matters to me.

but i have no opinion on whether someone buys this or that brand- they are all trash to me. trash that ends up polluting my world. a choice that directly effects me.

it is not my role to actively convert people to cloth. people have to come to that on their own. it requires a huge shift in how one sees the world and their children's future. i dont think it is kind to make class judgements on people or the sort, but i also dont pretend to be someone else just incase i might offend another with the truth. this should be a place where we can discuss these things. you cant PC every hot topic into the ground.

tabitha
post #52 of 81
personally I prefer the the dri-bottoms at wal-mart to almost any other brand. they don't have any dyes or perfumes and have less gel than others. Don't people pay a lot of extra money for those features in a disposable diaper?

anyway, I didn't mean to imply that everyone who uses disposable diapers only changes a few times a day. sorry if I offended . heck we use cloth and still only change about 5 or 6 times a day. she isn't a heavy pee-er. she goes all at once. no big. I was just pointing out, that most people I know IRL only change 3 or 4 times a day and are proud that they are being thrifty/environmentally conscience/ etc. . . and when i do use disposables on vacation or whatever I don't change as often as I should. I forget. she is happy, hates changes, the diapers isn't hanging between her knees, nothing is stinking or leaking out, we are busy, I forget. : it happens. I wasn't judging anyone. I just really hate it when people start counting pennies trying to prove that cloth is cheaper/better even with super expensive diapers and say "OK you will go through 12-15 dd a day for 3 years . . . " whatever, maybe with a brand new baby but that certainly won't last until they are much older. Cloth isn't always cheaper, but there are so many other good reasons to CD that it is OK. And it certainly can be much cheaper. When I compare cost I always go with prefolds and vinyl pull ons or 2nd prowraps. the cheapest system in the world vs generic sposies changed 5 times a day.
post #53 of 81
I said we 'sposied for $15 a month or so per kid but I was not trying to say I would rather 'sposie or that I even care if they were cheaper and I don't think they are. Now that we are in cloth we love it. Sure I change TONS more dipes a day with two kids in cloth but I like the cute soft prints. Someone said was it reasonable to spend $40 a month on cloth since they would spend at least that on 'sposies. I just pointed out that I NEVER spent that much on 'sposies, even with two in them and I am not a neglectful mama.
post #54 of 81
We made the switch to cloth at 11 months. I go through the same amount of diapers in cloth as I did in disposables. 7-8 day She sleeps 12 hours at night and gets changed every 2 hours plus a poopy dipe. Occasionally she needs a change more often than 2 hours but usually it's every 2 hours.

That's over 200 diaper changes for the month; unless the diapers are going for less than .08 / each I don't know how it can be done for $15 month either.

BTW, I care for two other children in my home childcare both in diapers. I also change their sposies every 2 hours at the minimum.

For the record I used the white cloud for day use and the pampers premium brand for night time. Abbey has only had 2 rashes her entire 20 month old life so far. One was in sposies and the other just recently in cloth.

I'm not a better mother for switching to cloth but I feel that I made a better choice. I feel better for using cloth on my babies and that's what matters.

Kris
post #55 of 81
I am poor (as defined by our income guidelines/tax filings each year being well under poverty level for not only a family, but perhaps even for a single person ) and dont take offense to this thread....but then again, I dont have any personal issues to be made to feel guilty about. I am comfortable with myself and my choices enough that I dont care what others do when it comes to their choices that dont directly or even indirectly effect my quality of life...and the future of humanity..that type of thing. . I also understand that others make their choices and tend to feel defensive of them, or want to stick up for them. disposible diaper using has nothing to do with the quality of your parenting or the happiness of your child. I would never think it was okay to say someone is a neglectful mom for using them. thats a little loopy.

but, since its brought up as more than a price thing (and I can tell you, if we didnt cloth diaper, we wouldnt be eating, because disposable diapers would cost more for us, plain and simple...its not even close) anyway...I do take offense to this thread in the very small way that everyone wants to be given their props for trashing my planet. here I am, working my a$$ off so our kids maybe got a shot....I know diapers arent the greatest problem, but they contribute in a large way....and anything I can do to help I am happy to do it. even if that means I have to bucket used water from the bathtub to the basement for laundry so the water/sewer bill isnt too high.

not all cloth diapering moms are rich snobs , and even if they are, at least they are all helping our planet, no matter what their reasons actually are for doing it. who cares if its to dress their kids up cute in matching AIO's and rompers? I went through a period where I tried some fancy dipes, they didnt work any better than prefolds and wool wraps (wool was the best investment for us, its natural fibers and will last forever, through many many children) and we have a few AIO's....big deal.

so, while privaleged holier than thou attitudes do suck, I certainly dont feel the need to 'validate' anyone's right to use sposies.

come on.....I thought it was all about natural family living. why are we righteous snobs because we care about the ol' planet earth? doesnt everyone have the same goal here? we all do what we can to achieve that. if you cant cloth diaper right now, fine...whatever, why do you have to slam those that do for making you feel guilty?

I am not putting on flame retardant anything, I am gunna stand and defend the right that cloth diapering, resource conserving, earth supporting moms have to be proud of their healthy choice, and will let the flames consume me before I back down!

(okay, maybe I saw Norma Rae a few too many times, but this thread is getting wacky as most have lately and COME ON!!!!) :LOL
post #56 of 81
in the 20 minutes it too kme to write the above post, tabitha and maybe a few others said the exact same thing thats what I get for trying to nurse and type a LONG post with one finger.......UGH!

:LOL


but Thanks tabitha, great post!!!
post #57 of 81
It seems to me that if you care so much about the environment that perhaps your attitude towards others shouldn't be, "I don't need to be PC about this topic and I don't want to validate others choices to use disposables and pollute everything, so I'll be insulting and sterotypical if I choose, thank you very much."

I feel you SHOULD care what and how this is said, even if it is a cding board, b/c I guarantee you that you're not encouraging a single mom NOT to trash the planet through belittling her for DDing. Shouldn't you care about converting some of these moms if you want to improve the planet? As I've said before, I'm glad I didn't read this when I was still on the fence about whether or not to switch, b/c it would have turned me WAY off!

Moreover, it's pretty obvious that although this is a cding forum, many of us have used or still use disposables from time to time, so you are in "mixed" company whether you fully realize it or not. Again, I don't see how choosing to be encouraging and providing good information about cding RATHER than acting superior and self-righteous about your own choice is somehow not being yourself or is a validation of disposables or pollution. I don't see this as needing to be PC, but rather being respectful to all mothers.

Guin
post #58 of 81
Oh never freakin' mind...
post #59 of 81
Well...lessee...I dd'd my son for 6 months for free....I guess for the third child they felt I had everything else and threw me a diaper shower. I had looked into cloth earlier but everyone said how difficult it was so I dropped it. Then my son was allergic to sposies...my SOLE reason for switching to cloth. I am a terrible mother, I didn't change often and let all my kids stay in the sposie till I could see it was wet, nobody told me it wasn't wrong. I change much more often now only because of sensitive skin issues, he goes coverless at home. Had I come here when I made my decision to 'try' cloth and read this and other threads about sposies with the same messages, I probably would have been ashamed, left and not ever have tried or learned as much as I have from this board. I found a different board first and learned a lot there before even venturing here so thankfully I was already converted.

edited to add....I change more now regardless of sensitive skin, but change even more often because of it.
post #60 of 81
Thanks Guin. You said it much better than I could...
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