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post #21 of 60
Also don't leave any amount of water in buckets (turn them over so they don't get rainwater in them, too.)

And get a toilet lock to keep out curious toddlers. They are top-heavy, which means they can easily fall in but can't get back out.
post #22 of 60
Thank you Jackie.

I lived in South Florida for 23 years, and it just amazes me still, how many kids drowned while there moms and dads were home.

It only takes a mouthful.

And i agree with you, i wouldnt let me kids in the pool alone either, even for a second.
post #23 of 60
Thank you all for this discussion!!!!! My mother has a pool and she will not fence it or cover it because "it looks bad." She also has a tendency to leave doors open or unlocked. I'm sorry that she bought the house. I'm always the only one watching my 3 y.o. daughter anywhere in or out of the house, and I have the baby on my hip, too. I can never enjoy my visit. If it's not the pool, it's the toilets or my mom's insulin needles or knives left at the edge of the kitchen counter or pot handles turned out on the stove. Anyway, I emailed my mother the link to this discussion. I hope that she will take it seriously.
post #24 of 60
I just wanted to add what you probably all know already but it hasn't been stated...never just tell a group of adults to watch your little one for you for a sec, they will all say sure and assume that the others are watching (by that I mean say 5 people all sitting around the pool)...I have heard of many drownings happening that way. It's much better to specifically ask one person to watch your little one...and after reading this thread I don't even think I'd be comfortable doing that, unless maybe it was a family member and I physically placed DD on their hip!

We have always spent lots of time around water, my grandparents have always lived on it and we spend lots of time at beaches and pools too. One thing that I personally don't feel comfortable with is using swim devices (except of course wearing a life jacket in a boat)...I think that many people slack off thinking that the water wings or whatever it might be will protect their child. I find that putting a lifejacket on at the beach just makes my DD more likely to go out too far, makes her braver than she ought to be and gives a false sense of security, both to the kid and parent as well. JMHO.
post #25 of 60
Someone that works with dh just lost their 3 year old to drowning. I'm not sure of the details, but I think the parents were both there. Scary stuff.
post #26 of 60
1 tablespoon of water...That's all it takes to drown. Scary HUH!
post #27 of 60
My 2 yr old DD nearly drowned last week. We were in the deeper part of the wading pool and she was walking around up to her neck, I was hunkered down in a squat with my feet on the ground but my shoulders under the water so I was the same height as her, walking around behind her, with her body fully within the circle of my arms but I wasn't touching her because she wanted to "do it herself". As we approached the edge I looked up at some old guy's APPALLING choice in swimwear (shallow I know) and looked back at DD and the water was up over her nose. I have no idea why the pool was deeper a foot from the edge than further in, but it was - so as she approached the edge she went out of her depth. I didn't have to do anything but move my hands inches inwards to grab her and put her out of the water. I was RIGHT there, but what if I had been really distraced, maybe seen someone I knew, or talking to someone not just looking at something for a moment? Scary scary experience.
post #28 of 60
Two days ago I went to the pool in my apartment complex around noon. There were 3 families there (other than mine) with kids in the 6-10 age range. None of the parents were even FACING the pool - they were sunbathing, eyes closed, facing the fence (where the sun was) and not looking a their kids AT ALL. One of the kids asked his mom to pass him a beach ball that was next to her, she says "I'm not here to pass you your damn stuff, get it yourself". ARGH!!! Talk about asking for trouble!! Sure the kids could all swim - but they weren't even keeping an eye on them AT ALL.

On another vein, a much more attentive mom showed up with her little girl later, and watched my daughter like a hawk while I took DS to the restroom (you can see the pool for the walk to and from the restroom, so I could see what was going on). So I suppose some people have a little sense. But before I and this other mom showed up, nobody was watching these kids, something awful could have happened and I could easily see the parents sitting there for half an hour before noticing :-(.
post #29 of 60
What an odd definition of supervision.

I do not consider a child to be being supervised if the caregiver is not actually paying attention to the child. Partially supervised maybe, as mine often are when I'm in one room and their in another and my ears are telling me what's going on.

If they're outside in the backyard and I'm not right there or at least in the same room as the door (paying attention) I don't consider them to be supervised at that time.
post #30 of 60
My mother has a pool and she will not fence it or cover it because "it looks bad."
That is most likely a violation of a few laws: municipal and state.
post #31 of 60

Embers Mom great point about the floating devices

I am totally in agreement with Embersmom about the overuse of floating devices, which hasn't come up much in the discussions. I think those devices (which sure weren't around when I was a kid) just by their existence, encourage parents to put small children in water deeper than they should be in. When my dd started swim lessons this year the teacher commented that she had no fear of the water and that made teaching her easier. I know it was meant as a compliment but I told her I thought fear of the water is a healthy thing for a child who doesn't know how to swim! Once she told me that, and after reading this discussion, I've been watching every lesson from the balcony like a hawk!

This is such a valuable discussion.
post #32 of 60
Farnd, you made a good point. At the pool i mentioned, where we are members, kids are not allowed to wear those inflated things on the arms....i cant remember what they are called. I agree, those things, and tubes as well, give parents a false sense of security. How many times have i been at other pools, the parents put those things on, plop the kids in too deep water, and proceed to sleep and sunbathe?

wrong, wrong wrong.
post #33 of 60
I heard something staggering the other day.

More children die every year because there is a pool in their home than because there is a gun in their home.
post #34 of 60
great thread!! bumping for the weekend.
post #35 of 60
Thank you - this is such an important thread.

We don't have a pool, but we go to the town pool often and visit friends with pools. I am hyper-vigilant about pool safety. I'm amazed at how many people think they are supervising their kids adequately when they are really just somewhere near the pool but not actually watching. Drowning is fast and silent.
post #36 of 60
Why is it that it is all over the media to not co-sleep with your kids, but no one says don't let your kids play in water - just safe ways to do it? Okay, maybe that is a conversation for a different thread.

Anyway, this is one of my biggest fears. We were at a community pool a few weeks ago and saw first hand how quick something terrible could happen. I was following dd#2 around the wading pool in about 18" of water. Like a pp, she didn't want me to hold her. I turned my head to talk to my sister and my sister said, "Oh no!" and pointed at Hannah. I turned and she was still standing but had bent over to stick her head in the water and couldn't seem to pull herself back up. If I hadn't been standing right next to her, who knows . . .

Another story, my BIL and SIL just bought a house with a pool and hot tub. We were there recently when it was still too cold to swim. The pool has a gate with a "childproof" latch. I was thinking how I wasn't worried about my 4yo because she would never WANT to go swimming on a cold day. A few minutes later, she and her cousin were trying to open the gate because their ball fell in the pool and they were going to try getting it out!!!
post #37 of 60
I had a horrifying incident last summer....

This just shows you how even when you're being careful....

DD was about 7 months old, and we were in my dh's uncle's pool.

I didn't realize that the pool sloped VERY dramatically from 3 feet to 8 feet deep (it slopes over a 2 foot space, like a cliff drop off). I'd never swam in their pool and had no clue.

so I was walking with dd in the shallow end and suddenly tripped off that "cliff".

In the process of getting myself "up" I ended up totally dunking dd and holding her under. It was the scariest thing ever, because I just PANICKED... I kept dunking her and pushing for the shallow end... it was maybe a total of 15 seconds... but it FREAKED me out. What was even worse was my dh's eyes. He was outside the pool looking right at me and his look of horror was just so scary.

Needless to say, I don't leave the EDGE of that pool with dd anymore.

And I'm a good swimmer! A VERY good swimmer.... I even took lifeguarding classes!!! And yet, in a moment of panic I almost drowned my own daughter!!

My daughter, by the way, was totally calm and didn't cough or sputter or anything.... just unaffected, thank GOD. All of us adults were freaking though!

Now, Libby has an obsession with "dunking" herself in the bathtub.... so I don't let her take a bath without ME in the tub with her... she thinks it is hilarious to fall back (or forward) and stick her head underwater.

post #38 of 60
Just another "it happens so FAST" story.......... Dh's parents have an above ground pool, I guess it's about 4 ft deep. Aidan just has a total facination with water, so after we all got out, he was still kneeling on the edge of the deck, splashing and playing. Being the paranoid parents we are (according to MIL at least), dh was standing just inches behind him, keeping an eye on him. Sure enough, after a few minutes, he leaned too far, and splash........in he went, headfirst. Dh has really fast reflexes and caught him by the ankles, and all was fine, but it was really a lesson in how fast a toddler can get into trouble. The IL's don't say we are paranoid after that incident.......

The kids really like having those floaties, of various types (rings, arm floaties, suits with the built in flotation), but we still never let them get out of arms reach, and nearly always have 1 adult per child when it's water that is deeper than they can stand in. I consider them toys, not babysitters.
post #39 of 60
I have two stories to share....

The first is about my uncle and his youngest son who was about 18mo at the time. My uncle owned a house that had a hot tub just outside the back doort with a pretty garden around it....no fence. My uncle had two children who were a little older...about 8 and 6 at the time. The 8 and 6 year old ran out the door and left it open. The 18mo toddled out the door and went after a ball that was floating in the hot tub and drowned. He never forgave himself.

Please fence off your pools and hot tubs....it can happen in the blink of an eye!

The second story is about my son. We were at a hotel and all of us were swimming....myself, my dh, our 5yo, our 3yo, and the 1yo. The older two kids had floaties on, and we were in the pool with them. They had out 100% undivided attention. We decided it was time to get out and dry off. We took the floaties off of them, and not two seconds later my 3yo just jumped in. It took a second for it to register in my brain what had happened. I yelled to dh to grab him. At about that point the 3yo comes bobbing to the surface trying to swim....he was doing a pretty good job to. Dh grabed him and pulled him out of the pool. I gave him one of these

He scared the crap out of me. It really does only take a second.

One thing I have found that helps be be better concentrated on the kids when they are swimming is to be IN the pool with them. Its a lot harder to let your mind wander or to be distracted when you are in the water with them. Besides, it a great way to play with your kids and be involved with what they are doing.
post #40 of 60
I think the key is to teach your children how to swim at an eary age (I think I was 3-4) and make sure they have a life jacket on at all times around a pool if they don't know how to swim.
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