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Originally Posted by stafl
I honestly believe everything always has been and always will be. The "primoridal soup" or whatever the universe consists of has no beginning because it just is. Time itself is a construct of our minds to make sense/order out of the chaos that is, so for me there is no creation, no beginning, and no end.
Exactly. And if you don't believe it's possible for something to just "be," (I'm addressing the OP here), then how do you explain God?

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If everything/being needed a creator than who created God? The answer was always that God "just is" that he existed eternally. Well, if God can "just be" why can't human's "just be"?
Exactly. If God can "just be," then why can't we simply say that the primordial soup can "just be"?

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Originally Posted by Free Thinker
We know that the universe exists. When someone claims that these complex things, including humans had to be created, I can only ask how did this creator come into existance. The answer is often (IME) that God is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end, he has always been and will always be. This creator would *have* to be even more complex than his creation, in order to actually be in charge of it, right? How can this creator simply "be" yet our universe had to be created? This does not make sense to me at all. It makes more since, to me anyway that the Universe simply is, it is the constant that binds all life, just like God is to many people. Since I know that the universe exists, I can see it, and feel it; yet I cannot touch, or see God; I chose to believe in the Universe. Both have the same realm of possibility.

On another note, as an atheist, I simply believe in one less God than a Christian does. I get kind of aggrivated when I see Christains spouting things about God and Creation, like their creation story is the *only* one. There have been hundreds of creation stories, and thousands of God's worshiped over the last several thousand years. What makes you think yours is any different or special than any other God? What makes your creation story valid, and the others simply myths? Just something for you to think about.
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Originally Posted by sbf
Exactly. If God can "just be," then why can't we simply say that the primordial soup can "just be"?

I love that question. I'm also very fond of "If you can't remember events before you are born, then why should you expect conciousness after death?"

The whole concept of heaven, hell, etc, just baffles me.

I can see energy changing forms--we've got voltage, after all, but... harps and angles, and such??? Who come up with that stuff?
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