DTaP angst

[ktmama]

Hi mamas (and dads). Boy, do I need some advice! My dh just got a fantastic job in France! We are sooooooo excited to be moving there together with my 6 year old dd. We live in Colorado, land of multiple exemptions, and have never vaccinated her. Meanwhile, she goes to public school, summer camp, etc...without refusal because of the exemptions.

Anyway, French schools require both a TB vaccination and DTaP, NO EXEMPTIONS! However, we have resolved the TB issue by telling them we are living there temporarily -so they've agreed to just have her tested for TB each year.

Any advice for a way to vaccinate dd more safely? : I know that sounds ridiculous......should we do the vaccination in a different combo? I've already done a search and found some input on what herbs, etc to use before and after...but, I can use all the help I can get.

Merci in advance!

[PuppyFluffer]

Is homeschooling an option for you? I personally think there is no "safe" manner to vaccinate and would not vaccinate my child under any circimstance. Good luck!

[thepeach80]

Wow! I really have no advice. If they require the DTaP, there is no other combo you can get it in. They make T, DT, and DTaP, that's it. Maybe you can get a DR here to sign something that she's allergic to the shot (my son reacted to that one) and that will do or they can lie and say she got it (just trying to think of things)? You of course can give her things like Vit A and C to help if you do get the shot. Good luck!

[saintmom]

Ds no 6 has a vaccine induced seizure disorder.wouldn't touch the dtap with a ten foot pole.Sorry I can't be much help.I second saying your only there temporarily.

[mealymama]

I think in Europe they will separate D, P, and T on request... that may have changed. At least you could have them spread out if they are 100% inflexable w/ no exemptions. I despise them all but homeschooling is not realistic for some.

[thepeach80]

That's true sometimes I forget that other countries make vaccines differently. If you get it in the US though, to get P, they have to be together.

[Gitti]

Do you have a friend who's an MD? Just have him sign a shot record without giving the vaccine. It's done in Europe quite a bit. And if not here, do it over there.

[polka123]

Originally Posted by Gitti

Do you have a friend who's an MD? Just have him sign a shot record without giving the vaccine. It's done in Europe quite a bit. And if not here, do it over there.

OR : : do it yourself .
My adult DD is vaxed : I knew no better BUT her "official" shot record is mainly scribbled initials & dates...

easy enuf :

[Jazmommie]

Check to see the ages usually given--here in USA they do not give the DaPT to kids over age 7

[ktmama]

anyone know where I can get an "official" Colorado vaccination card? :

[thepeach80]

Do you have a free health clinic somewhere or your DR might have one. I know the only one I got for AJ was in his happy you were born card from the governor. I don't have a clue where it is! I forgot about the over 7 part! If you can hold off till her 7th birthday, she can't have the shot here and I don't think there is one quite licensed yet in Europe either. In that case, that would at least cut out one thing in the shot.

[mamabutterfly]

Wow, how did we ever discuss secret things before this guy appeared? => :

:LOL

Good luck to you - you've gotten some good ideas here I think. Hope it all works out okay.

mb

[Mirzam]

Originally Posted by ktmama

anyone know where I can get an "official" Colorado vaccination card? :

Try your DD's current school. I realize school is out now, but I think the offices are still staffed for part of the time at least.

Good luck

T*annu

[wednesday]

Somewhere on the CDC site there is a pdf for blank shot record forms, plus an example of how to fill one out. I know I've seen it linked to from this site before, but I can't find it now. I wouldn't usually recommend faking it but in your shoes I think I would make up a completed record. It's not like the school is going to send for your daughter's medical records from overseas, right? Maybe if you search through the vaccine archives you can find the link.

ETA: I found it -- http://www.cdc.gov/nip/recs/immuniz-records.htm#recs

You would want to print out the sample record for children and teens. The second page of the document shows how different vaccines would be recorded. If it were me I would probably record the DTaP, polio, and MMR so it wouldn't look suspicious. You could get an idea about what dates to put down for each one by using the feature on the CDC chart that makes an immunization scheudle for your child based on their date of birth: http://www2a.cdc.gov/nip/scheduler_le/default.asp

[ktmama]

Wow! I'm overwhelmed by all the support and truly devious thinking here, folks!

I'm checking into all your suggestions, but am reluctant to lie or "bend the truth". However, it's good to have options and I have a bit of time before I need to exercise any of them. If there are any other ideas, please keep them coming!

Will absolutely look into regulations for vaccinating over 7 year olds with DTaP in France. DD will turn 7 just before school starts. :nana: Wish me luck!

[mattemma04]

Originally Posted by ktmama

anyone know where I can get an "official" Colorado vaccination card? :

>>>
Lol,I have a few from my peds office.Hey what can I say.I get bored waiting and check out all the papers he has
I would homeschool if I had this situation.Oh and the mantoux test insert
is online at aventis.It too can cause allergic reactions.Ofcours the other option is x-rays or a deep from the lung sputum test.