MMR question - What exactly are these ingredients?

[3_opihi]

Hi everyone-

I haven't been in here for awhile, but I was reading over the product insert and I was wondering if someone could explain to me what exactly are these ingredients:

human diploid lung fibroblasts - the insert states, "...strain of live attenuated rubella virus propogated in wi-38 human diploid lung fibroblasts."

fetal bovine serum

human serum albumin This is the one I am wondering about most. what excatly is it and how is it processed?

It seems these are all ingredients in the rubella part of the MMR?


TIA

[polka123]

human diploid lung fibroblasts is fetal tissue

The WI-38 cell line was developed in July 1962 from lung tissue taken from a therapeutically aborted fetus of about 3 months gestational age.

http://locus.umdnj.edu/nia/nia_cgi/c...=7&query=WI-38

http://poisonevercure.150m.com/wi.htm

http://www.atcc.org/SearchCatalogs/d...tccNum=CCL-171


here's some animal serum :
http://www.atcc.org/Products/AnimalSera.cfm

[3_opihi]

Hmmm... so they just inserted the word diploid instead of fetal? I wonder where they get the fetuses? That is really creepy.

[thepeach80]

If I remember correctly, the MMR and CP were initially created using aborted fetal cells. From there they have regrown the cells over and over again and used those in the vaccines. Both are just uber-yucky! I'm not sure about how the human serum is processed, maybe I can find something. I would look at the CP shot too and see what the similarities are in processing.

[thepeach80]

This site helped a little I though. At least it covers where they get the albumin from and how it's processed somewhat. http://www.jrhbio.com/pdf/pNDC44206_251.pdf

[Gitti]

Originally Posted by thepeach80

If I remember correctly, the MMR and CP were initially created using aborted fetal cells. From there they have regrown the cells over and over again ...

...and so they have turned into cancer cells. They are now euphemistically called "contiguous human diploid cells".

[Jane]

Or Stem Cells. An immortal cell line isn't really cancer or stem cells, it's really something all it's own.

The ingredients are basically the weakened virus itself, the cells the virus lives in, the food for the cells, and the broth the cells live in.

Polka's quote shows where they got the fetus. It's just one fetus, not many, and they got it from an abortion. Diploid means fertilized. They don't say fetal because the regulators and doctors and companies all know that means fetal, and diploid gives more important information.

[fourgrtkidos]

I wish more ppl knew that their beloved vaccinations were grown on aborted fetal tissue.