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post #81 of 128
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Originally Posted by Valérie.Qc
I have a question for you: would you ask for the bones if you had a deer or another big animal from hunting? I know I will ask for the bones if we buy a beef but i'm not sure about wild animals...
yes, definitely

one thing that i might do, if i could figure out the how/where/cost of it, would be to have big game tested for that weird neurological disease.

now... if only i could get dh to go out bow hunting.
post #82 of 128
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Originally Posted by tomsgirl
Hey, just noticed something. NTs typically need a lot of "equipment". Cast iron, dehydrators, glassware, etc. Just wanted to suggest that y'all check out www.freecycle.org. You can give & receive...
I watch freecycle too! Yard sales are also a great place to find these things! I see cast iron all the time, we have enough already though!
Angel
post #83 of 128
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Originally Posted by Valérie.Qc
I have a question for you: would you ask for the bones if you had a deer or another big animal from hunting? I know I will ask for the bones if we buy a beef but i'm not sure about wild animals...

Another question: I've read about saurkraut done on the counter and would like to give it a try but I don't know what type of countainer to use. Is there something special to use? can you show me what it looks like?

Ok, enough for this time
I wouldn't hesitate to use the bones of venison for broth. Unless someone knows a reason you couldn't?? I've made duck broth before that was wonderful!

I've made saurkraut in a glass jar with a seal. It worked fine. You could use a ceramic crock or even make a small batch in a mason jar. A good book is Wild Fermentation. I'm reading it now. Here is a link to the site
http://www.wildfermentation.com/

Good luck!
Angel
post #84 of 128
Thanks for the link on wild fermentation. I am looking forward to checking that site out more closely.

I have a question. I want to make granola. And I want to soak the oats beforehand. Is that possible? How would I go about doing that? And would it make good granola? Should I sprout them? Can I even do that? What's the difference between soaking and sprouting?
post #85 of 128
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Originally Posted by fourangels
I've made saurkraut in a glass jar with a seal. It worked fine. You could use a ceramic crock or even make a small batch in a mason jar. A good book is Wild Fermentation. I'm reading it now. Here is a link to the site
http://www.wildfermentation.com/

Good luck!
Angel
Thank you!

I went to this site and saw the crock they used; I'm pretty sure I've seen something like that at the fleamarket - will look for this tomorrow

I will probably wait to do the sauerkraut until the weather cool down a little and hope for less humidity; it's so humid right now that my cucumbers are rotting before they are fully grown
post #86 of 128
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Persephone
What's the difference between soaking and sprouting?
Soaking means just that, it is soaked in water/whey/whatever. If you want to sprout the grain/seed, you would soak first, then drain well, then rinse and drain 1-2x a day until you see little tails coming out of the seed. Then it is officially sprouted.

I am pm'ing you a recipe for a granola soaked in kefir/yogurt and dehydrated from the nativefamilynutrition yahoo group. I can send it to anyone else interested as well, or if you are a member of that group it is message #2165.
post #87 of 128
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Originally Posted by Valérie.Qc
I've been lurking and learning a lot for some times now and I think it's time for me to get in

I haven't read the book, Nourishing Traditions, because I couldn't find it - but I just saw few minutes ago that Amazon.ca finally have it!!! It's gonna be my next purchase

I have a question for you: would you ask for the bones if you had a deer or another big animal from hunting? I know I will ask for the bones if we buy a beef but i'm not sure about wild animals...

Another question: I've read about saurkraut done on the counter and would like to give it a try but I don't know what type of countainer to use. Is there something special to use? can you show me what it looks like?

Ok, enough for this time
Does www.overstock.com ship to Canada? It's $16 US, including shipping.
post #88 of 128
Thread Starter 
Has anyone looked at the Garden of Eating book? It looks really cool! LaLa posted the link to it a while back. It looks like a paleo-type diet except with LOADS of produce. Just my style!
http://thegardenofeatingdiet.com/

I'm going dairy-free at the moment to see if it helps with my hayfever. We just butchered our first chicken and it was one of the most traumatic things I've experienced in a while. Now we are inundated with chicken stock, over 2 gallons! We turned the edible innards into sausage which worked really well.
post #89 of 128
yeah, i never had much of a craving for any chicken i've butchered myself. if it was a necessity i'd get over it but hell, i like my chickens (when i have some) & the eggs are a good enough bargain- i eat chickens that are strangers to me, lol.

glad your sausage turned out, got a recipe?

i'm not sure how long i'm going to continue dairy-free with sam- his skin got bad again, and next week at the dr i'm going to suggest allergy testing. i mean, what if all this time he's had a problem with soy? or corn? argh.

i think i'm gonna do bread, with all these great beefsteak tomatoes around. thankfully i livelied up my sourdough a few days ago. (and my kefir lived well in the goat milk, even forgotten for a month!) and homemade walnut oil mayo. (oh man, i forgot to order good eggs! ****ok, i just did it, aracauna eggs of green & blue! and raw goat's milk, & pastured fresh buffalo, yeah! to my door tomorrow afternoon!)

suse
post #90 of 128

Hey

Hey Toraji, ok, found this link! Sorry I must have missed it in the clamor of trying to read/post/deal with the kids

Suseyblue, you mentioned your Ds might be allergic to soy and corn? They are both 'problem' products unless treated 'special'. Here is some info on soy:

Avoid soy flour. Soy contains a high phytate content as well as potent enzyme inhibitors (enzymes help you to digest food, you eat strong inhibitors, you've just compromised your digestion). These inhibitors are NOT neutralized by mere soaking. They must be inactivated by slow fermentation, like in the making of traditional fermented products like, natto, miso or tempeh. The antinutrients in modern soy products and soy flour can inhibit growth and cause intestional problems, swelling of the pancreas and some believe, cancer. In addition, soy contains a high omega 3 content (good), but that quickly goes rancid (bad) when the bean is made into flour. The phytoestrogens in soy have been promoted as being a 'wonder food', but they are actually goitrogens that depress your thyroid function.

Corn flour is bad (BAD) for you if you don't pre-soak it in a limewater solution to free up the nicotinamide (B3 vitamin). Soaking corn flour also improved the amino acid quality of proteins in the germ. It used to cause a disease called 'Pellagra' (sore skin and disorders, fatigue and mental disorders). Simple soaking prevented this problem. If you are buying 'Masa' flour, it's already been treated, however, it's probably going rancid or heading that way. : All 'whole grain' flours should be IMMEDIATELY refridgerated or frozen to preserve the natural oils in them. (Wish the stores would catch on to this and get with it).

Here is how to make 'limewater', for soaking CORN FLOUR if you are making your own:

LIMEWATER SOAK SOLUTION
In a two quart jar (sun tea jar works fine),
add about 1 inch of 'pickling lime'.
Fill rest of jar with filtered water.
Seal, shake, and let sit overnight.
The powder will settle (don't use this part).
Gently pour off the water to use for soaking fresh ground corn flour.
This is your 'limewater'.
Keep in a cool place, but no need to refridgerate.

OK, I promised I would post some more recipes on 'Good Eats with Wheat' thread, though I will be posting with various grains. /sigh I got several threads going now to read heheh...Sorry if this was posted somewhere in here, tried to 'speed read' it while BFing baby, and he was TEETHING on me!! So kinda distracting hahah, to say the lest.

/hugs

Heather (Xenabyte)

Great thread, btw!
post #91 of 128
it's an allergy thing i am worried about, with his excema; but thanks for posting the reminders (esp the limewater; my 'wild fermentations' is due at the library soon!)

i am making menudo & tacos tonight & getting into the masa, for sure (such a convenience, the nixtamalized- that's the word, right? corn.)

suse

ps anybody else seen a cilantro shortage? mine has all bolted & i had to go to 3 stores to find some! (and it looks pretty ragged.) where is all the cilantro? is there a plague?
post #92 of 128

Braver Woman that I

Toraji! You a brave woman!

Ugh, I STILL remember 'chicken killing day' at the old farmstead. I hated that...and especially the 'plucking'. I think we gave our mom gray hairs! She spent good money to get chickens for us to have for our dinner table, then none of us kids would eat any of our 'pets'! (we'd raised many of them from 'egg' with a little hatchery set up. We DID love the fresh eggs, though. So she got a clue (after our first traumatic chicken killing event) and we just raised them for eggs!


Suseyblue,

You making me hungry! I guess I need to whip up some tortillas myself. Black beans sound good to me today! Hope the allergies aren't too bad. I put calendula cream (made by Weleda) on my hubby's 'dry patches' and it really seems to help. Also, do you give you son flax seed oil or some other EFA suppliment?

Heather (Xenabyte)
post #93 of 128

Alfalfa Sprouts

Someone mentioned alfalfa sprouts a bit back. Here is why alfalfa sprouts might not be the best thing to eat, at lease not in quantity:

They contain an amino acid called, canavanine that can be toxic to humans and animals when eaten in large quantities. These sprouts inhibit the immune system and contribute to inflammatory arthritis and lupus. The mature plant uses up the canavanine, so you could just eat the mature plant, I guess with safety (like most grazing animals do).

Another food favorite 'bites the dust'....

Heather (Xenabyte)
post #94 of 128
that was the info, thanks!

i have tried borage oil externally, & taken enough flax, fish oil & evening primrose personally to up the levels in my milk, but haven't given it to him directly (maybe i'll whip some flax oil into his vegan 'butter', since i haven't given up on the dairy elim yet.)

but... i got the eggs & goat milk, & OMG OMG OMG the goat milk is so pure & fresh & good, & barely goaty! it is by FAR the cleanest, tastiest goat milk i have EVER tasted. i *love* it. 8 bucks a gallon, & the HUGE blue & green aracauna eggs (beyond jumbo!) a buck & a half a dozen! (the fresh local buffalo won't come till next week.) DELIVERED! i am in raw milk & good egg ecstasy. the quality is superb. i am doubling my order of milk next week.

i am gonna turn goat lady on to kefir, mine has finally grown enough to share a bit

suse
post #95 of 128

Eggs and Goat Milk

/bahhh hahhhhhh

I want some big blue eggs! and Fresh Goat milk!!!

Is that a local only thing, or do they ship ????

I've been buying my Kefir from Whole Foods Market, would LOVE to get some kefir grains! I have tried some goat cheese and really liked it!

I'm in Colorado, near Colorado Springs....do you think they can air mail eggs? I doubt they can do it for the fresh milk though

I get good eggs from the health food store, but they are NOTHING like we had on the farm!

Heather (Xenabyte)
post #96 of 128
hmmmn, i am sure she wouldn't ship, but it did take a few years of earnest & diligent yapping to everyone i meet to track this lady down; there's got to be somebody with extra eggs near you, somewhere closer than tn! (man, i passed thru some beautiful ranch country last time i was in colo.)

(yes, i get the hint, lol, i've got enough for you & goat lady- pm me your name & addy & i'll send you some for the actual cost of shipping, just paypal it or mail me a check, 'k? it's gonna be a SMALL amount tho', but it's tough & will do the job. someone from here who shall be nameless sent me some the same way- my kefir fairy, lol. it may take me a few days to get to the po tho'.)
post #97 of 128
Thread Starter 
suse, I just made up the recipe for the chicken sausage. Threw the edible innards into the food processor minibowl, chopped it up, then added fennel seed, salt, paprika, allspice, clove, garlic, pepper, a slosh of good hot sauce, and semolina flour to dry it out (would have used breadcrumbs if I had any instead, also would have added some sage too). Then fried it up in a cast-iron skillet. We ate it with homemade sourdough pizza, it was pretty good.
post #98 of 128
oh, that sounds delish, toraji. i'm sure semolina worked v well, reminds me of boudins rouge with their rice & *blood* (yumyumyum!)

suse

ps crabcake stuffing in zucchini rampicante shells, served with walnut oil/lemon/ tarragon mayonnaise***salad of baby spinach, radicchio, purslane, tomato, goat cheese, with bacon dressing. a simple meal tonight ok, i got crazy. (yes, the breadcrumbs in the crab were nt sourdough & cornbread. cracklin' cornbread.)
post #99 of 128
ps crabcake stuffing in zucchini rampicante shells, served with walnut oil/lemon/ tarragon mayonnaise***salad of baby spinach, radicchio, purslane, tomato, goat cheese, with bacon dressing. a simple meal tonight ok, i got crazy. (yes, the breadcrumbs in the crab were nt sourdough & cornbread. cracklin' cornbread.)[/QUOTE]


Ummm....excuse me, if you don't have enough to share with everyone then you should not be bringing this up! That sounds exquisite! Wish I was there

I just ate bacon, egg and cheese on an english muffin. No nitrate, grass fed bacon, with free range eggs from our local farm, raw jack cheese and a whole wheat english muffin, yum, but nothing like the yummyness you are describing!
post #100 of 128
Toraji - I have a billion questions for you! You're doing what I hope to be doing very soon. How many chickens are you raising? And do you feed them soy? I sooo want to raise goats and chickens!!! Also, would you mind posting the sourdough pizza recipe if it's not too much trouble please! Is your starter just whole grain flour and water or did you add wild yeast? OKay, that's all my questions for now!!
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