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Have you ever asked for a "thermasol free" vaccine option

post #1 of 31
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for your child at your pediatricians office? Or have you asked to read the ingrediants of the vials to be used in search of thermasol?

I'm dreading addressing this with our doc (she already thinks I'm a bit odd)... would love to hear how others have approached the question and how the question was met by the proffesionals.

Thanks
Kimberley
post #2 of 31
I asked once for the vaccine insert for one shot and was told they give info when the shot is given. I told them I had that and I wanted the insert to see what was in it etc. I was told she would find one and call me back, right, like that happened. There were other reasons, but we never saw that DR again. Your best bet is to do research on your own and then ask the DR if you need to to maybe see if his info lines up w/ yours. Check out http://www.*********/vaccines/pack.html for actual package inserts from the vaxes. I believe by law they have to give the inserts if you ask, but from my story you can see it's not always done. Good luck.
post #3 of 31
I have a doctor who will give vacines on a delayed schedual so that they are one at a time. The EPA and FDA recommend that your child only recieve 1 mcg of mercury a day. And thimerisol contains this per individual dose. So, do not give more than one at a time. Also, you can request individual doses, that come in a single dose vial and are preservative free. The last time I had asked for the preservative free individual doses, my doctor said she was having a hard time getting them because the manufacturers aren't making them in large quantities. That would be sort of admitting that there is a problem with the mercury.

Also, your child will not have the protection of a blood brain barrier until after 3 years of age. If you want to vaccinate, consider waiting until then when her body can have some of it's own built in defense mechanisms help her defend herself from the harmful parts of the vaccination.

warmly, Michelle
post #4 of 31
Our children's pedi actually offered thimerosol free vaccines to us, but we explained that it was other additives that concerned us as much as mercury. The look on the nurse's face when we asked her for an antibiotic, aluminum, formalin free vaccine was priceless.
post #5 of 31

thimersol is just the beginning

I agree with Sasha, most of the vaccines contain aluminum(a carcinogen) and formaldehyde(as a preservative!). I mean who the hell thinks it is okay to put this stuff in vaccines? The insert for Prevnar states that it contains all three additives in the first paragraph. I mean how can they be so blatant about these things! Formaldehyde in a vaccination for our newborns! There really is a lot more to it that the thimersol.
sandra
post #6 of 31
the ingredient lists i looked up myself.

about the thimerosal, i asked him directly.... and he told me that he had chosen to go with all thimerosal-free vaccines months ago.
post #7 of 31

What about other carriers?

My daughter is 2 1/2 and we live on a farm. She is Vac free so far but I'm concerned about Tetanus. Oue health dep says the DT shot does not have Thermasol in it but something else.. Depaxol maybe? I don't know.
What is safe?? Well more what has the least amount of mercury??
If I had a choice I wouldn't get her any vaccines since I'll be homeschooling and I also don't want an autistic child, but the risk of tetanus scares me.
post #8 of 31
Aluminum is a carcinogen?
post #9 of 31
Yes.

Most health food advocates will tell you to toss any and all aluminum cookware in your kitchen before you do any kind of healthful change over.

I took a course in Macrobiotics before and this was the first thing I was instructed to do, however since I had been into the health thing for as a way of life for all of my life, this was not a concern.

Aluminum is also in the leavening of baked goods, deodorants, and toothpaste.
post #10 of 31
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Originally Posted by Katri'smama
My daughter is 2 1/2 and we live on a farm. She is Vac free so far but I'm concerned about Tetanus. Oue health dep says the DT shot does not have Thermasol in it but something else.. Depaxol maybe? I don't know.
What is safe?? Well more what has the least amount of mercury??
If I had a choice I wouldn't get her any vaccines since I'll be homeschooling and I also don't want an autistic child, but the risk of tetanus scares me.
You are in good company. Tetanus was the very last vaccine that Dr. Robert Mendelsohn "lost faith" in as a priest of the religion of Modern Medicine. My Father, as a Chiropractor, gave up on tetanus early in the 1960s...before that, he would advise people to get it as prophylaxis after the fact, not before.
post #11 of 31
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Originally Posted by klothos
the ingredient lists i looked up myself.

about the thimerosal, i asked him directly.... and he told me that he had chosen to go with all thimerosal-free vaccines months ago.
Doctors were supposed to do that years ago for most childhood vaxes.
post #12 of 31
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Originally Posted by thepeach80
I asked once for the vaccine insert for one shot and was told they give info when the shot is given. I told them I had that and I wanted the insert to see what was in it etc. I was told she would find one and call me back, right, like that happened. There were other reasons, but we never saw that DR again. Your best bet is to do research on your own and then ask the DR if you need to to maybe see if his info lines up w/ yours. Check out http://www.*********/vaccines/pack.html for actual package inserts from the vaxes. I believe by law they have to give the inserts if you ask, but from my story you can see it's not always done. Good luck.
Yes, by Federal Law you are supposed to be able to give informed consent to any procedure or drugs or injections you are given.

WTF? She was going to let you see the package insert with all of the important information AFTER she gave the shot? That is not right! :
post #13 of 31

typos

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Originally Posted by edamommy
for your child at your pediatricians office? Or have you asked to read the ingrediants of the vials to be used in search of thermasol?

I'm dreading addressing this with our doc (she already thinks I'm a bit odd)... would love to hear how others have approached the question and how the question was met by the profesionals.

Thanks
Kimberley
FYI, all vaccinations contain thimerasol as an ingredient to preserve it; today they simply contain less.

If your doctor thinks you are odd, get another one. You hire the doctor as a health consultant for your child. As such, you should treated with respect, not looked at as some kind of nut. A doctor is someone you can work with, not someone who laughs at you or disregards your opinions.

JMHO.
post #14 of 31
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Originally Posted by Katri'smama
Our health dep says the DT shot does not have Thermasol in it but something else.
There are two versions of the DT shot. The multi dose not only contains thimerosal, but thimerosal in its "full-strength" amount of 25 micrograms!!!

You can get a single dose DT shot which is considered thimerosal free - but anyone giving their child the DT shot, should look at the vial on the counter to make sure it's a single dose vial. There will be trace amounts of thimerosal in this version however. The manufacturer is able to claim it's thimerosal free because the amounts are "under the radar", so to speak.
post #15 of 31
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Originally Posted by applejuice
FYI, all vaccinations contain thimerasol as an ingredient to preserve it; today they simply contain less.

If your doctor thinks you are odd, get another one. You hire the doctor as a health consultant for your child. As such, you should treated with respect, not looked at as some kind of nut. A doctor is someone you can work with, not someone who laughs at you or disregards your opinions.

JMHO.
According to Johns Hopkins that's not necessarily true.

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm
post #16 of 31
That's the amount they admit to. Recently there was a study done to test these supposedly thermerisol free vax. The ones tested were found to be FAR from free of thermerisol.

-Angela
post #17 of 31
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Originally Posted by alegna
That's the amount they admit to. Recently there was a study done to test these supposedly thermerisol free vax. The ones tested were found to be FAR from free of thermerisol.

-Angela
Do you have a link to that study or know who did it? Because if that's true, that leaves manufacturers open to gigantic litigation.
post #18 of 31
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Originally Posted by ashrob123
Because if that's true, that leaves manufacturers open to gigantic litigation.
They wouldn't be open to what I would call "gigantic" litigation - maybe false advertising and get a fine from the FDA.

It's not like it's illegal to produce vaccines with thimerosal in it. If that were the case, then I could see the potential for "gigantic litigation."
post #19 of 31
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Originally Posted by LongIsland
They wouldn't be open to what I would call "gigantic" litigation - maybe false advertising and get a fine from the FDA.

It's not like it's illegal to produce vaccines with thimerosal in it. If that were the case, then I could see the potential for "gigantic litigation."
It is gigantic if they say it's thimerosal free, it isn't and something happens to a baby. Especially if it happens to someone who has found out about vax and decided to vax only if it was free of mercury.
post #20 of 31
This is the source for the information that even allegedly mercury-free vaccines are not, in fact, free of mercury:

http://www.hapihealth.com/vaccine/vaxtest.html

The front page of mothering.com reported on this a few months ago as well.
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