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post #1 of 55
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Subtitle: I'm going to kill my mother...

My mother is very much of the opinion that as much television as possible is just GREAT for kids. She is very disrespectful of my opinion on the issue. A few months ago, she showed up with a copy of Monsters Inc. and gave it to Talia before I could see and object. A few weeks later, she showed up with Finding Nemo. I intercepted that one and told her she might as well take it back to the store. She got all snotty and said "Oh, she'll just see it at somebody ELSE's house." I said, "I don't care, I don't want to own it." So, my mom kept it for "herself". Which, of course, meant she kept it to try again later.

Mind you, I'm not 100%anti-television, just anti-marketing, anti-Disney and anti-six hours of television a day. Call it 98% anti-television.

So, yesterday I was out with Mom and she started in again on how "When the new baby comes, I can give you Nemo, and it'll keep Talia occupied while you take care of the new one." I gave her a litany of reasons why I didn't want it - including I found it too violent for a toddler, I don't like the merchandizing blitz that's still in full force, and I just don't want it. So, today she shows up and Talia runs to meet her on the porch. She comes running back in squealing "Mommy! Nemo!" carrying the dvd. My mom comes in and says "Oh, I brought it in my purse so you could look at it first, but Talia looked in my purse and took it herself." *cough*bulldookie*cough* My Mom is a well established liar, and I know when she gets it in her head to do something she'll do whatever it takes to get away with it. So, I'm pretty certain she simply gave it to her; Even if she didn't, obviously she brought it along knowing Talia would find it (knowing full well that Talia always looks in her purse.)

So now we have this dumb dvd that I don't want at all, and Talia is *screaming* for it constantly. For a child who spends most days with no television, and even on rainy days is lucky to see a two hour movie, she has literally watched it five times. Every time I refuse she screams until snot runs out of her nose and her face turns purple. Now, mind you, she has *never* screamed for something like this before, and anytime she's ever even started demanding something like that, she hasn't gotten anywhere. I swear, I don't think I've ever seen a junkie as desperate as she is over this stupid movie.

So I'm trying to decide whether to take the dvd back to my mom and tell her to stop defying my authority, and take all the weeks of whining and griping that will ensue, or use a very mom-like tactic and just break it, then lie and say that Talia got ahold of it and did it.

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post #2 of 55
My guess is that maybe this is becoming a control issue for you guys. Most toddlers who are allowed to watch movies (or even listen to CDs or have books read to them for that matter) get fixated on one movie/cd/book for a specific period of time and then never want to see it again (or at least for a long time). And if you are telling your dd that she can't watch it, it's only going to make her want it more. So my advice, for what it is worth, is to let her watch it, don't make a big deal about it (which probably means you're going to have a bruised tongue from biting it so much!), and before you know it, she'll be "done" with Nemo.
Good luck!
post #3 of 55


Take it back to her and tell her to stop defying your authority. Tell her what she did and however she did it was not cool at all. You're her mom, not her.
post #4 of 55
Take it away while she is asleep and sell it/thrift shop it/trash it. You don't owe your mother an explination. maybe I'm a jerk, but that's what I would do.
post #5 of 55
Ooo, that too. I like that idea.
post #6 of 55
We love Nemo, but I would not give in to my child's demands. You should just put it away tonight, where your DD can't see it, and if she asks tomorrow just tell her you dont know where it went. And do that everytime your Mom gives your DD a movie. If your Mom asks about it, tell her that you gave it away. Eventually she will stop sneaking your DD things if she knows that they will be given away.
post #7 of 55
I would definately not break it and lie. JMO, but as you said that is just like something your mom would do...break the cycle, mama...:LOL If you don't want it, be honest about it. Do what you feel is right. My kids watched Nemo 3 times a day for about 3 weeks, and now they never watch it, but they are older than your DD. Kids get fixiated because they learn by repetition and they like to do/see something over and over until it becomes predictable (memorized), once that happens, they get over it...so just like if she wants the same book read over and over, it's the way little ones learn.

I'm being totally lighthearted here, no offense intended at ALL.
post #8 of 55
I had posted this real cool thing about how kids learn by repetition and need to memorize things so they are predictable and all that, but I lost it somehow, and DD is wanting to Nur-nur, so I'll just quickly say that I do not think you should lie about it to your mom, either be honest and give it back to her or just hide it from your DD if you don't want her watching it.

post #9 of 55
Thread Starter 
*sigh* well, that's what I've been hoping so far, which is why I've given in so far even though I tried to refuse her... But, seriously, this one dvd has played literally five times today. Granted, she's spent some of that time jumping on our bed and some of it in a different room. So, it hasn't been a full ten hours in front of the boob tube. But, still...

It's also becoming a control issue with my mother. Give her an inch and she takes a mile - more literally than anybody else I've ever heard that cliche used to describe. I say no toys that take batteries and make electronic sounds. I give in on one single toy (a toy cell phone because Talia was so obsessed with my real one, and I couldn't find a non-electronic toy one to save my life,) and she starts showing up with battery operated toys constantly. I say no clothing or toys with characters/merchandizing. I decide I like *one* Sesame Street toy (a really cool, big plush ball divided into three colors like a beach ball and a different face on each color side), suddenly she's buying Elmo winter coats at the thrift store.

So, really, while I'm frustrated about the actual situtation with having Nemo playing constantly, the root of the issue is actually my mother's defying my choices. I'd say I'm pretty darned stubborn about standing up for my decisions, too. But, she's so passive aggressive in defying me. I've confronted her on it, too. The problem is, she's generally a good Nana, a great helper to me - especially now that I'm down to the final count in this pregnancy, and this stupid crap just isn't worth severing our relationship over.
post #10 of 55
Thread Starter 
Wow, thanks for all the fast replies So far all the ideas here have good merit... I'll keep pondering all of them.
post #11 of 55
Man, BTDT.
Good luck getting this out of her system.
post #12 of 55
I'm feeling totally nasty tonight, but I'd crack that DVD over my knee and give the parts back to Mom.

I'd cut those elmo coats in half too. I bet she likes money more than she likes being right. Go against your saving urges to fight back!

Disney knows what it was doing when it made those movies. They are addictive and fun and make kids demand them. Your mother knows what she is doing, too. Just think of her with mouse ears whenever she does it.
post #13 of 55
This was posted a whil back. I can't resist reposting it.
http://www.sloppynoodle.com/cards/nemo.jpg
post #14 of 55
yeah. Good luck. My mom sends dd all kinds of videos, and she is of the tv is great for kids mind set. My mom watches tv all the time, especially while she's grading papers or doing research (she's a professor) She has the tv on for background noise. We don' have cable, thus don't get any network reception, but we do rent a lot of videos. I'm about 75% anti tv. I like to be able to have absolute control over what dd watches. At least when she's at home.
My mom has sent videos I thought were dreadful and inappropriate for dd (Lilo and Stitch, for one). She used to send several hours of nick jr, complete with conmmericals. I realize I can't win this battle. I've also noticed that while dd is a little older than your dd, she is a pretty savvy tv watcher. We watched Lilo and Stitch, and I told her about what I didn't like about it. Lilo and Stitch got old really fast. She does go through the phases of watching something all the time, and when she was younger she threw tantrums when tv time was over. DD now turns the tv off herself when the video is over, and she finds something else to do. She may watch the current fave every day, once a day for weeks.
It took some time and tactful requests to my mom not to send things she hasn't viewed herself, or to warm me ahead of time if a video is coming. DD had to learn that while it was fine to enjoy something day in and day out, once a day was all she got. And she has a stash of videos at my parents' house in TN. If they want to babysit when we visit, as long as they don't let her play with knives or in traffic, gamble, or hang out with disreputable people, I turn a blind eye. They raised me and I turned out okay, despite the constant din of tv.
Maybe your situation is different somewhat. It really boils down to training mom and daughter. And if you throw it away, don't lie about it. My parents send pretty terrible toys, too, sometimes (and very awesome ones where they've been coached about my and dd's preferences). I don't throw them away. DD gets bored with them very quickly, and doesn't notice when they disappear into the attic. Kids know crap when they also know quality.
post #15 of 55
I won't comment on Nemo since I happen to like the movie :

What I WILL comment on is what your mom is doing. That's just wrong of her to go behind your back on everything (the whole give an inch take a mile). I would seriously take a garbage bag and everytime she brings something for DD you don't approve of put it in there. Once that bag is full go put it on her doorstep with a note explaining that you will continue to do this as long as she continues to send them.

Good luck.
post #16 of 55
I would give the movie back and explain one last time that you do not want the movie- or any other movie because of your choice to not let DD watch TV.
I see it just the same as if someone gave your child candy after you said no. I would be pretty ticked off too. It's too bad that your DD has to go through this. Maybe if you explained to your mother that this is only hurting your DD and you'd appreciate if she would take that into consideration.

Best of luck to you with this. I know it can be difficult getting it through to others who just don't seem to get it!
post #17 of 55
I think you've figured out the important thing.


Quote:
Originally Posted by tboroson
...she's generally a good Nana, a great helper to me - especially now that I'm down to the final count in this pregnancy, and this stupid crap just isn't worth severing our relationship over.

Maybe you can just let this slide for now and revisit the issue when you have more energy, your hormones aren't raging, and the new baby dust has settled a bit. Nothing will be gained by alienating your mom right now, if she is to help you when the baby comes.

I do understand...I have BTDT w/my own mom. After 14 years and four kids, I have learned to pick my battles carefully.
post #18 of 55
OMG it is SOOOOOOOO toddler crack. I just let dd watch it 20 times a day until she was sick of it. Now she will watch maybe two minutes of it and get up and walk away. She will ask for it oh so occasionally, but never really watches it anymore. I have the whole thing memorized now though. :LOL

I HATE TV. I didn't have one hooked up until we moved in here and it is always on and I hate it. But I let Nemo slide because I like it myself. She doesn't really realize there are other movies out there for her so she doens't ask for other ones. Anyway, if you can stomach it, Nemo for almost a month solid- yes it did dramatically change her behavior for the worse that month- worked to rid us of our Nemo addiction. It was a hard month. It wasn't worth the struggle anymore to keep her from watching it, so I let her get sick of it, and when I niticed she was weaning herself I took her out every single day so there weren't opportunities to watch it. HTH

As for mom, I would talk to her about it and ask her to respect your wishes in the future.
post #19 of 55
The good news is that it will pass, it's very much a 2 year old thing. The bad news is that I have all of the dialogue to A Bug's Life memorized, just as you would have all of Nemo memorized if this continues. You must stop the madness. Memorizing Disney movies does something bad to a person. I have this weird twitch now...

That is really crappy. I agree that you don't owe her any explanation. The cool thing about being a mom is that you can magically make things "disappear". Things "disappear" around here all of the time... Good luck.
post #20 of 55
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fianna
My guess is that maybe this is becoming a control issue for you guys. Most toddlers who are allowed to watch movies (or even listen to CDs or have books read to them for that matter) get fixated on one movie/cd/book for a specific period of time and then never want to see it again (or at least for a long time). And if you are telling your dd that she can't watch it, it's only going to make her want it more. So my advice, for what it is worth, is to let her watch it, don't make a big deal about it (which probably means you're going to have a bruised tongue from biting it so much!), and before you know it, she'll be "done" with Nemo.
Good luck!
I do agree with the toddler power struggle. We went through this for awhile with Nemo. After about a week straight it went away and the kids haven't asked to watch it since.

As for your mom that would really tick me off!! I'm not anti tv or anti disney but I am against certain other things and if I put them on my do not buy or bring to my house for my kids list and mom did it anyway I would cuss her out. Thankfully as much as she has boundry issues she is pretty good about not buying stuff I have said not to. I have no real advice on this one except if you are really against your child watching it and you know your mom will not take it back then donate it somewhere like a library or somewhere other kids can get use out of it but tell your mom it got broken or lost.
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