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post #21 of 102
That is a beautiful poncho.

I am a beginning knitter and know how to bind off, but I don't quite understand the directions at the last part.
Ember, could you help?
post #22 of 102
That shawl is beautiful and I'd love to make it. However, I don't understand the directions! I'd say I'm an advanced beginner-intermediate knitter. I know how to do the dropped stitch by wrapping the yarn twice when knitting in one row then knitting just the first stitch then dropping the second loop on the second row.

If you start binding off, then you're changing the shape of the scarf, no?

Please advise
post #23 of 102
Man I need to learn how to knit!!! I love it!
post #24 of 102
Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetTeach
That shawl is beautiful and I'd love to make it. However, I don't understand the directions! I'd say I'm an advanced beginner-intermediate knitter. I know how to do the dropped stitch by wrapping the yarn twice when knitting in one row then knitting just the first stitch then dropping the second loop on the second row.

If you start binding off, then you're changing the shape of the scarf, no?

Please advise
I am pretty sure you are overthinking it. You basically knit a big scarf and when you are binding off, you drop your stitches. So you bind off X stitches and then WHOOPS! you drop one, etc. Then you just sort of pull it a bit so the stitch you dropped drops all the way to the end - creating the long area you see striping the poncho.

Does that make sense?
post #25 of 102
Adina,
Yes, you should learn to knit! I believe it's what helped me to remain sane (if you can call it that) after I lost Nazir.


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I am pretty sure you are overthinking it.
Ha! I've been accused of that once or twice in my life! LOL. So let me continue on in that overthinking vein:

Now, if you drop the stitches only as you're binding off, then you what do you do with all that yarn at the bottom of the scarf? How do you even out the rest of the stitches around the dropped ones?

Thanks!
post #26 of 102
Yup, still overthinking :LOL

There won't be anything at the bottom of the scraf. In essence, you are creating the areas on the poncho that look like stripes. KWIM? That is what dropping a stitch every X stitches will look like once you make sure it has dropped all the way to the bottom. If you have trouble visualizing it, you may have to knit a swatch (or the poncho) and try it yourself. I often have to do that for something to make sense for me.
post #27 of 102
Lauira!
Yes, I think a swatch is definitely in order here, but thank you because your last explanation has helped it to start to make sense to me.
post #28 of 102
Adina is going to learn to knit at the end of the month, and I'm going to teach her!!
post #29 of 102
You're not the only one who's overthinking!
*Bind off 5 (K, BO, K, BO, etc), drop 6th stitch, yo, bind off, yo, bind off*
So the etc inside the parenthesis is another Knit? so you have
*k, bo, k, bo, k, drop stitch, yo, bo, yo, bo* to end
Then what do you do after that? Do you then bind off the next row? So I'm knitting the side (short end) of the shawl and not the long edge right? I think thats whats confusing me too.
post #30 of 102
Hmmm, well I was reading it wrong...

I assumed it was just bind off 5, drop 6th, bind off 5, drop sixth, etc. So every sixth stitch was dropped. What is the yo for? I think I am visualizing it wrong! Now *I* need to go knit a swatch!

Hopefully, the OP will be back to help us newbies!
post #31 of 102
One more question for the OP - did you block the poncho when you were done?
post #32 of 102
Thanks for posting the dimesions Ember.

I knit a swatch before I started to get the guage of the yarn I was using and because I didn't really understand the binding off instructions either. I followed them exactly and it worked perfectly except I had a stitch twisted somewhere along the row I dropped so it didn't completely unravel. I'm hoping it works out right on the real thing- I'm about half done. It's going slowly because my yarn is very skinny.
post #33 of 102
Thread Starter 
Sorry guys! I've never written out a pattern so most of the confusion could be coming from my end. Let me see if I can explain it better. I hope I don't make it sound even more confusing. It really is super easy.
BTW......Thanks Laura for helping to translate my thoughts! I think I need you IRL. :LOL

Basically you're knitting a plain ol' scarf. At the end you bind off to end it right? That's all you're doing here except you drop every 6th stitch for that open lacey effect. The yarn over part is to give spacing for that dropped stitch.

So let's see if I can write it out better.......
Knit stockinette until the length you want. After your last purl row you will start binding off (finishing).
K1, (K1, BO, K1, BO, K1, BO, K1, BO) - {that's 5 stitches}
Now drop the sixth stitch right off the left needle.
Next Yarn Over and Bindoff twice (YO, BO, YO, BO)......this is to make room for the gap of the drop stitch.
Back to (K1, BO) x5, then drop the 6th, yo, bo, yo, bo, (K1, BO) x5, drop sixth, yo, bo, yo, bo, etc. etc.
At the end of this row there is only one stitch left on your right needle. Just finish it off.
Now for the fun part....start unraveling the dropped stitches. Just run your finger down the strip, some pulling and tugging may be required.

To answer the blocking question......The first shawl I didn't need to block because the yarn was so thin and silky it just fell into place, no rolling. The second shawl I did is going to have to be blocked (although I already stitched the edge together thinking it'll eventually fall into place like the other one). So I guess it all depends on what yarn you're using.
I did notice one thing. The silkier yarn will snag easier. It's easy enough to just pull the weave back together but the silky yarn with the loose open weave tends to move around a little.
post #34 of 102
So basically you made a scarf, but how do you get the opening for your head?
post #35 of 102
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ember
Then fold scarf in half and stitch up one of the long sides leaving room for the neck at the folded part.
Voila'! You're done.
This was in my directions post. I'm not sure how else to explain it.

You're folding the scarf in half lengthwise. Then stitch one of the edges as far as you want. The neckhole is at end where the fold is.
The sizing of then neckhole would vary depending on the size of the wearer or how much you want it to drape (you can even have it drape off the shoulder by leaving a bigger hole). It's easiest to start stitching from the end (short ends of the scarf) up to the neckhole (folded end of the scarf). That way you can pop it over your head as you go and try it on to see how far you want to keep stitching.
post #36 of 102
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Next Yarn Over and Bindoff twice (YO, BO, YO, BO)......this is to make room for the gap of the drop stitch.
AHA!! This is what was confusing me. However I knit a swatch and didn't follow the yo, bind off, yo, bind off part to a tee and a made a V shaped dropped stitch part. Now I get it...

Thanks so much! It's amazing how once you actually *do* a pattern it can make so much more sense. Now, what kind of yarn should I use---I have so many to choose from

One last questions...did the edges roll because it was stockingnette stitch? Would you recommend doing a garter stitch or seed stitch edging to prevent the rolling?
post #37 of 102
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SweetTeach
Thanks so much! It's amazing how once you actually *do* a pattern it can make so much more sense. Now, what kind of yarn should I use---I have so many to choose from

One last questions...did the edges roll because it was stockingnette stitch? Would you recommend doing a garter stitch or seed stitch edging to prevent the rolling?
I find it's easier for me to jump into a pattern than to figure it out from the beginning. I was too intimidated to try the LTK soaker pattern but when I finally did and just followed step by step I found that it was a piece o' cake. And this project is WAY easier than the soaker was!

As far as yarn for the shawl, I say go with a thin and silky feeling yarn. I am definitely going to go back for some of that Cotton Twist yarn. It just gave the shawl such a sexy feel. I really loved it.

I guess you could do a garter or seed stitch on each edge, I don't think it'll affect the drop stitch. But it really isn't necessary. The first shawl didn't have any roll whatsoever. The second one was minor and it just ironed out pretty easily.
post #38 of 102
I am going to the local yarn store to pick up something to start my own poncho!!! I sort of get it now and am going to try one out. Wish me luck!
post #39 of 102
bumping this thread:

I am about 1/2 done and have another question.
Why does it need to be so long (72")?
post #40 of 102
Thread Starter 
You definitely don't have to knit it that long. Like I had said, wrap a piece of fabric around you to see how long you personally want it to be. You can also keep wrapping the scarf around you as you go to see when you want to stop.

The longer you make it, the more assymetrical it will be. I wanted it to be very drapey and assymetrical so mine was long. The shorter you make it, the more squarish it will be.
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