Originally Posted by aisling
Please go back and read some of the other posts (mine, Annettmarie's, Jennisee's) and try to understand that your statement is off and so the rest of your assumptions are off. What I have bolded is NOT the goal of an Amish family. It is as much a byproduct of the admonishment to live seperately from the world as is natural living.
Doing without modern conveniences is NOT the goal itself. If that were the case, there would be no exceptions made ever, because there would be no need for it. Being as Old-Fasioned as possible is NOT a tenant of their religion, nor is NFL.
If has not been deemed hypocritical or contradictory to use disposable diapers, by the Amish Bishop and/or Elders and/or anyone else in a position to make the decision, then it is not contradictory, no matter what an outside "english" person thinks.
Can you see how understanding a little of what the goal of being "Plain" is about makes a difference?
I did read the many of other posts. I do see what you are saying. I would not consider myself to be ignorant of Amish customs in general since I spent the majority of my life in Amish country and have personal acquaintences and some friends within the Amish and Mennonite communities. I have read books on the community and read their newspaper frequently and shop at their stores & restaurants many, many times and lived on the same road. I've been to their churches and weddings and homes (mostly former Amish/Mennonite). I've had Mennonite/former Amish friends since childhood. My parents maintain friendships within the Amish community. That said, I am not the end-all-be all expert on Amish life.
I am aware that the main goal is being plain. What strikes me as odd about the disposables is that in the pursuit of being Plain they have chosen a life mostly free from many modern conveniences. A mostly natural life and many old-fashioned practices is the by-product of how they have have practically applied their belief in the plain life. I shouldn't have used the word hypocritical because that is rather inflammatory and judgemental. Sorry about that. I remember as a kid being struck this same way when my Mennonite friends got permission from their church to borrow our VCR tv because it didn't have reception and only played videos. I thought it was odd that they would be allowed to watch our movies (not all clean!) but no TV. I also thought it was odd when I saw buggies with radios playing rock music in the early 90's. I understand that 'the Plain life' does not equal NFL, or old fashioned etc., but in many if not most cases, it has played out that way. So when you see modern things like diapers, etc. you wonder, at what point did they decide that was ok or did they do it and not ask? It just stands out as being so opposite as the rest of the life they live.
I realize there are many different ordnungs and have many different rules and some are way more loose and some are way more controlled. Even in Ohio/PA there was great variety between the groups. Variety as in some wore all dark /same colors, some decided orange triangles were too flamboyant for buggies, some decided rubber wheels were not ok for buggies. Mennonite groups are another story - lots more variety there.
I guess I kept posting because I got the impression that some felt that only those who are ignorant about the Amish life would be surprised about seeing disposables. I doubt even my Mennonite friend who cut her hair and wore sweat pants at home after she got married, would use disposables. She's still pretty all-natural. I'll ask my mom to ask her Amish friend about it the next time she goes to her house to pick berries together. Maybe she could tell us something? Are there any former Amish here that could speak on the subject? Did I miss someone saying that they were?
Again I am sorry about the use of the word "hypocritical". That was pretty judgemental. I'm not trying to be an a** about this but since the route they have chosen to live out their convictions about the plain life have played out as life without modern conveniences, etc. major exceptions to that have always struck me as odd.