hi mamamaya and mama Q!
i'm glad the discussion led to lotus and tying or not tying. (because i keep forgetting to ask about it) i'm not super attached to doing the *full* lotus birth, esp. b/c it may be cold and just be challenge enough to ec/bf and stay warm. but if i crave eating the placenta, does anyone know how long after the birth i can still eat it, if it's been attached to the babe? we tend to use nature cure for our healing, which gains much of it's basis from watching animals in nature (ex. hot/cold soaks, clay/mud packs, rest when it's needed, etc). so when i think about birth, i think about mama animals waiting a while, then eating the placenta/not tying off the cord. so i'm wondering if tying started as a practice with impatient ob's who just want to cut and run, rather than let it serve it's purpose before cutting. it sounds like most mamas that don't tie, have no probs. with bleeding/excessive leaking. anyone know anything different? i'm not sure i'll want to eat the placenta, but i'm open to that and lotus birth the same--just kinda figure we'll go with the flow and know when the time comes.
i also have been doing a little thinking about ob-induced ideas. i figure this uc-loving place is the best place to bring up these ponderings, since we all kind of (or wholeheartedly :LOL) question the allopathic model of birthing and see that the intelligence stored in a woman's body tends to be plenty to have a nice birth & a healthy babe, especially when the lifestyle leading up to the birth supports it, too. i'd love it if anyone has any thoughts to share about it. i'm wondering about the concepts of trimesters and transition.
as for trimesters, seeing as how pregnancy averages 10 lunar months, and in many cultures, the concept of 9 months is newer (if not still unknown), i'm having a hard time seeing 10 months being split into 3. the only way i could see it is if it's in 3 lunar month sections with the last being a babymoon where the buildup to birth is addressed, or the woman given extra attn, etc. i just don't know. also, that time is just the average, what about the 9 or 11 lunar month pregnancy? there seems to be alot of excuses given by doctors when they don't know why something happens.
i know this may be an unpopular idea, but i don't get morning sickness being an expected symptom of pregnancy and normal, or should i say neccessary and expected. i get pregnancy as being extremely normal and necessary for the continuation of species, so i don't get how it would factor in that we could survive in the wild if most of the pg women were puking and needing to lay down so they don't get sick, and can't eat. i felt like my version of ms was my body detoxing, as nausea, vomiting and poor appetite tends to be viewed outside of pg. so i did some cleansing for a couple weeks and poof, it was over. now when i start to get a twinge of it, i do some more cleansing and it's gone. so i'm wondering if ms is more a symptom of our lifestyles, diet, etc, rather than a symptom of pg. it makes sense in my mind that the baby would thrive in an environment built on whole foods, happy thoughts, and healthy amounts of activity, and the body would seek that state. (whew! am i going on or what?! jstu wait, there's more! )
ok, now transition. it's purpoted to be one of the stages of labor. but then you read these uc birth stories and alot of them leave the woman saying, "wait, i can't be ready to push, i haven't had the torture of transition yet. it can't be this easy!" or "i woke up and was fully dilated" so, i'm thinking that transition is nature's way to complete the birth within the limits of the woman's energy/ability. so if she hasn't been able to open/release everything that needs to be, nature does a little a&#-kicking, if you will. but to birth unhindered and free, allows the woman a greater chance to more "gently" open as she needs to in order to birth. not that this happens in every freebirth, i know. but freebirth seems to reduce or eliminate the need for transition to occur before the baby can pass into this world. whereas hosp. births tend to rely on it...(yeah, don't get me started on their reliance being on submission, epidurals, and pitocin/cytotec! :LOL)
any thoughts? any other ideas? anybody else question the state of affairs when it comes to what's viewed as normal in pregnancy? i want to hear all about it!