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Sposies, Sposies EVERYWHERE at a LLL meeting!?!?!?!?!?!?

post #1 of 166
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Okay, I went to a LLL meeting a couple of towns over this morning. I was referred to this leader, because I am looking to possible become a leader myself.

Anywho, I get there w/ Dylan in a Luxe Baby WIO in shades of blue and a little T-shirt. I just sat in awe and looked at all the bebes w/ covered and sposied bums!!!!!

I mean these women were sitting around talking negatively about mamas that feed thier babies jarred food. They were talking about all of the CRAP in the jarred foods, including the organic ones. They continued to talk about thier organic diets and how good it was for the bebe.

All the while I am sitting there thinking - you have crystals in your dipes that are made of chemicals so they can swell up when they get wet and that TOUCHES your bebes skin!!!!!!! Not to mention that the bebes bum bum is all hot, muggy and sweaty. (I have ice on my tongue right now trying to reduce the swelling from me biting it so hard!!!! )

Here is another shocker - I sling carry Dylan everywhere no matter what. I fully expected to walk into the LLL meeting seeing all kinds of slings. I saw one Maya and the lady's 6 year old daughter was wearing it!!!!!!

So, back OT, I made a REALLY BIG DEAL of getting in the middle of the circle to change Dylan. I painstakingly took out my spray bottle w/ wipes soulution, my cloth wipe and my dipe and in no time flat had Dylan in a striped RB WIO!!!

I mean there was one lady that was so CRUNCHY that she bragged about not having a phone, TV, a computer or getting the paper. BUT she runs down to the store to shove sposies on her bebes bum!!

By the way, we were there for just over 2 hours and NOT ONE OTHER MAMA changed thier bebe's dipe! The crystals were justa swellin'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a topper to the story, this afternoon I went to my regular BF support group (not LLL) and there were 3 mamas w/ slings and 2 mamas that asked me what those neat pants were that Dylan had on. :LOL I had changed him into a giraffe VK fitted.

MAMAS, I do love you guys and all, but I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY want a mama here in the physical/real life to share : ing w/ too!!!!!!! If I can't find 'em at a LLL meeting, where will I find 'em?!?!?!?!?

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post #2 of 166
oy.... that sucks!! Poor kiddos!

My LLL meeings were full of baby wearing mamas and about half of them were CD'ing mamas. It was a little too far of a drive when H was little so we didn't go often
post #3 of 166
Our LLL is about half babywearing ladies... but the only other one in cloth is my irl friend Pretty sad I say if you can't even find them there!!!!

I feel for you!!!!

But I bet your little one was soooooo cute

Tammy
post #4 of 166
At my LLL, everyone slings, nurses toddlers (well, those that have toddlers), some homebirth, most go to natural food stores...but Bran is the only CD'ed baby in the group...
post #5 of 166
You know it's funny, my LLL group was the only place i had ever seen cloth on babies IRL. They didn't really advertise or anything, but they were the ones i went to for info when i first started. I'm sure some of the API mamas did it, too. Quite a few, really. I guess i'm lucky, but i would have been very frustrated, if i was in your position. I wouldn't have bitten my tongue, either . I would have outed their hypocrisy immediately.l
post #6 of 166
That is awful!
post #7 of 166
I've only attended one LLL meeting, and I don't believe anyone CDed there either. I changed Gracie and was stared at like we were doing something weird. The leader was about to tell me where the trash can was and then said, "Oh." (You know, the tight "Oh" that means "How very odd.")

I'd have drooled over your WIO! Have you checked the tribal area? I've met one MDC mama IRL, and there are several in my area who CD. And I know some more from another board.
post #8 of 166
... breastfeeding does not equal all-natural mama, or even mostly-natural mama...

IMO these two things do not go hand in hand. all of the bf'ing mamas i know IRL use sposies; the one i knew who used cloth diapers religiously ff'ed.
post #9 of 166
Sorry to hear that no one in your group cd their child. In my bf group ( we don't have a leader right now) We are 2 that cd and then there is one who come once in a while.

It's true that bf doesn't not mean all-natural mamas and cd, etc..
post #10 of 166
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... breastfeeding does not equal all-natural mama, or even mostly-natural mama...
True... but if they were sitting there dissing people who use baby food (even the organic) you would think they would be more cautious about what they put on their babies bum, lol. I think thats the part that doesnt add up
post #11 of 166
WOW!! I have never been to a LLL meeting, but a friend of mine was a LLL member when she was younger. She is so proud of me for using cloth and remembers how grossed out her fellow LLL members were when disposables came out. So sad you saw the reverse
post #12 of 166
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I haven't gone to a LLL meeting yet but plan on it this month. I HOPE I see cloth.
I went to a meeting where I would have expected all babes to be in cloth and only 1 did (out of 5-6).
post #13 of 166
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but if they were sitting there dissing people who use baby food (even the organic) you would think they would be more cautious about what they put on their babies bum
... not a lot of people know what's wrong w/ sposies... yk? really. there is a lot of ignorance out there. (like my dad, who insists that cloth is worse for the environment than disposables...)
post #14 of 166
Yeah, I was just going to say......
They just dont know. I didnt know at first, there was anything wrong with sposies. and of course they dont know to change their baby's diaper within 2 hours, using a sposie. I dont change a cloth diaper every two hours.
I would think it would be a big help for you to just casually mention that disposables are ladden with chemicals that are not great for anyone. They really are just uninformed. Make friends with someone, and mention it to them, then find another person, and so on, but dont beat them up because of their not knowing.

I think the resurge in Breastfeeding, will eventually fuel the slow resurge of cloth diapering. We'll be the veterans of diapering in our generation, when most people are using cloth again, we can say we've been there and done that. lol
post #15 of 166
As a cloth dipering mama, I have never experienced such snobbery amongst cloth diapering mothers. Why do we cloth diaper in the first place? There are lots of reasons that people choose to parent in the ways they do.I for one diaper my child in this way for the environmental/comfort reasons. I would prefer that people did not fill our landfills with lots of crap. I would also love for there to be world peace, but I don't spend my energy critisizing others who choose different lifestyles. What is a LLL meeting for anyways? Be thankful that you are so enlightend... just look at what the rest of us poor saps are up against! I know I will get burned for this post but when did this choice become such a definining point for you; and why the obsession? (ignore me! )
post #16 of 166
LaffNowCryLater - Monica uses cloth too, so there are 2 moms at that group Our VAB LLL mornings is inactive right now . I have been to a few LLL mornings and no cloth in sight.


Yeah, I am constanly surprised that more people at LLL here does not use cloth. My first LLL meeting was in another state and a few moms there used cloth. Luke's Drawers in fact, it was cool.
post #17 of 166

As a newcomer to cloth, but staunch AP, I have a different perspective

I am a newcomer to cloth, but I am very AP. We do family bed, gentle discipline, and I am tandem nursing my girls. But Gracie still wears disposables (her choice) and we just started using cloth for Rosie. Rosie is wearing disposables at night, for swimming, and for some outings because I haven't figured those angles out yet.

I know that lots of touch and carrying babies is very important, and so is breastfeeding. I apologize in advance for this opinion, but I don't think that using cloth diapers is that important in terms of attachment parenting. It has to do with natural family living, which is a great ideal for people who want to pursue it. But to me, natural family living is different from AP, even though a lot of the same families practice both AP and NFL.

I think those other people at the LLL meetings will be inspired by your example. I know I have been inspired to try cloth again (after my first miserable failure with Gracie) because so many people around me use cloth. These women didn't ever preach, but they were enthusiastic and supportive and answered my questions. I think that your presence will have the same effect on them over time.
post #18 of 166
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Originally Posted by Village Mama
As a cloth dipering mama, I have never experienced such snobbery amongst cloth diapering mothers. Why do we cloth diaper in the first place? There are lots of reasons that people choose to parent in the ways they do.I for one diaper my child in this way for the environmental/comfort reasons. I would prefer that people did not fill our landfills with lots of crap. I would also love for there to be world peace, but I don't spend my energy critisizing others who choose different lifestyles. What is a LLL meeting for anyways? Be thankful that you are so enlightend... just look at what the rest of us poor saps are up against! I know I will get burned for this post but when did this choice become such a definining point for you; and why the obsession? (ignore me! )
You took the words right out of my mouth . Thanks . I just don't get it . I see such snobbish and childish remarks by people here and in the homeschool community . EVERYONE raises their kids different . Everyone doesn't raise kids the way you or I do . People are so quick to want to control or judge others because someone else's standards don't match up the same . Get a grip . If everyone would worry about their own house the world would be a better place .
post #19 of 166
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Originally Posted by Darrel
You took the words right out of my mouth . Thanks . I just don't get it . I see such snobbish and childish remarks by people here and in the homeschool community .
I'm sorry you feel that way.

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Originally Posted by Darrel
EVERYONE raises their kids different . Everyone doesn't raise kids the way you or I do . People are so quick to want to control or judge others because someone else's standards don't match up the same . Get a grip . If everyone would worry about their own house the world would be a better place .
I didn't see any "control" in the OP. More like frustration, seeing that all or most the people in the group were described to be very NP, I too would find it odd that they wouldn't choose to cloth diaper their babies. I see nothing wrong with the OP'r venting or sharing her feelings on the issue, this is a CD board afterall
And yes, I still feel bad those poor kiddos were in sposies for 2+ hours, cause I know it is not a good thing. Been there, done that. Live and learn.
post #20 of 166
I saw my first cloth dipes ever at a LLL meeting...and that was back when I was using sposies! I was actually a bit shocked myself!
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