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post #1 of 3
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sorry in advance, this post might not make much sense...

my ds is only 8 mo old, but i am fascinated by the idea of GD and all your diverse perspectives and i have been learning so much lurking around here.

one thing that is very important to me is that i want my ds to value community, communalism, interconnectivity, etc very highly. i want him to be someone who always thinks about how his actions will impact others. i want him to assume that he will be accountable for his actions. i want him to approach problems from a consensus-oriented p.o.v. i want him to be polite and respectful - not out of fear, but because it feels good and is the right thing to do.

[and a brief explanation of where i'm coming from with this:
1- it is my personal belief that one of the biggest problems w/ western/american culture is our individualism, and i could say a lot more about that but i will leave it there for now.
2 -i also am probably much more concerned about this w/ a son than i would be w/ a daughter, b/c i believe that girls in our culture are more socialized to have these values whereas boys in general are more socialized towards individualism, and i feel a need to counteract that.
3 - my mom was and is a wonderful parent in many ways, but one thing i regret is that she didn't really teach us manners. like how to speak respectfully to your elders, or not to put your elbows on the table, all kinds of things like that. i learned those things as an adult, and i find that i *like* having good manners. i find that there are lots of benefits. and i believe that elders desreve extra respect.]

so, what's my question... it just seems that sometimes GD is at odds w/ this. i am confused about how to do GD in a way that emphasizes the community not the individual, does that make sense? since i'm having trouble formulating this question, maybe i'll just see what your thoughts are on that, and go from there....
post #2 of 3
If you think GD is at odds with your goals, then you need to learn more about it.

Not only is it not at odds with those goals, it IS *imo* the only way those can be achieved.

People never learn from fear, resentment or force.

Love grows love, respect grows respect, obedience grows obedience.

Keep reading, researching and learning about non-punitive methods of parenting.

The goal should be a child who is SELF-controlled to do what is "right" because he wants to, who is polite because he WANTS to, who is a community member because he realizes it benefits him. Not a child who obeys because he is forced to. That (latter) never sticks.
post #3 of 3
thinking more.. The Continuum Concept is a GREAT way to learn how children learn about community and being part of that rather than being the horridly selfish individuals that are glorified in this culture.
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