30+ and TTC 12 mos+ 8/29-9/04 - Page 4

[alexisyael]

I'm in the beginning of the 2ww too, Velvet - I'll do my best to keep us both sane and zen

Laurel, I agree -- swearing from a Dr would have me up and outta there as fast as possible (unless it was Korin and she was describing a fan tastic movie or something... then I would laugh!)

L'Nayim, I'm SO glad my advice helped! Also, I hope you told your cousin what you were thinking -- that she looked gorgeous in those pics. It sounds to me like she may have some issues with anorexia (if her hair is thinning from weight loss... that can also be hyperthyroid). Be careful not to criticize her current weight, but let her know you appreciated her old look....

Did I mention my 5th wedding anniversary is this monday? Even tho M is super-swamped with work worries, he's still going to take the day off so we can celebrate (He normally goes in on "soft" holidays like Labor Day).

I need some ideas about something I can do for him that would be very special.... anyone got any?

[dani76]

Is there anything special you guys did for your honeymoon or wedding that you could re-create? Or maybe someplace that was special to you both while dating? You could find somewhere similar since, if I remember correctly, you've moved since the wedding. Good luck and congratulations! Our anniversary is on Sept.14.

I went to lunch with a MDC mama today!! She is really nice and her daughter is adorable. It was nice to be able to talk about the boards to someone in real life. She hasn't had any problems TTC, but told me about a good birthing center in Santa Cruz. So it was a good day.

I'm on cd 8, waiting for my egg. Hopefully it doesn't run off and hide like all of the other eggs lately....

[Stone Fence]

I'm back

but not with good news. The RE (and or the nurse that took my history) thinks that I am low to empty on eggs. Apparently I had an FSH test on April 1st(CD5). My levels were high apparently. Can anyone point me to info on FSH levels? The next step would be to try injectables and possibly donor eggs. I repeated to them that that was not an option.

What I don't understand, is why, my GYN didn't notice this. She's the one that ordered the test.

I'm ready to find a new set of docs (GP and GYN).

On top of this and the cat being put to sleep, my best friend and her DH are trying to adopt a little boy and things went haywire yesterday in family court. I cried lots yesterday. I'm scared for him and them.

Things are better today (I was so exhausted that slept really well), DH is at a loss. All he can do is hug me. He wanted me to call my mom but I didn't want to cry more. I haven't told my parents that we are TTC. I may call her over the weekend.

Thanks for being there mamas.

[coleslaw]

3 dpo and here we go... again

Amy, I don't know anything about FSH levels, so I can't help you there. I hope you get the answers you need. And I hope everything works out for your friend. I'll be thinking of them.

I have read some really enlightening books lately and would like to share. The first is "What You Doctor May Not Tell You About Premenopause". It is for women in their 30's and 40's since premenopause is something that can happen 15-20 years in advance of menopause. It highly recommends natural progesterone as a balancer to hormones that can go wacky at this time - due to our high stress levels, diet, lack of exercise, etc. I haven't finished it, but it had a lot of things in it that made me realize that I am not going crazy.

Another book is Women's Bodies, Women's Wisdom" by Chirstiane Northrop, specifically the section on fertility. A lot of great advice on the spiritual aspect of TTC.

She recommends a book called "The Whole Person's Fertility Program" by Niravi Payne and discusses some of what the book trys to accomplish. It leads you through a series of exercises to help you connect to where your mind/psyche is at regarding TTC. One of them asks you to create an esphitogram or basically, a family tree and fill it in with emotional and physical issues of your family members. If anyone has tried this, I would love to hear from you. I think I may buy the book.

Also, "Adoption After Infertility" has helped me. I don't think I will be adopting but the initial chapters go through the feeings and emotions with infertility and put it in perspective for me.

I have more to say about me that I need input on, but it will have to wait since dd is getting ignored and letting me know it. Have a great day everyone!

[Stone Fence]

Thank you...

Keri. I will look for those books.

DH and I always considered adoption. I think we'll start classes this fall. In the meantime I have lots going on to distract me.

I am so glad it's a holiday weekend

[mamaharsh]

Amy

I think the Fertile Heart website has some information on high FSH and what might be done naturally to overcome it.

Hope you have a nice weekend, despite the crappy stuff surrounding you.

Edited to correct grammar, sigh.

[gonnabeamom]

Just a quick post until I can really read -instead of skimming later.

Thanks for all the sympathy and advice. As a point of information-I happen to think I'm quite sexy, I like my body, and think it's damn cute. I just think I could appear in his favorite peice of lingere while doing obscene things to myself and he'd finish taking out the garbage, reading the paper, whatever. He's only turned on after I'm asleep or when he has every single thing done. Okay I'll stop venting now.

s to everyone

[alexisyael]

Amy, from what I recall, rising FHS levels indicate peri-menopause (aka pre-menopause). Your RE is probably more sensitive to those levels than your Gyn is -- probably more experience with them. That's not an excuse however - your Gyn should have picked it up earlier! (especially given your charting history, which I'm sure s/he didn't even look at :anger

There's a book at my library on rewinding your biological clock -- I'll try to figure out the name for you, it might help you decide what steps are next.

And Keri, thanks for the book suggestions -- I'm definitely going to look those up!

Dani -- hmmm... good suggestions, but we live in another country, on the other side of the continent now And we've also always been "do new things" type people -- we don't have "our song" or "our restaurant" or "our place" just b/c we've always enjoyed finding new songs/ places But you did give me a couple of things to think about! Thanks!

Belly Blessings!!!

[alexisyael]

gonnabe, it sounds like he is a) either a major dork or b) a major dork with a responsibility complex (can't *not* finish something).

Is he the type who wants to schedule everything (even if it's only in his head -- like, "at 6 pm I read the paper, at 7 pm, I eat dinner, at 8 pm I watch X, at 9 pm I take out the trash, at 10 pm, I go to bed..." )? ??? If so, then you need to talk to him about "scheduling GIO." It needn'y be mechanical, just that having a time when it *can* happen would be a good thing

[chiromama]

Well, I'm off to vacation.. going to glacier Natl park for a week. I'll either bleed, or not on the trip.. so I'll update you all when i get back next sunday. I'll miss you all sososoooo much! (pray for the non-bleeding option please!)

Just so you know, I may take a test on sunday, before we leave Spokane (stopping there to visit friends)... so I'llupdate if there is any good news.

The progesterone is making me so dizzy and werid. ... and I have tons of creamy watery CM... hmmm

[AdinaL]

Have fun!!!

I am also off on a trip tomorrow morning...be back on Tuesday!

[coleslaw]

Have fun Korin and Adina! I wish I was away this weekend as my MIL will be visiting. But I will be seeing off-Broadway show of The Producers tomorrow which hopefully will be fun.

[waiting4baby]

Oh, Amy! I would be stunned to learn that I might be "out of eggs" and previous tests should have clued my gyn into that. What's the point in a doctor specializing in the care of a woman's reproductive organs that they wouldn't know how to put your long cycles and fsh tests together?? Hmmpgh!! : I don't have any recommendations, but all the books that Coleslaw mentioned sound helpful. Sounds like you have a lot of sadness going on in your life - with your cat, your friends, and now this surprising news. Hang in there, honey. Things really do get better!! You are meant to be a mommy and it will happen!!

Alexis - Yes, when my cousin told me that I said exactly what I was thinking - that women are much too hard on themselves and that I thought she looked FABULOUSO at our wedding!!! Yeah, the thinning hair has really worried me. We used to chat quite a bit on-line during work when she was going through her difficult divorce. But now she has a new boyfriend and I haven't seen her in a bit. This might be the reminder I need to call her up and see how she's doing!!

Korin - Dizzy and weird for days does not sound natural. Women who don't have progesterone deficiences probably don't go around feeling dizzy and weird for two weeks post-O. I'm sure you would do nearly anything to be pregnant (wouldn't we all), but please talk to your doctor if the dizziness and weirdness continues (I'm sure since you are a doctor you know exactly what to say!! ). In any case, have a good trip and don't get close to any tall drop-offs!!!!! I don't want to see you in the national news being rescued in one of those helicopters from a cliff ledge by hunky rescue guys. The quote from your husband would read "She said she felt dizzy and weird, but she just had to get a better look at the nesting eagles."

Gonnabe - I agree with Alexis, your dh needs to get a clue or needs some cluing in. You're a sexy hot mama - what's wrong with him???? Sounds like time for one of those "delicate" discussions. If he's good at the scheduling in, perhaps that will work??

Not much new from me. Still waiting to O. I may not sign in this weekend - have a wedding and Bumbershoot (Seattle's annual 4 day music/film/performance art/food fest). I will miss you women. I love this thread - the women here are so experienced and can give such d*** good advice!!!

[Stone Fence]

I'd like to think...

my charting history helps, but it doesn't. I've only been charting for 2 cycles (that adds up to almost 5 months) so it doesn't really help. Actually, I never brought up my charting with any docs. I never got to that point.

Anyhow, I'm not going to feel to sorry for myself. We're actually going to have great weather for the entire holiday weekend (it's been a REALLY wet summer) and I am going to the fair and eating junk food. I love County Fairs. This is a mini-vacation for us.

Korin and Adina, have a great time!

[chiromama]

L'Naiym, when I told my doc Iwas Dizzy, she said it was just a normal side effect, and was glad that I was feeling the effects of it this time around. Today and yesterday I have been dizzy all day long... the other days it was just for an hour or so after taking it. Maybe that is a good sign. Coupled with the crazy amounts of creamy/watery cm, and the massive crying jag I had last night while watching John Kerry speak (I'm not that big of a fan of his, i was just thinking of a world where Bush wins again. ) have peaked my curiosity.

[chiromama]

And Amy, I'm so sorry you heard this news from your doc. Hope you find some peace and some better answers.

[chiromama]

Ok, one last thing before I go away...
I called the pharmacist, to check about the dizziness. He said that drowsyness is normal. I guess that's what describes what I feel more. I feel like I had a couple of margaritas, and I'd like to lie down. not really dizzy. so no worries, I'm normal. and probably not pregnant. :

Seeyou all next week!

[waiting4baby]

Korin - Ahhhhh! Drowsiness! That sounds much better than dizziness. Hope your trip is restful!! Oh, I also get weepy when I imagine four more years of King Bushy. So, I'm not sure it's entirely the hormones!!

[alexisyael]

Oh, hand-twin, how I am going to miss you! But I am sending you EVERY SINGLE OUNCE of "be pregnant, be pregnant" energy I can

Amy -- I love your attitude is Have a great time at the faire!

And Adina, I hope your camping trip is fabulouso, too

I'm going to try to get out and enjoy the last weekend of summer with my honey (and our anniversary weekend ) so I'm not sure how much I'll be around either, but I am sending you all: Belly Blessings!

(Oh that reminds me -- remember how it was a fellow bellydancer who got me started on that saying last spring? Well, during this trip I had multiple groups of bellydancers sending my uterus lots and lots of baby dust It was great. One of my friends even bent down and kissed my tummy quickly and said, "come soon baby" -- that made me almost cry! I thought you'd all appreciate it!)

[alexisyael]

Originally Posted by waiting4baby

Oh, I also get weepy when I imagine four more years of King Bushy. So, I'm not sure it's entirely the hormones!!

However, I also start ranting and raving and foaming at the mouth (OK, not quite when I think about it... so controllable anger is also a perfectly reasonable response, in my opinion.