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post #41 of 130
9/9/04 at 10:18am
OTOH,
I have also bout things from the TP for let's say $15 a diaper and when it no longer worked for us I could only get like $8 for it.

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post #42 of 130
9/9/04 at 10:22am
How is it not nice? To whom is it not nice? : The WAHM gets the price she asks (if she wants more she should ask more) and the second buyer gets to have a diaper she couldn't get any other way. The first buyer is, of course happy, because she made a profit.
post #43 of 130
9/9/04 at 10:33am
I won't buy them for more than retail, nor will I resell them for over retail. I also won't sell freebies. I try to do deals when I am letting diapers go b/c it is more important to me to have other mamas have diapers than for me to be trying to profit off diapers, which is never my intention. Also, if I got something for a deal, I pass on the deal when I sell it. That's why I've sold soakers for as little as $6 on the TP-I passed on the savings I got. If I wanted to make money off diapers I'd either use ebay or become a niche wahm. I'm sure it does hurt some wahms' feelings when they see freebies they've sent put up for sale or stuff resold for much more than they sold for originally, but I bet they also get a kick out of seeing just how high some items will go.
post #44 of 130
9/9/04 at 10:39am
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Originally Posted by lrmama
I just sold an El Bee for over retail, but I've also bought them for over retail. Does that even things out?

Offering a hyena item for over retail is okay in my book...no one is forced to buy anything. Should there be a TP rule that says that only retail should be asked? That way, everything "hyena" will go to ebay, and we can knock each other over in the bidding wars. Just my 2 cents, since I have a feeling my TP post might have prompted this thread.

Well I just bought said diaper for over retail. I had no problem doing this as I am not allowed to buy "used" diapers and if a diaper is in new or almost new condition and I really want the diaper, I'd buy it up in a second. I know if I didn't somebody else would. Besides the other El Bee I have I only paid $22 for so for me this averages out fine.

ETA, I don't buy over retail very often and try not to ever sell over retail, unless I have a good reason to do so...
post #45 of 130
9/9/04 at 10:40am
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How is it not nice? To whom is it not nice? : The WAHM gets the price she asks (if she wants more she should ask more) and the second buyer gets to have a diaper she couldn't get any other way. The first buyer is, of course happy, because she made a profit.
My sentiments exactly. Thanks for saying it much better than I did!
post #46 of 130
9/9/04 at 10:51am
This is what I think is not nice: (and this is just for example)
A mama offers up a used KP on the TP for let's say, $25.00.
Someone snatches it up.
That person then lists it on the TP for $60.

This has happened to me before, though not with a KP. It wasn't a case of "Oh, I forgot what I paid for it." Someone marked it up almost double what they paid for it, and must have listed it as soon as it came to them. It's not like they charged a few bucks higher or something.

True, everyone got what they asked for the fluff, but I just personally find it kind of rude and not nice. That's just me though, and I think it comes down to personal ethics.
post #47 of 130
9/9/04 at 11:13am
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Originally Posted by Lucysmama
True, everyone got what they asked for the fluff, but I just personally find it kind of rude and not nice. That's just me though, and I think it comes down to personal ethics.

It's not just you. I agree that it is about ethics - not the market. Like someone else said, ebay is one thing, but having it happen here in a special community seems wrong. People talk about sharing the love a lot here. I don't see making a profit off of a WAHM's product "sharing the love". Seems more like taking advantage of other mamas.

And I don't see the comparison to real estate. These are diapers sewn by hand by a mama who chooses to stay home with her children. It's on a totally different level, IMO.
post #48 of 130
9/9/04 at 11:26am
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Originally Posted by MamaTT
<donning flame-proof suit> I really do not see what the problem is with selling something as high as you can.

I mean, its just speculating. Now, diapers is a bit of a funny field to be doing that in, to be sure. But plenty of people buy a chunk of land that someone needs to unload, divide it into lots, and sell it for a huge profit. Not too many people get in a hissy fit about that.

Why is it any different from buying a baker's dozen of Elbee, and selling them individually (of lots of three, what have you) on Ebay?

It's just like real estate, people.

Now, that said, I have neither done this, nor do I plan to, but I really don't get the big deal.

It's not speculating, it's scalping. Buying someting you have no intention of using just to resell for a profit to others who weren't as lucky as you to get a VERY LIMITED slot. This totally burns me.

Isn't scalping illegal? Not suggesting that reselling dipes is illegal but is certainly strikes me as immoral (but not fattening ).
post #49 of 130
9/9/04 at 11:49am
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Originally Posted by AugustLia23
Well I just bought said diaper for over retail. I had no problem doing this as I am not allowed to buy "used" diapers and if a diaper is in new or almost new condition and I really want the diaper, I'd buy it up in a second.
I wanted to add that this has been bothering me all night. I really worried about the price I was asking, but I didn't want to lose money on the shipping. Does "over retail" include shipping, or not?
I don't want mamas to think I was scalping, or trying to rip off Laura. I got a dipe, it didn't fit, and I sold it for $2 extra above shipping. Is that a problem, considering that I waited over 10 months to get the order? I'm feeling really awful here, and hope no one hates me for this situation...
post #50 of 130
9/9/04 at 11:53am
WOW! This is a heated discussion. I guess I'll jump right in too. I think it's really crummy of people to snatch something up that they have no intention of using just to turn a profit. That being said.... If you buy a diaper and it doesn't fit, I see no problem with including the cost of shipping in the resale value. You're just trying to recoup your losses. And, if the diaper is in high demand then someone else will be quite happy as well.
post #51 of 130
9/9/04 at 11:55am
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by lrmama
I wanted to add that this has been bothering me all night. I really worried about the price I was asking, but I didn't want to lose money on the shipping. Does "over retail" include shipping, or not?
I don't want mamas to think I was scalping, or trying to rip off Laura. I got a dipe, it didn't fit, and I sold it for $2 extra above shipping. Is that a problem, considering that I waited over 10 months to get the order? I'm feeling really awful here, and hope no one hates me for this situation...
I'm sure noone hates you! I think people disagree, but noone hates another person for their view on this!

And, recouping shipping is different, IMO. I can understand adding a couple dollars to cover your shipping charge. If I buy something from a WAHM that comes to $20 with shipping and it doesn't work for us but is still new, I will charge $20 ppd and eat the shipping charge just because I see it as a risk taken when buying stuff online (how I wish diapers could be tried on before purchasing :LOL). BUT, I don't have a problem with others charging what they paid including shipping plus another couple dollars to ship to the next owner. What bothers me is seeing things for $10, $20 or more $ over retail.
post #52 of 130
9/9/04 at 12:07pm
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I don't want mamas to think I was scalping, or trying to rip off Laura. I got a dipe, it didn't fit, and I sold it for $2 extra above shipping. Is that a problem, considering that I waited over 10 months to get the order? I'm feeling really awful here, and hope no one hates me for this situation...
IMO, there is nothing wrong with what you did. Some people cannot afford to loose $$ on shipping for an item that does not work for them- and it's not smart business to loose $$ on the ship, either, if you look at diapering from a financial point of view. I hardly think that asking for an extra $2 to cover your shipping loss is taking advantage
post #53 of 130
9/9/04 at 12:16pm
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Originally Posted by lrmama
I wanted to add that this has been bothering me all night. I really worried about the price I was asking, but I didn't want to lose money on the shipping. Does "over retail" include shipping, or not?
I don't want mamas to think I was scalping, or trying to rip off Laura. I got a dipe, it didn't fit, and I sold it for $2 extra above shipping. Is that a problem, considering that I waited over 10 months to get the order? I'm feeling really awful here, and hope no one hates me for this situation...
Well, it doesn't bother me. I mean if you paid $20 for the dipe then tried to sell it for $35, that would bother me, but I'm okay with paying shipping and a couple extra dollars, AS LONG AS the diaper is accurately described. 2 nobody here is hating on you...
post #54 of 130
9/9/04 at 12:20pm
My 2 cents: I was really worried about this topic recently. I bought a Kiwi Pie new for my new baby and then really needed money. I sold it on Ebay (only time I've ever done that) because I usually end up trading everything I list on the TP and, like I said, I needed real money this time. The starting bid was $10, but the thing went for waaay more than I paid for it. I felt really guilty about that. I didn't buy it with the intention of selling it for more... it just turned out that way.

But otherwise, I never ask more than I pay, never ever sell something I got in a trade or swap, and usually trade for everything! Btw, I'm generally with Kellieblue on selling new things that don't work out: I charge the price I paid (w/o shipping) and make it ppd, so I usually lose $2 or so. But I don't see anything wrong with charging a bit more for shipping- I just figure if people have to pay the full price I paid, they'd probably rather buy their own new.
post #55 of 130
9/9/04 at 12:35pm
i'm the dissenting voice here but i don't have a problem with it. like greenluv said, it kinda feels weird to charge more on tp as this is "home" but if someone chooses to do that, so be it. for those of you who have a problem with this issue, do you apply this principal only to diapers or wahm products?
post #56 of 130
9/9/04 at 1:09pm
Not just diapers OR wahm products. I would feel the same way if I listed 2 tickets to some hot, sold-out concert, for $40, and another mama bought them just to resell at a higher price. I just think it is taking advantage of people's generosity, and not nice.
post #57 of 130
9/9/04 at 1:15pm
I heard it said in this thread that the WAHM needs to raise her prices. Probably true. Goodness knows we could all use an extra buck or two. But, what if they all do that, and then you can't buy a handmade diaper for less than 25.00-30.00? Then, you have driven up the prices so high that some people will never own a WAHM diaper because they can't afford it. That would be horrible, IMO. I know most WAHM's aren't in this to strike it rich. They want to offer cloth diapering to those who choose to do, and in a cost effective manner. And, most of all, they want to do so while raising their children.
post #58 of 130
9/9/04 at 1:16pm
Yeah, I don't see this limited to diapers, it's more of a universal rule. Ebay is different to me because it's not a community like I view mdc. I guess that's why I don't see this as the same as real estate.

A similar thing happened with a roommate of mine a few years ago. I wanted to sell an old car I had; he offered me a lower price than what I was asking because he said he wanted to "give" it to one of his employees. I said fine and accepted his offer, then I found out he actually sold it to him and made a profit. Not nice, imo.

Even though it's not a rule, I view the TP and the community here as a "sharing" among like-minded mamas, and I personally don't like it when one mama makes money off another.
post #59 of 130
9/9/04 at 1:38pm
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Originally Posted by kellieblue
And, recouping shipping is different, IMO. I can understand adding a couple dollars to cover your shipping charge. If I buy something from a WAHM that comes to $20 with shipping and it doesn't work for us but is still new, I will charge $20 ppd and eat the shipping charge just because I see it as a risk taken when buying stuff online (how I wish diapers could be tried on before purchasing :LOL). BUT, I don't have a problem with others charging what they paid including shipping plus another couple dollars to ship to the next owner. What bothers me is seeing things for $10, $20 or more $ over retail.
Exactly.
post #60 of 130
9/9/04 at 1:42pm
I agree, a few dollers above what you paid is nothing IMO. Adding on an extra $10 or more is kind atricky to me. And if you sell on ebay and your starting price is low than don't feel guilty if it goes higher and you make a nice profit you don't start out that way or your starting price would have been high, KWIM?
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