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post #521 of 650
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No. What they need is *their* mommy feeling like herself again. Good luck mama.

Try emptying the capsules into a tablespoon. Most of my capsules IIRC (and they do come in different sizes) take 10-12 to make 1 T.
post #522 of 650
Okay, here's what's been happening so far. While I was pregnant, I took both an adrenal and thyroid supp. the t. supp had l-tyrosine in it and I did really well. I decided to get back on both. I've been on the adrenal for a wk and the thyroid since yesterday. I've been a lot more even-tempered (yay) but I've felt a bit off...a slightly heightened sense? and feeling a bit tired as well. So, wired and tired? But just barely. So today, I left of the t supp (l tyrosine) but kept on the tryptophan and GABA and inositol. Much better, but each time I took my vit b-12 spray, I could feel that slight buzzed feeling again. Strange for one not used to feeling anything but down. But, I have been able to handle 3 extra kids, (a fam emergency) and a very busy day. So we're tweaking. I think I just need to get the right combo...I feel very hopeful.
I'll check in to let everyone know what's working--or not.
post #523 of 650
I found this thread about a week ago, and spent several days reading all this and a bunch of related sites, and searching.
well, I spent a heap of money and bought isonitol (150grams in powder), tyrosine, and omega 3 oil, epo, vit B, etc. I can't get the 5-htp or gaba in australia, but I'm giving all this a go. wait and see!
post #524 of 650
majikfaerie, can you find tryptophan? You can use that in lieu of 5-htp.

Well, today has been quite the day. I am going off of everything (that I've been on since monday) and trying them one at a time. TMC suggests beginning it all at once and then if you have problems to quit and restart with each supp individually. That is where I am. I've been back on my adrenal supp for a week or so and added the thyroid supp (I took both these when pregnant) Monday. It has l-tyrosine in it. I felt very good Mon, altho slightly wired. Tuesday, I added l-tryptophan, GABA, inositol, chromium, and GSE. All this in addition to my usual vitamin/mineral, cal, iron, mag, and vit c and b's, and fish oil, oh my.
So, yesterday I still felt a bit wired. I had anxious dreams and restless sleep last night. Today, some anxiety (taking no extra supps, just my general) and tense in the pit of my stomach, jittery, and very, very tired.
So now to figure out what's going on. I've read TMC twice now and I fail all four quizzes. I also think my hormones are raging, which is why I've decided (and finally am desperate enough) to eat my placenta as well.
I am still hopeful that if I lower the dose and start each amino individually that I'll be able to figure out what all this is about. Anyone else have any experiences like this? Ross says it's rare...
let me know what you think.
On Monday, aside from being slightly wired, I felt the best I have in so long. The difference between today and Monday are astounding.
post #525 of 650
Hello Ladies. I finally made it through all 27 pages of the thread! Whew! Tons of info. I am attempting to wean off of Zoloft. I was on a 75 mg dose and just this week I moved down to 50 mg. 1x a day. Did I read somewhere that it was not recommended to begin supplementation with aminos until all of the antidepressant is out of my system? I know I can probably take extra B vits, Omegas, Vit D, Magnesium etc before I'm weaned completely from the Zoloft, but I'm pretty sure I will benefit from Tryptophan, GABA and some of the other aminos. (I am high in 3 of 4 areas from the screener in TMC).
I am BFing my 22 mo. pretty often still- and am also wondering about St. John's Wort.
Does anyone have any thoughts for me- also any good experience weaning off of Zoloft and onto supps?
TIA
post #526 of 650
mamaheids, hello. I don't remember specifically what the mood cure says, but I think there is a chapter on meds and moods...anyone else know for sure?

Today I took a dose of GABA and inositol and no wired, jittery feelings! Yay. So that helps...I had a rough spot in the day, but on the whole, it wasn't too bad. How's everyone else doing? Still curious if anyone else has gotten the jitteries on the aminos...

Happy Valentines Day!
post #527 of 650
I don't think I can get tryptophan here either. (though it might explain why I'm a durian-lover - it's a natural source)

I started with the inositol (it finally arrived in the mail) but I got diarrhea and bad gas the day after, I don't really know if it's connected or not, but I was feeling so terrible yesterday with stomach pains (both bowel and menstrual) that I decided to stop everything. I'll slowly introduce stuff again, I'm just wondering which of the multitude of things I started taking caused it. or if it was totally unrelated.
incedentally, I noticed threadworm in DD's poop the day before, so the whole family took a worming tablet. which might have also caused it.

basically, I've hit rock bottom, and crashed right through and out the other side into a very dark place. I don't really know what I'm doing now, but I really hope some of these supps will help.
post #528 of 650
Does anyone here know whether this is a good brand for 5htp:

Nutraceutical Sciences Institute (NSI)

Thank you so much for all the information
post #529 of 650
I managed to find 5-htp :
it was freaking expensive though.
$50aussie (about $45US) For 30 tablets. but its formulated with other stuff.
5-htp 100mg
S-adenyosyl methionine 100mg
potassium phosphate 50 mg
mag phosphate 50mg
puridoxal-5-phosphate 5 mg
b12 400mcg
folic acid 400 mcg.

I hope this works. I've really crashed badly this week.
post #530 of 650
Is 5-htp ok to take while pregnant? sorry I forget, when I read this thread the first time I had no reason to ask
post #531 of 650
Mamas, we are all on classical homeopathy and it does help our coping with all of it. It addresses all behavioral, physical, emotional and mental characteristics by strengthening the immune system/vital force. Also, have you tried Bach flower remedies? They are band-aid options, but all natural.

Check the remedy finders (first 3 links) for selecting a Bach Flower for your particular situation:


http://www.ainsworths.com/remedy/default.aspx

http://www.naturallythinking.co.uk/p...dyfinder.shtml

http://www.essencesonline.com/qnr1-SelfEval.html

http://www.bachcentre.com/centre/remedies.htm

http://www.bachflower.com/38_Essences.htm

Try some Elm or White Chestnut Bach Flower remedy. The first is for 'when you temporarily feel overwhelmed by responsibilities' and the second 'for when thoughts go round and round in your head'. I love my Bach flower remedies.

Could you creates some mantras for yourself? Mantras are mental shields. They help to protect your thoughts from going into those black holes of despair. Something like 'There is plenty of time. We can work it out.' I know I have a lot of self-imposed pressure to "fix it", and giving myself permission to be in a space to THINK and BE can amp down the emotional charge of a situation.

Mine is "All is well. Everything is working toward my highest self. Out of this situation only Joy and Awareness will unfold. We are safe." I have it written down and carry it in my purse, in the car, on the refrigerator. I recite it to myself and it soothes the urgency to solve. It brings me peace in the moments of conflict and distress.


HTH,

Pat
post #532 of 650
Hey, everyone...
Great thread! Sorry if this has already been covered, but I wanted to double-check...is anyone taking l-tyrosine, GABA and/or 5-HTP while breastfeeding? Has anyone's doc okayed this? I spoke with a pharmacist/naturopath friend of mine who was not comfortable with those 3 while nursing.
post #533 of 650
Subbing! I haven't quite made it through all 27 pages yet, but this just might be what I've been searching for!
post #534 of 650
slowjig, firefaery was recommended these by her dr. (The beginning posts)

I am taking tryptophin instead of 5-htp, as well as gaba, l tyrosine (which my practitioner rec'd for my thyroid/adrenal issues while pregnant) and a slew of other things.

I've now figured out my specific dose needs...one tyrosine upon rising, a gaba in the afternoon, then another gaba and some tryptophin before bed. And I felt really good today. Sunday, I didn't take the tyrosine and felt awful.
I am breastfeeding. My doses aren't as high as The Mood Cure rec's. When I tried their lowest rec., I was very jittery--wired--tired. I felt much better today!!
post #535 of 650
What brands are you all using? I would really like to buy a decent brand of
5htp and tyrosine to begin with.

Thanks.
post #536 of 650
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Originally Posted by slowjig View Post
Hey, everyone...
Great thread! Sorry if this has already been covered, but I wanted to double-check...is anyone taking l-tyrosine, GABA and/or 5-HTP while breastfeeding? Has anyone's doc okayed this? I spoke with a pharmacist/naturopath friend of mine who was not comfortable with those 3 while nursing.
They are all natural substances found in the body. They aren't "unknown's." The problem is that they have never been studied and we don't "know" what the outcome is. Most ND's will still use these before referring a patient for meds because we also don't know what they will do (often they are okayed for nursing/pregnancy due to the deep pockets of big pharma only to be recalled and contraindicated later-it's happened several times.) The bonus for something like amino acid supplementation is that they are SUPPOSED to be present in the body. Same for Inositol-it's just a B vitamin. The other good part is that you can test for all of them should you chose to. Then if you come up deficient you know that there's not a problem with supplementation.

I know several people who were put on GABA and 5-HTP while nursing by different practitioners. I think best case scenario always is to not need to supplement. But if you need something this is a better option than pharmaceuticals.

Ultimately it is up to you. I know that I have been prescribed or given things by many docs that were "safe" and I still chose not to take. After dd was born I asked for meds because I was in bad shape. This was a better path *for me.*

I used designs for health brand almost exclusively. Thre were a couple others....pharmax, as well as pure encapsulations. I order all my supplements through Emerson Ecologics. I felt most comfortable with their quality control.
post #537 of 650
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Originally Posted by firefaery View Post
They are all natural substances found in the body.
I used designs for health brand almost exclusively. Thre were a couple others....pharmax, as well as pure encapsulations. I order all my supplements through Emerson Ecologics. I felt most comfortable with their quality control.
yes, they're naturally occurring in our bodies -
but what is the source for the caps?
i'm looking into SAMe, as well as thinking about inositol, and am wondering where the caps are coming from...
has anyone researched this?
post #538 of 650
So today I've been really tired...anyone go thru a tired stage? Seems like every other day I feel really tired and have to force myself to do anything. Otherwise I feel good. Still some anger issues...altho I can see it and try to be more patient.
I still feel like I need to address my hormones, but not sure how to go about that...I could probably get some labwork done. Has anybody done this independently without a doc? Just curious...
post #539 of 650
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I believe you can still test hormones through metametrix. And yes, as you repair it is very normal to have tired stages!
post #540 of 650
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Originally Posted by riverundine View Post
yes, they're naturally occurring in our bodies -
but what is the source for the caps?
i'm looking into SAMe, as well as thinking about inositol, and am wondering where the caps are coming from...
has anyone researched this?
Yes, and hte answer is different for different brands which is why you should always know your source,
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